Treble Kings
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Rangers have lost to sides in Europe which, as a result, should've seen players sold on because they weren't doing the job they for which they were brought here.
I think when it comes to keepers it is mainly down to box ticking. Usually the best keepers tick most boxes. In layman’s terms, McGregor’s shot stopping can be world class, but he does lack in other areas, such as distribution and command of his box.World class gets bandied about a lot on here. Very few world class goalies in the world at any given time. Sadly I don't think McGregor has ever been in conversation.
Stack him up against his peers past and present, during his career and he's not in that conversation imo. If he was why didn't he play for a top side in England, Germany, Italy or Spain? He had the opportunity to when he left Rangers in 2012. He went to Turkey and then after that ended up at Hull.
An excellent keeper, but World Class? Nah, not for me.
Yeah, I’d be on board with that.I think when it comes to keepers it is mainly down to box ticking. Usually the best keepers tick most boxes. In layman’s terms, McGregor’s shot stopping can be world class, but he does lack in other areas, such as distribution and command of his box.
I don't know if controversial covers it but people like you are in a minority and most normal people don't view Rangers in that way.I despise people that try to distance the Club from its traditional and spiritual support. The Club is, and always will be, a Protestant, Unionist, Scottish Institution.
Graeme Murty deserves a bit more respect than what he gets for stepping up twice when required.
who ... Laudrup and Boli??Rangers have lost to sides in Europe which, as a result, should've seen players sold on because they weren't doing the job they for which they were brought here.
.. that moment you realise your talking to a Rangers Da' !!I don't know if controversial covers it but people like you are in a minority and most normal people don't view Rangers in that way.
Rangers will win a European trophy in my lifetime.
So far, you are 0 for 2 on this thread.I don't think Gazza genuinely gives a f#ck about his time at Ibrox. He lays it on thick due to the monetary value the Legends circuit generates.
Time to do what? Bring in even more dross that he had already? The fact that he chose not to come and watch games whilst McLeish was still in charge was a massive own goal. He could have picked up the likes of Thomson & Brown for the money spent on the likes of Clement & Sionko. And as for Sebo......Agreed. PLG should have been given time, bit it's a result based business.
I don't know if controversial covers it but people like you are in a minority and most normal people don't view Rangers in that way.
Ye canny say that they’re no good enough to play in Europe, Bolis got a European Cup winners medal for %^*& sakes.who ... Laudrup and Boli??
After the Queen passes, no photo of Charles in the dressing room.
look take it easy on me..... I asked the chairman some question last wee annol... dunno how well the went down?Ye canny say that they’re no good enough to play in Europe, Bolis got a European Cup winners medal for %^*& sakes.
Don’t think there would be anyway.
Really? So, with all due respect to them, and I loved these guys, players like Laudrup, Gazza, Boli, and the Italians, etc brought in to hammer St Mirren, Falkirk, Morton and Raith Rovers,?So far, you are 0 for 2 on this thread.
its almost as if 9 in a row happened all by itselfReally? So, with all due respect to them, and I loved these guys, players like Laudrup, Gazza, Boli, and the Italians, etc brought in to hammer St Mirren, Falkirk, Morton and Raith Rovers,?
Aw, Jesus F#ck, we had the money and players to do both. One didn't have to be at the expense of the other, ffs. I expected players of that calibre to be, at the very, very least, capable of giving Grasshopper, Strasbourg and Steau Bucharest a decent game while we were dominating at home for God's Sake...its almost as if 9 in a row happened all by itself
I used to be pro-monarch.
Over time my enthusiasm has dropped off and I’m now at the stage where I am completely indifferent. I wouldn’t mind this picture of the Queen being the last member of the Royal Family to hang in the Ibrox dressing room.
Support for the monarchy is a weird one. I'm amazed we still have a monarchy, well in the manner that we do. It just seems so antiquated and of touch with the modern world.
I generally don't despise them, well not all of them anyway, I'm like you indifferent and I agree. We shouldn't hang a photo of the new King. It's not a long standing tradition, as far as I'm aware anyway.
I’d agree if it wasn’t for that handstand shit he pulled.Graeme Murty deserves a bit more respect than what he gets for stepping up twice when required.
cant have it both ways though you were not saying they were brought in for both you said they were brought in for Europe.Aw, Jesus F#ck, we had the money and players to do both. One didn't have to be at the expense of the other, ffs. I expected players of that calibre to be, at the very, very least, capable of giving Grasshopper, Strasbourg and Steau Bucharest a decent game while we were dominating at home for God's Sake...
A team built with Europe in mind should have won at home as a matter of course.cant have it both ways though you were not saying they were brought in for both you said they were brought in for Europe.
If you subscribe to the theory that they were only brought in for europe you have a point....but they werent. Like I said 9 in a row didnt happen by itself. They were brought in for both, succeeded in one, "failed" at the other.Where they failed almost every season.
I'm 46 and that is pretty much my memory of ferguson as well he had a good first couple of seasons with rangers then after that there were more indifferent performances than anything and he did become a target of the boo boys .That is just not true.. Are you 15?
Those players weren't brought solely for domestic success. They were expensively hired to make their mark in Europe at the same time.If you subscribe to the theory that they were only brought in for europe you have a point....but they werent. Like I said 9 in a row didnt happen by itself. They were brought in for both, succeeded in one, "failed" at the other.
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they werent brought soley for european success either they were brought in for both.Those players weren't brought solely for domestic success. They were expensively hired to make their mark in Europe at the same time.
I have never heard a single rangers fan say that if we kept Le Guen, 2012 wouldnt have happened.Supporters today, 15 years later, that like to say we should have persevered with Paul Le Guen don't genuinely mean it. They're just trying to be edgy, and want to be seen as knowledgeable. It's as if they want the rest to say that if we'd followed his 'blueprint', if he even had one, we'd have avoided 2012 and it's aftermath.
You're now just repeating what I've said ya walloper....they werent brought soley for european success either they were brought in for both.
were they successful domestically? If anything they were brought in more for the league than europe. No league..... no europe FACT. Therefore they were brought in to win the league to allow us to play in europe.
naw you said they were brought in solely for europe.You're now just repeating what I've said ya walloper....
No, but the Le Guen apologists would love it if someone did. It would vindicate and legitimise Le Guen.I have never heard a single rangers fan say that if we kept Le Guen, 2012 wouldnt have happened.
I said they weren't brought in solely for domestic success which means they were brought in for both... Jesus F#ck....naw you said they were brought in solely for europe.
They were brought in for both with the league being a priority .... as it always is.
I think you know they are not supposed to do that.Singing songs about the Pope & Bobby Sands doesn’t do anything to motivate the players on the pitch.
"Rangers have lost to sides in Europe which, as a result, should've seen players sold on because they weren't doing the job they for which they were brought here." .................... this was your words.I said they weren't brought in solely for domestic success which means they were brought in for both... Jesus F#ck....
No, it's not utter pish.Utter pish. Religion and politics have absolutely %^*& all to do with football. If you want to have those elements mentioned in historical conversations about the club, fair enough but that's as far it goes.
"it's 2021"If we didn't hear any of those songs again I'd be happy. No place in football and it's 2021 ffs.
so you have just made a scenario up entirely in your head.No, but the Le Guen apologists would love it if someone did. It would vindicate and legitimise Le Guen.
yup a better argument would be that the club dont want to hear any of those songs sung at the club."it's 2021"
Great argument. Not.
Supporters today, 15 years later, that like to say we should have persevered with Paul Le Guen don't genuinely mean it. They're just trying to be edgy, and want to be seen as knowledgeable. It's as if they want the rest to say that if we'd followed his 'blueprint', if he even had one, we'd have avoided 2012 and it's aftermath.
So Le Guen apologists don't exist? In their alternate reality he would've led us to glory so there's be no need for Smith to come back and spend what we didn't have.so you have just made a scenario up entirely in your head.
I hate it when people make things up and then say they hate when those made up things happened.
I disagree. The behaviour of a large number of our fans (although admittedly a small percentage overall) on matchdays is a disgrace. I realize it's a minority but entire groups are often defined by the actions of a minority. Most environmentally conscious types aren't letting down tyres - the small amount that did reflect poorly on them as a whole. I'm sure there are dozens of other examples but I don't want to start getting into whether or not it should be merited, I feel like it is. My controversial opinion, although it really shouldn't be, is that too many of our fans have going to a game as a filler activity in their all day drinking sessions. Whether or not it's true or just my opinion, drinking Buckfast at 2pm on a Saturday afternoon - or even earlier on a Sunday - because you need or want to indicates that there's something a bit stunted in your behaviours. I lived in Edinburgh and the number of absolute morons you'd encounter giving you abuse or acting like drunken bams (on both sides of the Old Firm) reflects on the entire Rangers support.This is more a general point than a Rangers specific one although it has surfaced a few times recently - I don't really have a problem with videos being uploaded of people acting like idiots or arseholes. It's never representative of the Rangers support as a whole, and anyone who would use the behaviour of a minority of twats to generalise about every Rangers fan or justify their dislike of us is a bigot themselves and their opinions are not worth considering. If you weren't involved you have nothing to apologise for and don't owe anyone an explanation for someone else's behaviour. Beyond that I have no issue with people behaving that way (eg the imbeciles singing about Kyogo on the bus) being exposed for what they are and punished accordingly.