LetsGo
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Next you'll be telling us it's a coincidence you're named after one of their podcasts/blog sites. :shh:Crackpot
And I'm the crackpot?
Next you'll be telling us it's a coincidence you're named after one of their podcasts/blog sites. :shh:Crackpot
Yeah, exactly, but earlier you were saying hostility.We’ll agree to disagree then
In various chats I’m in with RSC / mates etc there’s very much a feeling of frustration and annoyance with the current board
For how long to we keep saying thanks? To me you can thank them for their efforts and what they did but now want us to move on. The teams that spend most normally win right now our rivals are outspending us. Who would replace them? I've no idea but the notion that it's Park & Co or Ashley and the Easdales is not a reasonable view IMO. The time to spend was immediately after the #55 success. Now we are back on catch up IMO.Whilst a lot of people aren't happy with how the club is run or certain areas of it just remember be careful what you wish for.
Currently I feel the best interests of the club are being handled whilst we are slowly improving areas of the stadium, training centre and backroom staff.
King did his bit but walked away from the club along with his going concern guarantee when covid in SA spooked him.Whether it’s general unrest from the lack of transfer activity or a genuine observation I can’t help but feel that a large section of the support is becoming more and more distrusting of this board.
The 150th celebrations weren’t handled well at all followed by the Australian debacle. Then we’ve had the last 3 transfer windows. I get that this one isn’t finished yet, so it shouldn’t count but you’d have expected some money spent and players in the door by now. Considering the qualifiers. (The 3 since DK left?)
So, why the sudden uptake in bad boardroom decisions and activity? For me it looks like there’s a correlation between the decline of our off-field ability and Dave King leaving.
I just wanted to know what the general opinion is on this and why it’s not really talked about that much? Douglas Park hasn’t delivered anything of note since taking over other than perhaps a noticeable tightening of the purse strings.
I’ll await the “hello Mr King” first reply but to be honest it’s not really a formed opinion just something I’ve been thinking about and would like some more insight on.
It specifically states that it is one v the other. Do you know what the technicality is that would make that the case were it not one v the other, and far more importantly, do you know what the case is about, going in front of the court of session?It’s legal technicality that Rangers are mentioned.
Eh?Next you'll be telling us it's a coincidence you're named after one of their podcasts/blog sites. :shh:
And I'm the crackpot?
For how long to we keep suffering your insights?For how long to we keep saying thanks? To me you can thank them for their efforts and what they did but now want us to move on. The teams that spend most normally win right now our rivals are outspending us. Who would replace them? I've no idea but the notion that it's Park & Co or Ashley and the Easdales is not a reasonable view IMO. The time to spend was immediately after the #55 success. Now we are back on catch up IMO.
The £40m you quote was in no way guaranteed. We could have spent £30m last summer and not qualified.
Gerrard was always going to return home. When his wife moved back to Liverpool it was always limiting his time with us.
This board handled the manager change very well and are managing the club in a sustainable way. That is key. Douglas Park has the long term interests of the club at heart and is a safe custodian.
We will strengthen in the right and affordable way.
A couple of decent permanent signings would have made a big difference i am not asking to spend 20So lets go out and spend money getting top players in to try and qualify for the cl.
We don't qualify then what? It's ok, I know the answer, we end up on the slippery slope again to where we were before.
If that's the gamble you want to take with the club, fine. I put the club before glory, but that's maybe just me and I have the wrong thinking.
1-0 up with 45 minutes to go against 10 men was not a good enough platform for that?I am making the point he won’t push the boat out.
The lack of investment has cost us in the region of 40 million already and gave them a free run this year as well .
Rightly or wrongly we should have strengthened properly in the Summer and January.
Obviously not when we got put out or am I missing something?1-0 up with 45 minutes to go against 10 men was not a good enough platform for that?
We had enough that night. I'm providing a tenuous argument here, but it's those small margins between success and failure that should matter here, and this is valid in judging this board.Obviously not when we got put out or am I missing something?
Another Striker and we may well have been Europa League winners as well.
Still not a guarantee. It's not as if we haven't been knocked out of Europe before by a swedish club, after throwing money about.A couple of decent permanent signings would have made a big difference i am not asking to spend 20
Million.
We were screaming for a RW and another Striker.
We have hardly invested in 2 seasons a couple of decent players would have made those small margins bigger in our favour.We had enough that night. I'm providing a tenuous argument here, but it's those small margins between success and failure that should matter here, and this is valid in judging this board.
Celtic always had more money than us, they had 10 years on us when it came to making money.For how long to we keep saying thanks? To me you can thank them for their efforts and what they did but now want us to move on. The teams that spend most normally win right now our rivals are outspending us. Who would replace them? I've no idea but the notion that it's Park & Co or Ashley and the Easdales is not a reasonable view IMO. The time to spend was immediately after the #55 success. Now we are back on catch up IMO.
A bit more decent investment and we would have been starting our second season running in the Champions League and Financially ahead of the beasts.Still not a guarantee. It's not as if we haven't been knocked out of Europe before by a swedish club, after throwing money about.
I look back at the last true battle of britain as Rangers v Leeds in the first CL. Both these clubs then went onto chase the money of the cl and both went down a bad road. In fact, I'd say both are still recovering from those reckless days.
It's an interesting point you make, because the irony is that the closer you get to the CL the more pressure is put on a club to secure it, and secure something achievable there, which means spending. So, whilst that particular match thirty years ago wasn't the author of our later problems, there is a principle there that still stands. We have to manage our finances, that is a fact, and going all out for the CL may stretch us more than possible.Still not a guarantee. It's not as if we haven't been knocked out of Europe before by a swedish club, after throwing money about.
I look back at the last true battle of britain as Rangers v Leeds in the first CL. Both these clubs then went onto chase the money of the cl and both went down a bad road. In fact, I'd say both are still recovering from those reckless days.
We have invested over a clearly visible period, on and off the park.We have hardly invested in 2 seasons a couple of decent players would have made those small margins bigger in our favour.
A bit more decent investment and we would have been starting our second season running in the Champions League and Financially ahead of the beasts.
So take a gamble with the clubs finances and what if we still got knocked out?A bit more decent investment and we would have been starting our second season running in the Champions League and Financially ahead of the beasts.
Not spent a penny hardly in over 2 years so i wouldn’t say so .We have invested over a clearly visible period, on and off the park.
Wouldn’t have been a massive gamble and we would more or likely have been at least 40 million better off.So take a gamble with the clubs finances and what if we still got knocked out?
That's fine, you want to gamble with the clubs finances. Not for me.Wouldn’t have been a massive gamble and we would more or likely have been at least 40 million better off.
I remember the Summer we invested in Boli and Laudrup before the qualifiers. Still got humped by AEK Athens. Guarantees nothing. Would have been a gamble with money we didn’t have.Wouldn’t have been a massive gamble and we would more or likely have been at least 40 million better off.
But it would have been. We have a very rare situation for a club this size, with domestic and European playing fields so asymmetric to one another. We don't have the domestic safeguards that many other clubs do, financially; the rewards for domestic success pale into insignificance compared to what is on offer in Europe; the ratio must be enormous. We don't have a net for failure that we can land on, if we fail.Wouldn’t have been a massive gamble and we would more or likely have been at least 40 million better off.
For how long to we keep saying thanks? To me you can thank them for their efforts and what they did but now want us to move on. The teams that spend most normally win right now our rivals are outspending us. Who would replace them? I've no idea but the notion that it's Park & Co or Ashley and the Easdales is not a reasonable view IMO. The time to spend was immediately after the #55 success. Now we are back on catch up IMO.
"hello Mr King"
I tWhat players do you think we should have sold and when?
Would you have been happy in the build to the 55 season if we’d offloaded players thus jeopardising our title chances?
Or did you want players sold this time last season ahead of the CL qualifiers?
its not about wanting players sold. I’ve never wanted Rangers to sell an important player or player I’ve liked; from Gio to Boumsong to Cuellar. It’s about needing to sell players at that peak moment. It HAS to happen and it should’ve happened last summer. And it should be happening now. Or earlier than now to generate funds and refresh a stagnating squad and these “poor” windows we discuss that never properly impact the starting 11 quality.What players do you think we should have sold and when?
Would you have been happy in the build to the 55 season if we’d offloaded players thus jeopardising our title chances?
Or did you want players sold this time last season ahead of the CL qualifiers?
I don’t claim anything mate but I’m not going to post personal details on a forum. You seem to have a problem very odd.For how long to we keep suffering your insights?
(& for anyone thinking that's a bit harsh, this is the same poster who claims to be a former director of a leading UK Financial Institution).
Everyone is entitled to an opinion mate some share yours some share mine. Not every club in the EPL has questionable ownership.If you’re not willing to accept our history then take a look at ownership of English clubs. That should be enough to illustrate our current good fortune.
The transfer window doesn’t close for a long time so no need to panic, if there was a week to go then yes but clubs have barely been back from holidays for a week and many clubs over Europe as still on the beach.Whether it’s general unrest from the lack of transfer activity or a genuine observation I can’t help but feel that a large section of the support is becoming more and more distrusting of this board.
The 150th celebrations weren’t handled well at all followed by the Australian debacle. Then we’ve had the last 3 transfer windows. I get that this one isn’t finished yet, so it shouldn’t count but you’d have expected some money spent and players in the door by now. Considering the qualifiers. (The 3 since DK left?)
So, why the sudden uptake in bad boardroom decisions and activity? For me it looks like there’s a correlation between the decline of our off-field ability and Dave King leaving.
I just wanted to know what the general opinion is on this and why it’s not really talked about that much? Douglas Park hasn’t delivered anything of note since taking over other than perhaps a noticeable tightening of the purse strings.
I’ll await the “hello Mr King” first reply but to be honest it’s not really a formed opinion just something I’ve been thinking about and would like some more insight on.
This, 100 times over.People are blaming the board but really they just aren't happy with reality
This is the level we are at and this is the amount of money we have.
Don't want to sell stadium rights, don't want to maximise commercial income, don't want to profit on the old firm tag blah blah blah. Then we don't have money for £10m transfer kitty's
That tight sod has only invested a miserable £17m of his own cashHeard that as well.
I am only interested in who can do a job for us whether it be investing or running it correctly.That tight sod has only invested a miserable £17m of his own cash
bring back DK after he gets his cash back
some seriously idiotic posts on here from DK’s fan boys
Get to bed and give us peace , what a load of garbageI don't really know what you expected from this post @Kit_Bear
There are some on here that would let our board go in and pump their wives stupid, then have a fry up ready for them waking up in the morning . They'd then offer to pay their taxi fares home.
If you've come here looking for people to be objective in this king Vs board members scenario then you've come to the wrong place
I take it you mean someone like the Saudis?I am only interested in who can do a job for us whether it be investing or running it correctly.
Likely we are looking for someone that puts £17 million in and doesnt want shares or interest on the loan.
More shares means dilution for Club1872.
An institution maybe not financial thoughFor how long to we keep suffering your insights?
(& for anyone thinking that's a bit harsh, this is the same poster who claims to be a former director of a leading UK Financial Institution).
Yes I was sick of his constant rambling in the mhediaand as you say at a very critical time of the season.Dave King showed how much he values money over Rangers in the league run in as usual he could not keep himself out the papers at a crucial time for the club.
Worse again was running to a very anti-Rangers rag too.Yes I was sick of his constant rambling in the mhediaand as you say at a very critical time of the season.
HThis is what we know and there must be plenty of other things.
Edmiston House - shambles , what contract stops because of finance .
Embarrassing.
The memorial garden - sued for million.
Total mismanagement.
Australia
300k for a roof report from engineers- the contractor that did the works would have did it for nothing.
Mismanagement
Cheers for proving my pointGet to bed and give us peace , what a load of garbage
Both King and Park have been fantastic for the club and we owe both of them enormous gratitude.I'd have King - or someone like him - back tomorrow.
He's not perfect, but he is a big, big miss.
See that would explain it. It could be Park is just more sensible with money and has a more difficult situation to navigate because of the hand dealt after King left. I thought we could have a conversation about it but clearly FF can’t handle anything that remotely resembles a criticism.
And FalkirkI remember the Summer we invested in Boli and Laudrup before the qualifiers. Still got humped by AEK Athens. Guarantees nothing. Would have been a gamble with money we didn’t have.
Douglas Park has put in millions to the Club as Dave King has already confirmed.We had a 23million loss last season plus there are UEFA rules about spending compared to turnover/profitability.These are the reasons for lack of spending and nothing to do with you're comment.Dougie park is as tight as two coats of paint I am not surprised we aren’t spending.