Surely the game to now play him is Saturday, Borna's worst performance this season, although i do get that he has been consistent. I Think it's the perfect chance to freshen it up and give Yilmaz the time he needs to prove himself.
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ChildOfGoth
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Never put a foot wrong lastnight so deserves his chance
TerrySilverLoyal
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Think you will possibly see him Dundee in cup
Valley Bluenose
RTV? Completed it mate!
It wasn't Borna's worst performance of the season, given what he was up against. We might see Yilmaz at the weekend, but I doubt it. Against Dundee in the Cup is when I expect to see him.
devilman
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He needs to be given a go regardless. We need to see what we've got on our hands for the money parted with. Borna has been pretty good this season but had a poor game last night and it's a good opportunity to give Yilmaz a run out.
Question is, whether Gio will bother. He doesn't seem to base his team selection on anything other than he wants them to play.
Question is, whether Gio will bother. He doesn't seem to base his team selection on anything other than he wants them to play.
RotterdamBear
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Can’t wait to see this guy
Borna is the most negative full back I’ve ever seen
Borna is the most negative full back I’ve ever seen
Tino_Col
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It is ludicrous. A huge chunk of our budget on a player that the manager has no intention of playing. We've been 4-0 up a few times and he's still not featured.
Of course, we'll still have people on here claim Barisic is playing so exceptional that it is simply not possible for Yilmaz to feature at any point, even when we are coasting games.
It's about as clear a sign as you can get of our dysfunctional transfer dealings.
Of course, we'll still have people on here claim Barisic is playing so exceptional that it is simply not possible for Yilmaz to feature at any point, even when we are coasting games.
It's about as clear a sign as you can get of our dysfunctional transfer dealings.
This would frustrate me greatly as we need to see him when we have the bulk of out better players on the pitch too. Throwing him in with a load of changes makes it harder for him IMO.
Sensible Head
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Who will replace tav as it was his worse
Who will replace Kent, Davis, tilman let's round on borna
No getting away that Tilman was hopeless, Tav wont be replaced. Davis, easy replaced we have options. Kent once again the scape goat, only player that looked like creating anything.
dublinbear
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Fresh legs on Sat.
Yilmaz, Sands, Matondo, Sakala & Colak all to start for me.
Yilmaz, Sands, Matondo, Sakala & Colak all to start for me.
TerrySilverLoyal
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Arfield will come in I think
Sensible Head
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Also
Lundstrum was awful last night why doesnt he get the abuse isit because he has a catchy song
The Busby Bear
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I’d change the left side completely with Ridvan and Matondo replacing Borna and Kent. I don’t rate Matondo but he actually looked decent when he came on last night and Kent needs a boot up the arse. With Yilmaz, to spend the amount of money we have on a player that doesn’t appear to get a look in is baffling.
Sensible Head
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Mate I'm a big Kent supporter but he is a shadow of himself and needs took out the team
Valley Bluenose
RTV? Completed it mate!
Borna always shows his opponent inside. Always has done and probably always will. It wasn't peculiar to Salah. As recently as last weekend we saw him do it against Humphreys every time. Can only assume it's a tactical thing. It goes right back to when Gerrard signed him and hasn't changed.
Same manager, coaches and tactics.
wsb&warmy
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Worst player on the park by a country mile and that's saying something. You could tell by the look on his face he knew it too.
Anyone having a go at certain players, but missing out JL, must either have a blind spot when it comes to him, or an agenda against others.
FollowNearAndFar
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Someone posted on twitter 'Borna defends like every winger has a knife'
And now I can't unsee it.
And now I can't unsee it.
Never mind Yilmaz replacing Barisic, he cam replace Kent.
Crouchy
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As infuriating as that is, it’s his inability to go to a man until they’re in the box that kills me slowly.
Showing Salah inside is madness.
Stuart_WATP
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If he doesn't start at the weekend I think the question needs put to Gio if he was even his signing at all.
After PSV away a very hard slog, we were at home to Ross county and he still stuck Barisic in again even though Ridvan was there which I found baffling as we knew we were winning that game anyway. We'll see.
After PSV away a very hard slog, we were at home to Ross county and he still stuck Barisic in again even though Ridvan was there which I found baffling as we knew we were winning that game anyway. We'll see.
rupertdabear
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Here we go again.quick guys ,jump on the Borna slagging train .FFS give it a rest .
Borna ,like the rest of the defensive line had a tough night against one of the top premier clubs ,mainly due to our midfields inability to hold the ball for more than 2 passes and a front line that was powder puff until the changes came late on.
The golf in class of the players is all down to money which our league just doesn't provide access to .
Their passing ,movement and confidence on the ball had us flapping in the wind for 70 mins .
In Sala ,Borna was up against one of the worlds top wingers,add in AA on the lap and i'm sure you'll get the drift .
To point the finger at him when he did ok defensively and obviously couldn't get forward until the changes came is a bit rich,considering our worst defender by a mile was Tav who couldn't pass his water atm and has been like that all season .
Now get the heads out the clouds and face reality .
Borna ,like the rest of the defensive line had a tough night against one of the top premier clubs ,mainly due to our midfields inability to hold the ball for more than 2 passes and a front line that was powder puff until the changes came late on.
The golf in class of the players is all down to money which our league just doesn't provide access to .
Their passing ,movement and confidence on the ball had us flapping in the wind for 70 mins .
In Sala ,Borna was up against one of the worlds top wingers,add in AA on the lap and i'm sure you'll get the drift .
To point the finger at him when he did ok defensively and obviously couldn't get forward until the changes came is a bit rich,considering our worst defender by a mile was Tav who couldn't pass his water atm and has been like that all season .
Now get the heads out the clouds and face reality .
Don't post sensible words on here.
We need a whipping boy, I missed the days Pistol Pete was hammered on here every day.
Louch
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My only concern re starting a lot of different players Saturday is Celtic did that vs st mirren has it cost them. If changing players it can’t be whole of left defence etc. need to keep a bit of consistency and really use the 5 subs early to get a lotta time in legs coming on
Playing in a back 5 for the first time this season would have been a strange set up for everyone.
Epsom Royal
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Borna Backastep was never near Salah last night, dont know if he was told to tuck in, but Salah had lots of room every time he got the ball.
I would love to know how many metres Borna runs backwards in a game.
I would love to know how many metres Borna runs backwards in a game.
barrheadbear
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This what frustrates me with how some see him. Firstly he did put multple feet wrong, but he rarely puts a foot wrong on the ball because he passes backwards all the time. He takes the easy way out. But puts pressure on his teammates
Defensively he was a mess
Theresa May
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I remember watching Barisic for Osijek against us and then in his first couple of games as a Rangers player (Fir Park was one, if I remember correctly) and thinking - jeez, this guy knows nothing other than bombing forward and whipping early balls into the box.
The there's the 2022 Barisic. Slow, weak, refuses to go forward, safe option every time he has possession.
Boab4
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Don’t worry, Gio will have Yilmaz just as negative too.
Agreed
Can see it now, he'll be loaned back to Besiktas in January, then sold back to them in the summer for an undisclosed fee.
Jorgthegreat
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If he doesn't play soon then whoever signed him should be sacked as it's a chronic waste of money
Boab4
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Nonsense
dt17
The Jay Cartwright of FF
I was critical of Barisic as he's turned in too many cowardly performances in his spell with us, but since Yilmaz came in he improved a bit again.
In saying that, he's just too negative as a full back now. He doesn't have the pace to get forward, can't beat a man and his defending one on one gives me the fear. He retreats about 30 yards and gives the right winger as much space as he wants.
In saying that, he's just too negative as a full back now. He doesn't have the pace to get forward, can't beat a man and his defending one on one gives me the fear. He retreats about 30 yards and gives the right winger as much space as he wants.
No, Jan Bartram , he wouldnt even kick anyone.
I cannot agree with that at all, Barisic most certainly was not ok, Liverpool are obviously a great team but he is nowhere near aggressive enough, never gets close to his man and more often than not turns his back and allows the cross to come in, when given the chance to get forward he almost always cuts back and passes the buck.
