Blootoonboy
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What happened to the feasibility study of adding 6,000 seats or so? Has that been forgotten about?
Rangers Board Sign Off Ibrox Redevelopment to Boost Disabled Facilities
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Snoopproddiedogg
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They should let people know before the auto mygers subscription roll out in case people decide against moving.
Scrap that they won't know where to move you until next season's renewals have been finished
Scrap that they won't know where to move you until next season's renewals have been finished
TW14
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Dont think I showed any particular distaste for it? It doesnt effect me at all.
karen's day
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im also in row x with my 2 daughters and my mate . 14 of us moved after withholding because of the spivs . i counted the seats in the last 3 rows ( y z aa ) on a seating plan and the number came to 507 The board showed that 549 seats would be moved , so i am unsure of how much of row x (if any) would be affected
Interesting, looks like 4 rows of seating being left at the back. Assume the first row of those will be for companions
Blendz Bears
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But it's not club are making the capacity bigger when adding the rows onto broomloan and Copland
TW14
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I’ll defer to your greater knowledge
So the plans were only signed off this morning then? If the plans were approved any time before today and not made public, then they’ve been held back specifically to have a ‘good news story’ at the AGM.
Only if they get the finance, which isn’t guaranteed.
Any major works cos a fortune these days.
Presumably it wasn’t feasible?
£6m
probably better not saying, some people would take it the wrong way.
not that i really need to say why i’m furious tho
TheHammerJorgAlbertz11
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That was lowering the pitch was it not?
If they are struggling to find the funding for the Copland and Broomloan extensions then I doubt we will see it soon.
It should be a priority imo as closing the staduim gap that Murray let happen between them and us is the one thing that would worry them imo.
It puts us at an disadvantage each season.
The People
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Cheers FB
Someone mentioned earlier on the thread £1 million but I did think that was on the low side .
So we would be into,the double digits in millions for the Copland and Broomloan works going on your £6 million figure it
I think it was last night before they settled on that particular (imho the best) option actually but hey not everyone likes the truth.
Blootoonboy
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Absolutely, especially in Europe and ST sales. We'll probably never see the corners filled in or the likes, shame really but the costs are just too high.
Bluebeard
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Between £3/4 million.
To do the broomloan and Copland I’m hazarding a guess at around £7 million.
Could we sell stadium naming rights to fund it perhaps? Will always be Ibrox to us anyway. Phone a few companies and see what they offer.
Lanark Bear in the NE
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I would suggest that you go back and read your original comment.
If your don’t think you showed any distaste, then your either thick or stupid ?
Tap in
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No Costings. No time frame No funding in place. Board have spent 3 million on skylounge opening soon. 2 million in wheelchair access starting I would imagine this summer for next season. So 5 million to make an existing ground smaller. Genuinely 1st time I've ever heard in football a club spending millions to make a stadium smaller capacity.
The Broomloan and Copland have nothing in place to say they'll happen at all as yet. Robertson was talking about 6k on to capacity whilst in Australia before Covid. Nothing ever came of that. More I think of it the more that extra bit on to today's presentation was to stop people saying, you're cutting capacity by 1k? WTAF are you lot thinking?
Nah you don’t NEED to say, but if you’re going to come onto a forum and state that you’re furious with no follow up then it’s fair to assume someone would ask.
I presume it’s because you’re possibly being asked/made to move seats, which is fair enough, but you’ve drawn the short straw in that they’ve picked your area of the stadium to develop as the new accessible area.
To my original point, what a coincidence that the plans finally come together 12 HOURS before the AGM, what a stroke of luck that was for them, or what other good news would they have had to share in front of 2k angry fans today?
Most clubs with stadiums pre dating 2000 have had to do the same.
When I did the Old Trafford tour a few years ago, the guide explained how they’d lost 1500 or so seats making their accessible section and putting enhanced TV studios in.
Just because we’ll have a smaller capacity doesn’t mean less £££. The BSL will be more lucrative than Argyle House was. 100 premium hospitality seats generates x 10 the profit of 1k ordinary seats.
There’s been an inferiority complex about the stadium since Celtic went to 60k. It seems to really matter than we stay above 50k, when it might be more profitable to have more premium seats with a slightly less capacity.
TW14
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I suggested a move that I thought would have made sense, don’t see how that is distaste.
Tap in
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It's costing us 500k a season for as long as those seats aren't replaced. So we’re spending 5 million on 2 projects that see us lose 500k on current ST prices. You're polishing a turd here. If they go through with what was cleary add ons they threw in today. Fair enough. But I can see that not happening for a long time . If ever under current financial circumstances and the current board.
Hurricane Run
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I understand the premise, but surely ticket revenue generated is more significant than capacity?
Blue Sky Lounge season tickets are in the region of 6/7x as much as the average season ticket. So those 300 seats or whatever are equivalent to an additional 2000 seats (fag packet math). But you get the point.
We can actually give those with disabilities a proper 21st century matchday experience - and in theory still take more matchday revenue than before. Thats before the additional seating happens (if it does).
Personally i would have liked a long term strategy laid out, with a path to a bigger more modern stadium, with a significant capacity increase - but in the meantime, this isnt a terrible start.
No companion seats will be side by side with the wheelchairs, I think the first row behind will be the amenity seating gor the ambulant disabled. Some of the seats in the back rows will vanish to make way for the platform access. Assume the rest will remain with the current holders.
They clearly stated they will raise the funds for the cantilevers via the release of equities for cash.
They laid down their marker in exact the same manner as they did at last years AGM re providing the wheelchair facilities
Tap in
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We'll see. The financial landscape is bleak so why I have my doubts it will happen for foreseeable.
When Bar72 was constructed it was virtually paid for at the time by virtue of charging three years upfront 660 x £2700 = £1,782,000 minus the VAT.
Tap in
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If it does happen. Would they not look to do similar set up in Copland and Broomloan? Lot of dead space in back of each stand with unused office space.
Bluebeard
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Thats what I’m thinking mate.
Do the same with the broomie and Copland and we are laughing. I’d consider it myself.
Also we could allow the stadium to be sponsored by Pepsi or similar for a good whack per season. Surprised big Bisgrive hasn’t already been on the phone to companies
Greg Marshall
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It’s not a coincidence, the club set themselves a deadline of this AGM to outline the plans to improve disabled facilities for our supporters.
They have worked for months on the project and the final approval was made at yesterdays board meeting.
The club are just meeting a self imposed deadline following last years AGM.
What I would say on it, is that I am immensely pleased to see the hard work of @forlanssister and the Disability matters working group rewarded with the real progress they have worked for.
We will have other issues to ensure all fans are engaged and looked after in terms of how we manage the inevitable upheaval but we need to ensure that all our supports can feel welcome and valued in Ibrox.
Just watched the video from the AGM, if the model is accurate then I would not be affected in Row Y and would be able to stay where I am.
Greg Marshall
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The Copland and Broomloan office space is all ring fenced for club use. My office is now in the Copland for instance - we moved there 6 months ago with other departments moving in the near future.
Bluebeard
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So is there no chance of hospitality in either the broomie or Copland mate?
That’s disappointing and seems a wasted opportunity here
Your original point is 100% total bollox.
Kenny Senior
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I'll be honest and will probably take some flak for it but I wouldnt be going ahead with this until the funding is in place to add the other seats in and do the full thing right. Reducing the capacity by that amount seems counter productive.
Greg Marshall
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Not in the Copland or Broomloan house areas as they are both being used imo.
Manc Bear
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Everybody wants change but only if it doesn’t affect them
The issue of accessible seating has been on the table for years, and it needed addressed. Whatever the motives of announcing it at todays AGM when ‘good news’ is sorely lacking at the minute can be left open to interpretation.
The rest of your post is a bit of a party political broadcast so I’m not even going to touch that. That’s got nothing to do with my post.
My reply was specific to your comment that no other club had done it, when one of the biggest clubs in the world with an older stadium is a prime example.
I’m not polishing any turd. We’d all love a big all singing and dancing 70k stadium bringing in fortunes in revenue, but we have to do the best with what we’ve got. It’s a fact that you can make more £££ with less seats if they’re converted to high end hospitality, which is what we’re doing with the BSL. Like I say, more seats doesn’t be necessarily = more money.
Tap in
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We're still doing away with 500k a season at current prices no matter how you try and frame it.
TerrySilverLoyal
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Surprised at the office space not being up for hospitality.
Given the lack of options to increase and the fact hospitality seats are worth times X of your average one seat it’d be a sure fire way to have revenue increase. Coupled with the fact surely office space easier to find or locate than stadium increasing.
Or maybe I’m understating the importance of said office spaces I don’t know
Given the lack of options to increase and the fact hospitality seats are worth times X of your average one seat it’d be a sure fire way to have revenue increase. Coupled with the fact surely office space easier to find or locate than stadium increasing.
Or maybe I’m understating the importance of said office spaces I don’t know
Greg Marshall
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Yes it has. We have finally improved the financial position of the club to be able to look at some of these key issues and this board have started tackling it.
Even if were 15 points clear at the top of the league, the deadline for the disabled facilities to be announced was still today.
The mention of the work Billy and the DM group have made was a more general comment to the thread .
I’m not framing it any way mate, the club have plans to replace those seats, so why would they not see them through?
Ali59
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Also in GF4 row x, fourth row from the back . Not sure if below the possible cut off.
Last 3 rows will be about 600 seats in the Sandy Jardine stand.
Had two seats for over 35 years, those being moved should be advised as soon as possible.
Tap in
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As I have already said. No Costings. No funding. No dates. The club once told us they were building a casino. Robertson told Australian fans in 19 we were looking at plans to add 6k. I could go on with more Johnny Bullshit the club has come out with under various boards over years but you get the gist. The extra seats seemed very much we can't tell them we are doing away with 1 k on capacity and paying 2 million to do so.
Would have been nice if the board had fleshed out the information a little bit more around this and what rows would be impacted in each of the stands. Instead of us having to guess based on a video.
Also Row X. As you said it would be nice to know as soon as possible. In fact we should have been getting told today when this information was coming out but typical Rangers with the lack of information.
