The Hits and Misses of Ross Wilson's time at Rangers

[mdingwall]

 

[TerrySilverLoyal]

Jury’s out on Tom Lawrence.

In the same boat as Souttar and Matondo.

Ok

Sands a hit? Right then

 

[andy5836]

There's some amount of junk on that list and a terrible waste of our finances.

Hopefully Beale has a better eye for a player and gets the final say on transfers.

 

[Eck2104]

Bit harsh on Scott Wright imo, started both semi final legs and the final of the Europa League

 

[The Director]

Sands hit but Sakala a miss lol right you are

 

[The Director]

Don’t forget his Jack Simpson signing

 

[CaptainCourageous]

Bit harsh on Scott Wright imo, started both semi final legs and the final of the Europa League

Not really, he’s average at best. Never managed to hold down a regular place in the team and his end product is severely lacking.

 

[Walrus]

Bit harsh on Scott Wright imo, started both semi final legs and the final of the Europa League

Not through ability or performance he didn't up there with Broadfoot as how did that happen

 

[nelster]

Gavin Berry used to write for Rangers News

Edit. Not entirely sure why it says jury out given the text he actually wrote

 

[gu_bear]

Jury is still out on Tillman for me. Sands is a miss as is Roofe, purely based on his lack of availability versus what we paid for him.

 

[Euro Scooter]

My biggest takeaway from that list is that we are signing too many players.

We have to stop gambling on crocks and semi-crocks.

Tillman is in the balance for me. He is going to be a big hit somewhere in the next couple of years. I'm just not sure we can put the time and effort into it being with us. I really hope Beale can make something of him.

 

[Bigbluebear]

Don’t forget his Jack Simpson signing

Well documented at the time it was Gerrard who pushed for him.

 

[Blue boy]

Jury’s out on Tom Lawrence.

In the same boat as Souttar and Matondo.

Ok

Sands a hit? Right then

The jury is out on Lawrence, he was only in a month then injured.
All and all, shocking return from RW.
He may defend it at the AGM with the nonsense about Soutar, but he is and will continue to make mistakes.
I hope the board ear mark him to be sacked in the near future.

 

[Bigbluebear]

My biggest takeaway from that list is that we are signing too many players.

We have to stop gambling on crocks and semi-crocks.

Tillman is in the balance for me. He is going to be a big hit somewhere in the next couple of years. I'm just not sure we can put the time and effort into it being with us. I really hope Beale can make something of him.

We have to put the time and effort into developing players. We can't afford to sign the finished article.

 

[BombersBoots]

Souttar signing and his justification of it at the AGM without anything else should be a sacking offence.

 

[JMCK]

Bit harsh on Scott Wright imo, started both semi final legs and the final of the Europa League

And scored a very good goal in the SC Final.

 

[Ter]

Will be interesting to see if there is any change in some of the players under the new manager. Mainly looking at the likes of Matondo, Sands, Sakala and Tillman who could really kick on if the coaching team can get the best out of them and they are played where they are most effective and understand their role.

 

[Blue boy]

We have the biggest two transfer windows coming up that will define Beale and Wilson.
No compassion for crocks and old players or we will have major problems for years.
The following need to go, Helander, Jack, Davis, Morelos, Kent, Arfield, Mcgregor, Sands and Tillman.
Possibly either Barasic or Yilmaz as well.
Roofe and Mclauchlin have contracts for 18 months, no extensions and get rid of sooner if possible.
Wright - sell
Kamara? depends on his attitude.
I dont rate Lundstram .

 

[Donsky]

Can Bassey even be classified as a "hit" when Mick clearly stated in one of his interviews when taking the job at Rangers that he was identified during a bounce game?

 

[JMCK]

Too early to judge Ross Wilson, overall; it also has to said that for a great many, he seems to be nothing more than a glorified chief scout.

 

[Neild79]

JM a hit.
Sands a hit.
Lawrence jury's out.
Sakala a miss.
Wow, clearly haven't been watching any of our games.

 

[Neild79]

Can Bassey even be classified as a "hit" when Mick clearly stated in one of his interviews when taking the job at Rangers that he was identified during a bounce game?

Exactly, pretty sure SG identified Bassey.

 

[Sheik Ma Shammy]

Why are we blaming Ross Wilson his job is not to sign players said himself at the AGM

 

[The Director]

What is abundantly clear is Ross Wilson cannot handle criticism. What we saw on Tuesday was a man who felt appalled that the support had the temerity to question him. Was quite embarrassed for him actually with his demeanour

 

[Hallers]

Bit harsh on Scott Wright imo, started both semi final legs and the final of the Europa League

Homegrown & hopefully isn't on big wages. Only going to be a squad player. Hit imo.

 

[Bluenose25]

Jury is still out on Tillman for me. Sands is a miss as is Roofe, purely based on his lack of availability versus what we paid for him.

Roofe getting us through against Braga and his wonder goal against Standard Liege make him a hit for me. The club knew he was made of crisps when they bought him.

 

[GazzaLegend]

Lawrence definitely a hit, harsh on Sakala as well, he’s played his part, more than any other fringe players, I’d say he is a hit

 

[Arkanoid]

Don’t forget his Jack Simpson signing

He is good at getting them out the door though

 

[Viatrophy]

The layers we have actually spent mney on by and large have been succesful. The bosmans and loans are hit and miss, which is exactly what you would expect from that market.

 

[JMCK]

It's not easy to say great things about Scott Wright in the face of a lot of criticism he receives, but there definitely is potential for him to be a far better Rangers player than he has shown so far; it may be that he tries too hard to prove his worth, but when he doesn't seem to be doing that he can be good. He is very good in the ball when he wants to be, as his lay off for Kamara against Leipzig and his SC Final goal demonstrates.

 

[knightswood_bear]

Bit harsh on Scott Wright imo, started both semi final legs and the final of the Europa League

Agree, he has done largely fine and probably is what most would have expected when we signed him, especially when you consider what we paid for him.

I'd understand saying it was a miss if we had spent 7 figures on him.

 

[Amatosarrow]

I would have a lot more in the 'miss' and 'jury's out' verdicts. His greatest hit is Morelos and that one's on Jonathon Johansson.

 

[PT98]

Bit harsh on Scott Wright imo, started both semi final legs and the final of the Europa League

Probably due to injuries more than anything

Having said that at least he is reliable on the injury front, which is more than can be said for a lot of his teammates who'll be on higher wages.

 

[RFC_Champions]

So what it s it then…..

Is it Wilson’s players or is it Gerrard’s or Gio’s players?

 

[truebluesince82]

Out of 26 I very very fairly gave him 10 hits. Probably should be 8 but let hagi and roofe slide as they have played vital parts at times

Have been positive and gave him Davies and ridvan as I think personally they will come good

 

[a_weir]

Context: Not a Ross Wilson praise post.​

To be honest, it goes beyond 'was the signing a successful player for Rangers'... and should take into consideration both value and profit.

The question really is: Which of Ross Wilson's signings were good for the business?

My opinion:

​

Hits​	Misses​	50/50​	Too early to tell​
Hagi Bassey McLaughlin Defo Balogun Lundstram Bacuna* Colak Lawrence**​	Kamberi Itten Zungu Simpson Zukowski Ramsey Souttar​	Roofe** Diallo*** Sands Wright*** Sakala***​	Matondo Tillman Yilmaz Davies Oforboh​

* Shite player but made a profit?
** Only if they remain injury free (or injured at a normal rate)
*** Value for money signing. If high wages would be a miss, but could still move to Hit.

If Wilson is to be judged on first-team signings, should we also be judging him on academy players such as:

Charlie Lindsay
Tony Weston
Charlie McCann
Juan Alegria
Zak Lovelace

As well as considering transfers away from Rangers (transfers only, not contract expiry or loan returns):

Correct decision	Correct decision, poor deal	Wrong decision
Grezda Herrera Holt Polster Docherty McCrorie Edmundson Jones Patterson Bacuna Itten Hastie Bassey Middleton Simpson Katic​	Dire Mebude* Dapo Mebude* Barker**​	Aribo***​

* Should have got more money
** Was leaving on a free best?
*** Should have sold earlier to get a higher fee

Finally, contracts:

Good management	Bad management	Neither good nor bad
Patterson* Davis McGregor Tavernier Balogun Defoe Kamara McLaughlin Lowry Arfield​	Balogun** Goldson*** Aribo**** Kent**** Morelos****​	Firth​

* Got us a good fee
** Should have stayed
*** Took far too long to sort
**** Should have sold them earlier, for bigger profit

 

[ShieldhallBear]

Jury is still out on Tillman for me. Sands is a miss as is Roofe, purely based on his lack of availability versus what we paid for him.

Roofe was our top scorer in the 55 season, he single handedly dragged us to a good few wins with some very important goals when the league was still tight. He’s a hit for me as he was worth the money for that season alone. Probably a miss in the grand scheme of things though availability wise, taking that season away.

 

[Recoba]

The jury is out on Lawrence ?

Eff me what shit we need to listen to.

 

[Hap Hapablap]

Context: Not a Ross Wilson praise post.​

To be honest, it goes beyond 'was the signing a successful player for Rangers'... and should take into consideration both value and profit.

The question really is: Which of Ross Wilson's signings were good for the business?

My opinion:

​

Hits​	Misses​	50/50​	Too early to tell​
Hagi Bassey McLaughlin Defo Balogun Lundstram Bacuna* Colak Lawrence**​	Kamberi Itten Zungu Simpson Zukowski Ramsey Souttar​	Roofe** Diallo*** Sands Wright*** Sakala***​	Matondo Tillman Yilmaz Davies Oforboh​

* Shite player but made a profit?
** Only if they remain injury free (or injured at a normal rate)
*** Value for money signing. If high wages would be a miss, but could still move to Hit.

If Wilson is to be judged on first-team signings, should we also be judging him on academy players such as:

Charlie Lindsay
Tony Weston
Charlie McCann
Juan Alegria
Zak Lovelace

As well as considering transfers away from Rangers (transfers only, not contract expiry or loan returns):

Correct decision	Correct decision, poor deal	Wrong decision
Grezda Herrera Holt Polster Docherty McCrorie Edmundson Jones Patterson Bacuna Itten Hastie Bassey Middleton Simpson Katic​	Dire Mebude* Dapo Mebude* Barker**​	Aribo***​

* Should have got more money
** Was leaving on a free best?
*** Should have sold earlier to get a higher fee

Finally, contracts:

Good management	Bad management	Neither good nor bad
Patterson* Davis McGregor Tavernier Balogun Defoe Kamara McLaughlin Lowry Arfield​	Balogun** Goldson*** Aribo**** Kent**** Morelos****​	Firth​

* Got us a good fee
** Should have stayed
*** Took far too long to sort
**** Should have sold them earlier, for bigger profit

When exactly do you think we should have sold Aribo?

 

[smidbob]

I reckon Wright's not bad and is a net positive as a signing. He was cheap, he's stayed fit and he's consistently put the effort in, as well as filling in where needed when called upon. I think ultimately he has been a good signing for £150k. He's not a world beater and he's not an impressive player by our standards, but we need decent squad players and he's done that well

 

[Highway Star]

Don’t forget his Jack Simpson signing

Simpson was 100% Gerrard.

He pushed really hard for Simpson, just as he did with Bacuna.

 

[Bristol_bnose3]

So what it s it then…..

Is it Wilson’s players or is it Gerrard’s or Gio’s players?

Depends who we want sacked at the point of discussion.

 

[Craigie]

Don’t forget his Jack Simpson signing

Gerrard wanted him when he first arrived at the club. This was not one of Wilson's as he wasn't there at the first interest we had.

 

[Jim Prideaux]

Gerrard wanted him when he first arrived at the club. This was not one of Wilson's as he wasn't there at the first interest we had.

I don’t really like saying someone signed player X and someone signed player Y, as the recruitment team/manager work in tandem with each other.

You’ll see people use different players to support/criticise members of the recruitment team. So I don’t really think it’s fair in the main.

However, as you say Gerrard wanted Simpson when he first came in and alluded to as much himself when Simpson eventually signed.

 

[Drewso]

Bit harsh on Scott Wright imo, started both semi final legs and the final of the Europa League

He tries hard and I’ve tried to like him, as has my son, but too many indifferent performances. I hoped he would make it but is not Rangers class in my opinion

 

[TallBearCr]

Scott wright, miss, bit harsh, scores a goal to win the scottish cup, hardly cost a penny, played in the europa final, not the best player in the world but hardly wasted transfer.

 

[Craigie]

I don’t really like saying someone signed player X and someone signed player Y, as the recruitment team/manager work in tandem with each other.

You’ll see people use different players to support/criticise members of the recruitment team. So I don’t really think it’s fair in the main.

However, as you say Gerrard wanted Simpson when he first came in and alluded to as much himself when Simpson eventually signed.

I was just about to edit the post to say that transfers will be a collective effort but some are more a personal choice of one member than others.

 

[sonowilliam1]

Ross Wilson has already came out and said that he doesn't sign the players and that will do for me,the media are once again trying to storm trouble up.

The media or Ross Wilson?

Hmmm let me think.

 

[a_weir]

When exactly do you think we should have sold Aribo?

It comes down to timing and maximising profitability - hindsight is, of course, wonderful.

We sold Aribo for £6m, with 1 year left on his contract. I've no idea how much he was on, but pretending it was £20k a week, is about £1m a year in wages. Had he run down his contract and left for free (like it looks like Morelos and Kent might), I would argue that we would have not seen £1m worth of value from an extra year of Aribo.

So I find myself thinking, had we sold Aribo in the summer of 2021, after winning 55, would we have gotten more than £5m (his actual fee, less the £1m wages we paid for the following season) for him? The answer is probably yes, right?

If we'd sold him summer of 2021, for £10m, we're £5m better off and did we get £5m of value from Aribo in 21/22? Probably not.

Of course, you can only sell, when someone wants to buy, but his stock was at its highest summer of 21.

 

[JMCK]

Context: Not a Ross Wilson praise post.​

To be honest, it goes beyond 'was the signing a successful player for Rangers'... and should take into consideration both value and profit.

The question really is: Which of Ross Wilson's signings were good for the business?

My opinion:

​

Hits​	Misses​	50/50​	Too early to tell​
Hagi Bassey McLaughlin Defo Balogun Lundstram Bacuna* Colak Lawrence**​	Kamberi Itten Zungu Simpson Zukowski Ramsey Souttar​	Roofe** Diallo*** Sands Wright*** Sakala***​	Matondo Tillman Yilmaz Davies Oforboh​

* Shite player but made a profit?
** Only if they remain injury free (or injured at a normal rate)
*** Value for money signing. If high wages would be a miss, but could still move to Hit.

If Wilson is to be judged on first-team signings, should we also be judging him on academy players such as:

Charlie Lindsay
Tony Weston
Charlie McCann
Juan Alegria
Zak Lovelace

As well as considering transfers away from Rangers (transfers only, not contract expiry or loan returns):

Correct decision	Correct decision, poor deal	Wrong decision
Grezda Herrera Holt Polster Docherty McCrorie Edmundson Jones Patterson Bacuna Itten Hastie Bassey Middleton Simpson Katic​	Dire Mebude* Dapo Mebude* Barker**​	Aribo***​

* Should have got more money
** Was leaving on a free best?
*** Should have sold earlier to get a higher fee

Finally, contracts:

Good management	Bad management	Neither good nor bad
Patterson* Davis McGregor Tavernier Balogun Defoe Kamara McLaughlin Lowry Arfield​	Balogun** Goldson*** Aribo**** Kent**** Morelos****​	Firth​

* Got us a good fee
** Should have stayed
*** Took far too long to sort
**** Should have sold them earlier, for bigger profit

Great post, but I would still regard Souttar as 'Too early to tell'.