Shinnie on a freebie as first choice LB seems a no-brainer. Keep Borna for cover or punt him down south for (hopefully) a breakeven.
I know there’s already a thread on Borna, but do we have to consider cutting our losses with this pair? Can’t see how Grezda will feature given our surplus of wide players i.e Candeias, Middleton, Murphy, Kent(if he stays) & Jones.
Barisic is so bang average. Halliday is a better left back and all round footballer. I think we need to consider the wages they are taking up and see if we can find a willing buyer.
Every player deserves our support.To the OP we continue to support both players to get fully fit and integrate them into our club.
The likes of Mcoist,Goram and Hateley were written off early in their Rangers careers.
Nobody is saying he is, is Halliday contributing more? Yes he is.....which is alarming considering how limited he is and also considering he is not a natural left back. Barisic needs to get the finger out and realise he isn't at a 2 bob club anymore.Sorry but Halliday is not a better footballer. No matter how average Barisic has been.
Aye, i agree with you.Nobody is saying he is, is Halliday contributing more? Yes he is.....which is alarming considering how limited he is and also considering he is not a natural left back. Barisic needs to get the finger out and realise he isn't at a 2 bob club anymore.
Clearly are scape goats if the guys have hardly played yet get more criticism than anyone else.Hardly scape goats though.
Both have been bang average at best and a real worry given the financial outlay.
Hope they both come good but I really don’t see it with Grezda at all.
Shinnie on a freebie as first choice LB seems a no-brainer. Keep Borna for cover or punt him down south for (hopefully) a breakeven.
Barisic is in interesting one, when playing behind Kent he should be making the overlaps out wide and whipping the ball in as he can certainly cross. The problem is Kent is unpredictable and often goes on a wee mazy inside and rarely makes the pass for Barisic so I don’t think we get the best out of him.
As for Grezda I haven’t seen enough of him.
Wingers don't work in 4 3 3. You need 3 scorers in the front 3. Not 2 wingers feeding 1 forward. Esp when tjat forward is at his best with his back to goal. How many times Do You see Morelos sweeping in a cut back? Not often.
If he is, and I'm not sure he is, then it is negligible at very best.Nobody is saying he is, is Halliday contributing more? Yes he is.....which is alarming considering how limited he is and also considering he is not a natural left back. Barisic needs to get the finger out and realise he isn't at a 2 bob club anymore.
That guy Grezda is honking i had made mind up on him after his 2nd game. Terrible for an Internationalist.
Except nobody is saying he's Maldini.I like how Halliday has turned into Maldini recently. Quite the transformation.
That's how easy it is to use hyperbole.
What was your trade? Let's assume.you were a joiner. I'll bet that despite you needing time to settle in, you never fitted the front doors upside down or put the windows in inside out -right? People could still look at you and see a joiner doing the basics correctly - right???You know what I moved to Canada 12yrs ago I had 25yrs+ experience in my trade but my first couple of years was an absolute struggle. I had many moments of what have I done. trying to fit into a new Country , culture, working environment, gaining respect of locals who think your a prima donna. For some it could be a breeze for others worse than me. Unless you have done that kind of move you have no phucking clue. Some guys don't even have the balls to chuck their job for another across town
He's a good left back, a winner, a leader. Not good enough for our midfield, but much better than our left backs. Good to have options too.Shinnie isn't a LB. He plays centre mid and has done for years.
At the time Goram et al were being called all sorts. Ally.Ally gtf was one chant. Hateley like Grezda was coming back from injury. Goram was making bad mistakes. I have to listen to my best pal every game about Barisic. The Rangers support doesnt do patience.Every player deserves our support.
Felt for Barisic on Tuesday when he was getting a bit of stick, however he has been a major disappointment and has a battle on his hands to reinstate support/ manager confidence .
Grezda was one baffling signing, the guy had no previous period of good form due to his long term Injury ,therefore who signed him? And on what evidence?
The likes of Goram , McCoist and Hateley as your rightly say, struggled early in their Rangers careers ,however we as a support were well aware of their capabilities.
This time last year Virtually nobody within our support were aware of the capabilities of both Grezda and Barisic.
Shinnie isn't a LB. He plays centre mid and has done for years.
Are you saying Grezda doesn't even have the Basics?What was your trade? Let's assume.you were a joiner. I'll bet that despite you needing time to settle in, you never fitted the front doors upside down or put the windows in inside out -right? People could still look at you and see a joiner doing the basics correctly - right???
Shinnie was a left back, and a good one at that.If it's true that were signing him, i think well have ourselves a very good hard working player.
Except nobody is saying he's Maldini.
But If we were playing Celtic tomorrow, I'd take him every day of the week ahead of Barasic.
Cannae agree Halliday is a better footballer....his crossing against the hivs was unbelievably bad....shocking for a professional.I know there’s already a thread on Borna, but do we have to consider cutting our losses with this pair? Can’t see how Grezda will feature given our surplus of wide players i.e Candeias, Middleton, Murphy, Kent(if he stays) & Jones.
Barisic is so bang average. Halliday is a better left back and all round footballer. I think we need to consider the wages they are taking up and see if we can find a willing buyer.
AN Other teams 2 wide players score plenty through interchange and cut backs. Kent and Candeias don't seem to have that positional sense.Exactly. And we don’t have any. Which is why it’s mystifying that we A) Persist with the formation, and B) Keep signing wingers/wide men who don’t score.
Why are people overexaggerating how shîte Barisic has been? He's not been as good as we had been expecting, but he's hardly Lee Hodson mk2.
Back in the day you would have said Davis was a workhorse with talent. You're looking at 7 mill plus for a young version now. Walter didn't buy many workhorsesShameful signings.
To win this title back first and foremost we need to go back to the school of Walter signings - worknhorses with some talent we can worry about fancy foreigners and selling them on for a profit once we have a league back.
That's a fair few levels down, they also rate Lafferty who's as big a disappointment.Northen ireland team seems to rate lee hodson.
He's talking shite.Are you saying Grezda doesn't even have the Basics?
Chronic, absolutely howling, sh*tebag, woeful, rotten. That's some of the words used to describe Barisic in the last few days.
Those are words used to describe players we had during the banter years.
It's like people just let go of all reality on the internet and the default setting is extreme.
Im referring to Barasic. I see quite lot of technical ability with GrezdaAre you saying Grezda doesn't even have the Basics?
Sorry, missed your point.That's not the point I was making. People have used hyperbole on Barisic, comparing him to some of the worst fullbacks we've had since 2012, using some words that wouldn't look out of place when describing Ricky Foster et al.
So I thought I'd overrate how good Halliday has been. He was rotten away to Hibs, but you wouldn't have known that.
These people are morons and there is no use in bothering with them.Chronic, absolutely howling, sh*tebag, woeful, rotten. That's some of the words used to describe Barisic in the last few days.
Those are words used to describe players we had during the banter years.
It's like people just let go of all reality on the internet and the default setting is extreme.
You are definitely not paying attention.Sorry but Halliday is not a better footballer. No matter how average Barisic has been.
Disagree. He was making the 11 or bench pretty consistently until he got injuredI think Grezda has had a fairly harsh time of it. He has shown in a few games (away to hearts, away to hibs, home to motherwell) that there is at least some signs of ability. He's new to the country, had a stop/start time of it with injuries, and has barely played. To write him off this early would be a bit premature.
One thing that does concern me is that it's fairly clear that gerrard doesn't fancy him so far.
I know there’s already a thread on Borna, but do we have to consider cutting our losses with this pair? Can’t see how Grezda will feature given our surplus of wide players i.e Candeias, Middleton, Murphy, Kent(if he stays) & Jones.
Barisic is so bang average. Halliday is a better left back and all round footballer. I think we need to consider the wages they are taking up and see if we can find a willing buyer.