rangeral
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There selling season tickets for the Moffat. One stand only for away fans.
They have been doing that for for past seasons, just move their STH to accommodate us and them
There selling season tickets for the Moffat. One stand only for away fans.
Blackmailing folk is always a good look.
It is easier. Kilmarnock have thousands of empty seats people can move to.
For what it’s worth, I’m in favour of safe standing but it’s far more difficult for our club to carry out because we don’t have many vacant seats to move people to.
they would be better off introducing a safe pitch first
Haha. Yes it was designed to stop Rangers doing.Celtic in cahoots with GCC agreed a 3 year trial. This was designed to stop us doing it. They needn't have bothered as we're starting year 4 with no action. We welcome the chase. Ha ha.
Safe standing is no guarantee for a better atmosphere unless RFC create the old rover style season tickets for that particular section.
Groups of mates or RSC’s together will help atmosphere, in conjunction with safe standing. But not on its own.
You also need to factor in people will see it as an opportunity to get a better view such as those in restricted view positions currently. They might have no interest in singing.
Kilmarnock have obviously done this to sort their young ‘ultras’ hence the relatively low numbers of seats being converted to safe standing.
Practicalities wise at Ibrox the enclosures lend themselves best to being converted to safe standing. The fronts of the Copland and Broomloan would restrict views of those in the Govan east and west corners and at the extremities of the enclosures.
Blackmail?Blackmailing folk is always a good look.
I'm in CD7, I know it'll never be up there.I do wonder how many people who are full support of safe standing at Ibrox sit in areas where they know they'll never be any chance of it being implemented.
I'm in CD7, I know it'll never be up there.
If it was, I'd either remain in that section or take a seat elsewhere.
Every seat in Ibrox faces the pitch, I'm not going to start crying about not being in the one I usually sit in.
Good on them.
But with the alkie away I can see attendances falling again.
Please elaborate?What does that say about our lot?
Good for you.
That they should be getting moved regardless, wee token 25% renewal discount for the annoyance.
Job done.
Oh sorry, was I meant to feign horror at the idea to support your stupid notion that people are only in favour of safe standing as it won't affect them?
If you're not prepared for the answer, don't ask the question.
Apologies, you wondered rather than asked.You've made a massive arse of yourself if that's what you've taken from that post.
I also never asked a question, but you knew that already.
To be honest, the old style terracing would be safe standing at Rugby park.
Apologies, you wondered rather than asked.
And you have the gall to say I'm making an arse of myself?
You wonder how those fans unaffected would react, I give you my say and you reply with a snide 'good for you'.
You've clearly implied that there are some in favour of safe standing purely from a point if view that it doesn't mean they move seats.
I do wonder how many people who are full support of safe standing at Ibrox sit in areas where they know they'll never be any chance of it being implemented.
That they should be getting moved regardless, wee token 25% renewal discount for the annoyance.
Job done.
Agree
Can’t say I’m bothered about this issue, but reconverting the enclosures back to standing would be the obvious move if we did it
It’s a great pity this issue is still a source of debate, I believe in having the choice to stand at football and as we are a large club with a large fan base I also think a safe standing area needs to be a full section to satisfy demand and make it worthwhile and not just a half arsed few blocks in a stand.
My first preference would be be whole Govan front and both corners or second choice the entire Copland front but I know there are obstacles to these ideas with certain fans moaning about moving, the current capacity is also a constraint. a lack of money and the unwillingness and lack of ambition to have a more expansive area means it’s unlikely to happen any time soon. If the club does eventually want to introduce this I want it to be reasonably big and in a prominent position in the stadium.
Liked this dictionary definition of Provincial:Good to see them acknowledged their position as a diddy club in the header.
I'm currently in the Broomloan Front which the board are hell bent on turning into Safe-Standing despite the general opinion that it would be one of, if not the worst places to have it.
I have more of an issue the way fans are being described as "That lot"and morons.By all means,fight for your cause but keep a bit of respect for fans involved.They don't need to be won over, they need to be moved.
"it's my seat and i won't move" is infuriating, the atmosphere is more important than their sentimental views
A handful of supporters are holding the club back?Really?And if the still don’t like it.... there’s plenty on the waiting list who’ll take their places.
We püssy foot about far to much!!!!!
We can’t and shouldn’t have a handful of supporters holding the club and the rest of the fans back from an improved atmosphere which will in turn lift the team.
Surely the BF is the only realistic option? I’m not sure you are right in saying the general opinion is that it would be one of the worst places to have it. Ideally it would be in the CF and or the Govan East Corner, but that would mean moving more people that in the BF. Half of the BF is already an unofficial standing area anyway, obviously BF 1 and 2 are where most people stand, but I’m in BF4 and there’s a fair few people stand there too. The idea would meet the least resistance if it was introduced in the Broomloan Front.
The old standing enclosures had a great atmosphere in their day.Terrible location. Who wants a safe standing section split in two and hidden away from the tv audience? It should be given the highest profile possible.
Good thing is the majority agree on safe standing.Safe standing at Ibrox will be a bone of contention among supporters until a compromise on where it should be located is finalised.
1. Copland
2. Broomloan
3. Enclosure
4. Govan
5. Corners of Copland and Broomloan
All these areas have been mentioned as feasible
Supporters that are currently in these areas all have their own opinions on where safe standing should be situated.
And majority are happy to have safe standing at Ibrox as long as it is not in their area.
We as a support offer fail to agree and this shows no signs of even remotely agreeing.
Safe standing is no guarantee for a better atmosphere unless RFC create the old rover style season tickets for that particular section.
Groups of mates or RSC’s together will help atmosphere, in conjunction with safe standing. But not on its own.
You also need to factor in people will see it as an opportunity to get a better view such as those in restricted view positions currently. They might have no interest in singing.
Kilmarnock have obviously done this to sort their young ‘ultras’ hence the relatively low numbers of seats being converted to safe standing.
Practicalities wise at Ibrox the enclosures lend themselves best to being converted to safe standing. The fronts of the Copland and Broomloan would restrict views of those in the Govan east and west corners and at the extremities of the enclosures.
Surely the BF is the only realistic option? I’m not sure you are right in saying the general opinion is that it would be one of the worst places to have it. Ideally it would be in the CF and or the Govan East Corner, but that would mean moving more people that in the BF. Half of the BF is already an unofficial standing area anyway, obviously BF 1 and 2 are where most people stand, but I’m in BF4 and there’s a fair few people stand there too. The idea would meet the least resistance if it was introduced in the Broomloan Front.
A handful of supporters are holding the club back?Really?
Do you honestly think the club would pay attention to a few fans if they really wanted to apply safe seating?
Its patter like this that makes people dig their heels in. You are also correct , punters with season tickets for 30 odd years are loyal and deserve a little bit of respect.Oh sorry. I meant our loyal, 30 year ST holders that dont care about the atmosphere.
I take your point on the club wanting to keep a check on people but that will not help build an atmosphere.That’ll never happen. Season tickets help the club keep tabs on people, having the freedom to go wherever you want is imo outdated. There’s no need for it. A safe standing section will be the centre of an atmosphere. If mates or rsc want to be together then get a ticket together, it’s not impossible. It’ll be the same as it is currently, only that there’s a rail and the seats can be locked away. You’ll have a specific seat, much easier to manage trouble makers this way.
Oh sorry. I meant our loyal, 30 year ST holders that dont care about the atmosphere.
Sorry but I would suggest a massive majority of our fans wouldn't support safe standing if it affected their seats.Handful or a few hundred, or even a couple of thousand.....
Either way, it’s a massive minority.
The club need to grow a set and get on with it!
We do anyway lolWonder if away fans will be able to stand when we inevitably get both stands behind the goals again.