Sums their feelings of self entitlement perfectly,they are beyond parody
"Celtic shouldn't have to play European qualifiers"
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jweebear
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Agree bud, but the Mhedia wouldn't say it though, that's the agenda.
Truckerman
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Yeah that is the reason we play qualifiers
bornabluenose
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I get the argument but it's typical of that lot to deny where Scottish football actually is and expect special status.
I actually hate the new C.L format but it is what it is .
bearmind
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The current Champions League format is far from perfect but I wouldn't want to watch the champions of e.g. Malta, Kosovo, Bosnia, Estonia, Faroes, Latvia, Armenia etc qualify for anything other than the early preliminary or qualifying rounds. They would generally be cannon fodder for big Group Stage teams should they parachute in there.
As for Celtic they must be the most Narcissistic club in world football with their 'Ideas
of Granduer' that they are so superior they shouldn't have to play qualifiers in the Champions League! In reality they are little better than the champions of Denmark, Bulgaria, Romania, Slovenia, Slovakia, Sweden etc as the co-efficients show.
On the few occassions they have qualified for the Champions League Group stages they then became cannon-fodder for the Barcelona's, PSG's etc. Much and all as I love too see them humiliated and embarrased in those matches, I prefer when it comes to watching matches (involving other teams) that these are closer games i.e. a 3 v 2 match is more exciting and enjoyable as opposed to 7 v 0 game
UEFA could correct this anomaly of 'Champions' League by just renaming it something like The European League of Eilte Clubs 2020/21. You can only be champions when you win the damn thing.
As for Celtic they must be the most Narcissistic club in world football with their 'Ideas
of Granduer' that they are so superior they shouldn't have to play qualifiers in the Champions League! In reality they are little better than the champions of Denmark, Bulgaria, Romania, Slovenia, Slovakia, Sweden etc as the co-efficients show.
On the few occassions they have qualified for the Champions League Group stages they then became cannon-fodder for the Barcelona's, PSG's etc. Much and all as I love too see them humiliated and embarrased in those matches, I prefer when it comes to watching matches (involving other teams) that these are closer games i.e. a 3 v 2 match is more exciting and enjoyable as opposed to 7 v 0 game
UEFA could correct this anomaly of 'Champions' League by just renaming it something like The European League of Eilte Clubs 2020/21. You can only be champions when you win the damn thing.
Stewart G
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Totally ageree.
It is a nonsense that any league winner has to qualify when down to 4th place can get in from 'stronger' leagues.
Champion League has been a total disaster for European football and I'd happily scrap it and go back to knockout again or at least have a totally random draw for leagues with no pre qualifying needed. That would be more exciting.
Another Dodgy Decision
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The simple fact is...if Celtic and the rest of the teams in the league didn’t demote us to division 3 then they wouldn’t have to play all these qualifying rounds. It’s their own fucking fault.
bear wi nae hair
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ClockworkOrange
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Think a lot of people are forgetting that, fingers crossed, we'll be in this position this time next year, and you can guarantee that they'll be a lot of moaning about how the Champions of Scotland 19-20 need to play so many qualifiers.
Bear all
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It's because of their lack of progress in Europe they have to,its all based on the coefficient.
The fact is they have failed continually to qualify during their unimpossed free run in the Champions League.
lumbear1872
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Im assuming he is saying the same about us? No laughing at the back.
wee bud's pit boots
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But you will NEVER have a 'shettleston' making that argument/plea on our behalf if the roles were reversed. Strange that.
WATPWATP
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isn't a champions league anymore, liverpool won it and they aren't champions of their own league.just a European super league in all but name now.should never be that way
irvine96
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The reason is Scottish teams getting beat by teams that they should be beating over the years.Kilmarnock just letting country down again.
Does seem unfair when sides like ourselves and Celtic who have reasonable European pedigrees have to play so many qualifying rounds and 4th place teams from England Spain Germany etc all go into group stages.Uefa just want the sides fron bigger countries involved in Champions League
Does seem unfair when sides like ourselves and Celtic who have reasonable European pedigrees have to play so many qualifying rounds and 4th place teams from England Spain Germany etc all go into group stages.Uefa just want the sides fron bigger countries involved in Champions League
basiltherat
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The team that finished 4th in England won the tournament
Surely that would suggest they belong in that company
Robertjohn
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Who says,
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Ali Baba
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Remember a time when it was just the champions of a country who were in it.Now it’s utter pish.It bores the drawers off me.Every season there is hardly an upset.It is a predictable set of matches and most are utter gash.
borders billy
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If they changed the name from champions League back to the European cup would that work.
Chastu
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Have to agree it has become all too predictable, no more surprises
Scotland11
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Similar piece about us in the Evening Times on Friday:
UEFA SHOULD RETHINK THE QUALIFYING PROCESS
Rangers may have lost to Progres in the first Europa League qualifying round two years ago on their return to continental football after a seven year absence.
But what exactly is the point of the Glasgow giants taking on Luxembourgian minnows? Why did they have to play two matches against tiny St Joseph’s of Gibraltar? These mismatches are non-events.
Yes, Scotland’s poor coefficient means that their representatives in Europe now have to go through four rounds before getting into either the Europa League Pr Champions League group stages. But UEFA should seriously reconsider doing away with these meaningless encounters when they next revamp the competition.
https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/17795921.rangers-2-0-progres-five-things-learned-Ibrox/
UEFA SHOULD RETHINK THE QUALIFYING PROCESS
Rangers may have lost to Progres in the first Europa League qualifying round two years ago on their return to continental football after a seven year absence.
But what exactly is the point of the Glasgow giants taking on Luxembourgian minnows? Why did they have to play two matches against tiny St Joseph’s of Gibraltar? These mismatches are non-events.
Yes, Scotland’s poor coefficient means that their representatives in Europe now have to go through four rounds before getting into either the Europa League Pr Champions League group stages. But UEFA should seriously reconsider doing away with these meaningless encounters when they next revamp the competition.
https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/17795921.rangers-2-0-progres-five-things-learned-Ibrox/
BunsenHoneydew
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Thought this deserved a wee bump 
SecondBestIsNothing
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Cluj shouldn't have to play qualifiers
Stewart G
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Said the same for years. Waste of time watching now.
Bring back the old format with winners only and an unseeded draw. That would make it exciting
Blinded by the lights.
CL lights should now be renamed Europa League bulbs.
CL lights should now be renamed Europa League bulbs.
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Ali Baba
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Disco lights.
These are the ratings for a team who got beat . Unreal
LOL 133
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The CL should be a straight knock out competition with no seeding and league winners only. Throw 64 names in a hat and lets see what happens. If needs be then play a few qualifying games to get the required 64 teams.
Cambell Ogilvie is to blame for the current arrangements based on pure greed.
Cambell Ogilvie is to blame for the current arrangements based on pure greed.
Wazza
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How do you get 64 teams though from 55 nations?
wee bud's pit boots
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I think the argument/debate there is if they actually have been allowed to compete in the tournament in the first place?
1999, was the year the European Cup died.
tazzabear
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Was this your view when Ogilvie first mentioned the concept?
Davidw72
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If they didn’t have a hand in us being relegated to the bottom of Scottish football, then the European challenge that they have so miserably failed at over the last 8 years could have had a different outcome. Beating Aberdeen, Hearts, Hibs etc is one thing, but a good European outfit or a well organised Rangers team with some good footballers is a different entity. Most of their squads value is based on winning trophies against inferior opposition, the cards are certainly very unstable.You couldn't make this twat up.
They have to play those qualifiers because they voted for the coefficient to get destroyed.
It's that simple.
It's that simple.
The Golden God
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They refuse to make that link.
Kicking out the only other team who reliably gained co-efficient points and replaced them with Motherwell, Aberdeen etc.
What did they think would happen?
tazzabear
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Well, to a point, they solved that problem last night.
madmac1959
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Just give them a bye to the final then they can take 500,000 fans to see it.
Can ah get a lenny your season card fur the piggery so I can witness whit you are rantin aboot.
weetoonbear85
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They are ratings from a previous game in July.
Thanks never noticed
