Totally depressed. What a shite start to the weekend.
It's only the word 19th Century Terrorist that is an issue for UEFA. We should stick the BB and SuperRangers on ice for this season and try and bring them back with PG13 add ons.It's pretty straightforward. We know the situation. People need to refrain from singing those songs. We have a great songbook. Lets use those instead.
That’s the thing.
UEFA don’t care, Rangers don’t care and Steven Gerrard doesn’t care.
We can ask where this has come from, why now and why no scrutiny of the Yahoos Provo rousing / hun baiting songbook, but those are questions for a more sober morning - right now there’s only one thing we need attend to and that’s cut out the add ons and get rid of the bampots in the support for whom having the opportunity to sing sectarian songs is more important than watching The Rangers.
Plenty of the bampots are on here that just don't get it. They wont get it until we're kicked out of Europe altogether.
It's only the word 19th Century Terrorist that is an issue for UEFA. We should stick the BB and SuperRangers on ice for this season and try and bring them back with PG13 add ons.
And then they still won't get it.Plenty of the bampots are on here that just don't get it. They wont get it until we're kicked out of Europe altogether.
TBH I think 39 people being killed because of Liverpool fans in a stadium while the whole of Europe watched on tv may have played a part in that.UEFA have always been anti British. They banned English clubs from Europe for years due to hooliganism while European thugs were acting in the same manner and got off scot free.
Uefas rules are clear as crystal
They aren't anti rangers or anti protestant
We stop singing about 19th Century Terrorists and hating Catholics (FTP), we won't get punished.
Amazed people think it's their human right to attend a professional football stadium and 'sing what they want'
Exactly. It’s over, it’s been lost. We can’t sing 19th Century Terrorist at Ibrox anymore.That’s the thing.
UEFA don’t care, Rangers don’t care and Steven Gerrard doesn’t care.
We can ask where this has come from, why now and why no scrutiny of the Yahoos Provo rousing / hun baiting songbook, but those are questions for a more sober morning - right now there’s only one thing we need attend to and that’s cut out the add ons and get rid of the bampots in the support for whom having the opportunity to sing sectarian songs is more important than watching The Rangers.
It isn't only the word that's the issue though, Uefa will absolutely hammer us if we go near any song with reference of being up to our knees in blood. If they can be put on ice then they can be put to bed for good.It's only the word 19th Century Terrorist that is an issue for UEFA. We should stick the BB and SuperRangers on ice for this season and try and bring them back with PG13 add ons.
I know it's UEFA's competition, but surely legalities still stand. Say for instance Real Madrid, Lazio and Legia Warsaw fans made monkey noises at a player and were fined. And Spartak Moscow fans did it and had stadium closed. Surely, regardless of previous offences, they would have reason to legally challenge said ruling. I know it's a convoluted point, but they can't be above the law?
Clowns will still be nit-picking about the meaning of 19th Century Terrorist.Plenty of the bampots are on here that just don't get it. They wont get it until we're kicked out of Europe altogether.
Where are they challenging it? Are you prepared for the Club to stop playing in Europe while we make a legal challenge?
You do know that the straw that broke the camels back with reference to English fans behaviour was 39 supporters being killed inside a football stadium?UEFA have always been anti British. They banned English clubs from Europe for years due to hooliganism while European thugs were acting in the same manner and got off scot free.
Don't worry about them. They will get stung by this as well. Their behaviour in europe is abhorrent its inevitable. We need to focus on us and wise up, don't give UEFA any reason to cite us again.That’s the thing.
UEFA don’t care, Rangers don’t care and Steven Gerrard doesn’t care.
We can ask where this has come from, why now and why no scrutiny of the Yahoos Provo rousing / hun baiting songbook, but those are questions for a more sober morning - right now there’s only one thing we need attend to and that’s cut out the add ons and get rid of the bampots in the support for whom having the opportunity to sing sectarian songs is more important than watching The Rangers.
Being killed sitting in their seats or was there some kind of charge/crush involved?You do know that the straw that broke the camels back with reference to English fans behaviour was 39 supporters being killed inside a football stadium?
It's only the word 19th Century Terrorist that is an issue for UEFA. We should stick the BB and SuperRangers on ice for this season and try and bring them back with PG13 add ons.
I'd imagine Uefa wouldn't give a toss as the argument would be that we should know who is being admitted to the stadium.serious question - what stops entryism? e.g. rival fans disguising themselves as home support and intentionally singing offensive songs.
If strict liability comes in then i can see this being a sneaky tactic.
Surely the solution comes in better stewarding to actually get the people who sing the songs rather than a blanket solution that punishes regular fans.
My worry is what’s been reported from the Two rounds following ST Joseph’s. Could the second and third punishments be implemented before we know it
I hear what you're saying but I was trying to be diplomatic.On ice? The club's message is that the songs are banned. This fanciful notion that TBB will be fine after a Disneyfied reboot is one that was debunked once and for all in 2006.
It's done, has been since the punishment received for the Villareal home game in 2006.
So far we have 4lads and TheCopland and c1872 being fed by the club.
Who thinks this is the best strategy?
serious question - what stops entryism? e.g. rival fans disguising themselves as home support and intentionally singing offensive songs.
If strict liability comes in then i can see this being a sneaky tactic.
Surely the solution comes in better stewarding to actually get the people who sing the songs rather than a blanket solution that punishes regular fans.
Nope - F the Pope is also a huge problemIt's only the word 19th Century Terrorist that is an issue for UEFA. We should stick the BB and SuperRangers on ice for this season and try and bring them back with PG13 add ons.
I'm not saying Rangers are challenging it! I'm wondering at what point do you say we are not being treated fairly or equally, and what recourse is there? Do UEFA operate above national law, court decisions in member states? Do you just have to accept rulings which are blatantly biased if you want to participate in their competition?Where are they challenging it? Are you prepared for the Club to stop playing in Europe while we make a legal challenge?
I disagree but we can do that another time. Type something and I'll look at it tomorrowNope - F the Pope is also a huge problem
change it to peado bastards.l.It's only the word 19th Century Terrorist that is an issue for UEFA. We should stick the BB and SuperRangers on ice for this season and try and bring them back with PG13 add ons.
He came onto our pitch, in our stadium, and was able to run the length of it. The fine will always be with the club, doesn't matter who the pitch invader is. I was at Ibrox that night and remember very angry fans singing "Security, you're having a laugh".Nothing.
Remember that fucking bampot who wore a pope shirt, draped himself in a palestine flag, handcuffed himself to the post and started launching sectarian slurs at the front row in the middle of a European game against Maccabi Haifa?
We got fined for that.
My worry is what’s been reported from the Two rounds following ST Joseph’s. Could the second and third punishments be implemented before we know it
I'm not saying Rangers are challenging it! I'm wondering at what point do you say we are not being treated fairly or equally, and what recourse is there? Do UEFA operate above national law, court decisions in member states? Do you just have to accept rulings which are blatantly biased if you want to participate in their competition?