Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)
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Morpheus
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Are you saying Police Scotland have mysteriously lost this piece of evidence too? Surely not? I mean they don't have previous for that kind of thing do they?
Ross
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Exactly my point. Also paints a certain other team even more into the corner.
Wamphray_Loyal
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DAMAGES FIGHT Victims of vile football paedos Harry Dunn and Gordon Neely suing clubs they were linked to – including Rangers, Hibernian and Dundee United
Victims of two vile football paedos suing Scots clubs they were linked to
NINE victims of vile footie paedos Harry Dunn and Gordon Neely are suing the clubs they were linked to — including Rangers, Hibernian and Dundee United. And the outfits were urged to offer “unreser…www.google.com
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By Marcello Mega
14th September 2019, 11:19 pm
Updated: 14th September 2019, 11:32 pm
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NINE victims of vile footie paedos Harry Dunn and Gordon Neely are suing the clubs they were linked to — including Rangers, Hibernian and Dundee United.
And the outfits were urged to offer “unreserved apologies and financial justice” to those molested by the beasts, both of whom are now dead.
Harry Dunn identified players for Rangers and a number of English clubs
Harry Dunn identified players for Rangers and a number of English clubs
The Scottish Sun on Sunday led the way almost three years ago in exposing the sick pair’s sexual abuse of youngsters hoping to forge careers in the game.
Scout Dunn identified talented kids for Gers plus English sides Liverpool, Chelsea and Leicester City.
While Neely coached hundreds of youngsters at Hutchison Vale Boys Club in Edinburgh, Dundee United, Hibs and the Ibrox giants.
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I am sure our club will lead from the front and do the decent thing by any victims of abuse whilst they were in our care .
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Like everyone else on this forum I am just sharing conversions with like minded bears . The fact there are intelligent mentally challengeds out there just shows what we are up against when they make their comments to me. I want to know what they are thinking. I want to know What they think of us. Then I can come into forums like this and share. I don’t socialise with them so work is the only place to communicate. I believe knowledge is power and the more of it the better. Of course they read our forums . There are lhurkers everywhere. Of course they know there are people working behind the scenes . I have never been near any of their forums but I could imagine that they have people working behind the scenes to kill us off again. Why is tonites news about our club such a surprise. It’s dog eat dog . I came onto this forum because I was sexually abused twice as a thirteen year old . Anyone on this forum who has also suffered knows what it is like to lose your innocence and have your power taken away from you. If something catches your eye in a suspicious way bluenose 94 then you can ask me to log out and never post again. One thing will never change for me you don’t choose to be a Rangers fan = YOU ARE BORN ONE.
Gardy Loyal
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We need to get this settled. Article says there are 9 victims suing across a number of clubs north and south of the border. If we’re liable for anything then we must deal with it properly which we will.
There’s one club that facilitated a noncing ring for decades, with 100s of victims, and nothing will distract from that even though they want it to.
There’s one club that facilitated a noncing ring for decades, with 100s of victims, and nothing will distract from that even though they want it to.
Why would I ask you to log out? That’s not for me to say. That’s your choice. Like I said previously, I was intrigued by your post reference bad timing. I never mentioned anything about suspicions. You have.
Lenzie Loyal
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Don't speculate and make up complete lies when you have no idea what you're talking about.
I've never said this about anyone on here, but you're one for the watching.
Korova Milk Bar
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Neely abused at Hibs and Dunn abused victims while at Rangers? I hope the victims of this disgusting abuse that took place at our club as well as other clubs receive financial justice.DAMAGES FIGHT Victims of vile football paedos Harry Dunn and Gordon Neely suing clubs they were linked to – including Rangers, Hibernian and Dundee UnitedVictims of two vile football paedos suing Scots clubs they were linked to
NINE victims of vile footie paedos Harry Dunn and Gordon Neely are suing the clubs they were linked to — including Rangers, Hibernian and Dundee United. And the outfits were urged to offer “unreser…www.google.com
EXCLUSIVE
By Marcello Mega
14th September 2019, 11:19 pm
Updated: 14th September 2019, 11:32 pm
2 COMMENTS
NINE victims of vile footie paedos Harry Dunn and Gordon Neely are suing the clubs they were linked to — including Rangers, Hibernian and Dundee United.
And the outfits were urged to offer “unreserved apologies and financial justice” to those molested by the beasts, both of whom are now dead.
Harry Dunn identified players for Rangers and a number of English clubs
Harry Dunn identified players for Rangers and a number of English clubs
The Scottish Sun on Sunday led the way almost three years ago in exposing the sick pair’s sexual abuse of youngsters hoping to forge careers in the game.
Scout Dunn identified talented kids for Gers plus English sides Liverpool, Chelsea and Leicester City.
While Neely coached hundreds of youngsters at Hutchison Vale Boys Club in Edinburgh, Dundee United, Hibs and the Ibrox giants.
Lenzie Loyal
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A complete hatchet job on Rangers as Hollicom and The Sun go all out to drag Rangers into the Child Sex Abuse Scandal engulfing Celtic.
Korova Milk Bar
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Just been catching up with the thread, well done to everyone’s contributions so far!
Lenzie Loyal
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When was Harry Dunn convicted.............?
Korova Milk Bar
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He wasn’t and Neely never abused anyone at Rangers, it was Hibs that didn’t inform us and Souness sacked him after allegations emerged of what he had done at Hibs. If he wasn’t convicted then how are we being sued? I’m not saying the victims are lying but if these allegations are true they deserve financial justice.
Lenzie Loyal
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Where's your proof that Dunn abused anyone at Rangers?
Was he convicted in a court of law?
Lenzie Loyal
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Not entirely sure if you've been paying attention, but last time I checked Celtic had 6, YES SIX paedophiles connected to CELTIC FC or CELTIC BOYS CLUB found guilty in a court of law. There are allegedly quite a few more still at large.
To the best of my knowledge no one connected to Rangers has ever been charged or convicted of child sex abuse.
Don't do Hollicom's work for them.
Charliedontsurf
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Marcello Mega now that name rings a bell.
Every one except the Rhats .
If there is a convicted peadophile at Our club.We would hound them not give them hush money
Every one except the Rhats .
If there is a convicted peadophile at Our club.We would hound them not give them hush money
Charliedontsurf
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Are you for real ?
jf1960
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Neely was sacked by Rangers for an inappropriate comment from a minor
Dunn if you read it right was charged for abuse against children at multiple football clubs Inc Rangers
From what I believe there is is one charge for Dunn at Rangers the rest are from mostly Chelsea bottom line nobody but nobody from Ibrox has even been found guilty and also while I'm here there are a few people worth a watching too goody, goody for my liking... You know who you are
Huckleberry
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This tactical agenda was always going to be adopted by Celtic and their friends, it's a society thing all of football was affected. In most situations it is addressed by contacting the proper authorities. The difference with the club like no other is it will forever be remembered for continually ignoring habitual molestation of youth players, repeatedly denying any knowledge of vile behaviour at epidemic levels. The SFA,police and governments handling of this is appalling.
AYEBrox
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Apologies as I’ve already put this post on another thread but feel I want to add it to this one also, any issues admin please remove.
I don’t see this story in the Sun as a bad thing, maybe this is what is needed to draw out all those shitebags from other football clubs & to be perfectly honest, ordinary Scottish people in general, wake the fu*k up n smell the coffee, why does it seem that the public at large across the country seem to be happy turning a blind eye at the moment, hopefully they’ll jump on the bandwagon hoping to have a go at Rangers (Whatever it takes to get them from their zombified state back into the real world) making some sort of noise, draw them out into the open see if we can have them calling for a fully independent public enquiry into Child Sexual Abuse in this country then slam dunk the fu*king lot of them.
I don’t care what it takes to get to the end goal which for me is finding out who knew & what did they do about CSA in Scottish football (for starters) over the last 5 decades, let the victims decide collectively what they require to give each & every one of them closure from their suffering & make everyone identified as a harbourer & enabler accountable & liable.
Finger pointing, hearsay & some dodgy point scoring cowardly headlines, bring it on, let’s go.
I don’t see this story in the Sun as a bad thing, maybe this is what is needed to draw out all those shitebags from other football clubs & to be perfectly honest, ordinary Scottish people in general, wake the fu*k up n smell the coffee, why does it seem that the public at large across the country seem to be happy turning a blind eye at the moment, hopefully they’ll jump on the bandwagon hoping to have a go at Rangers (Whatever it takes to get them from their zombified state back into the real world) making some sort of noise, draw them out into the open see if we can have them calling for a fully independent public enquiry into Child Sexual Abuse in this country then slam dunk the fu*king lot of them.
I don’t care what it takes to get to the end goal which for me is finding out who knew & what did they do about CSA in Scottish football (for starters) over the last 5 decades, let the victims decide collectively what they require to give each & every one of them closure from their suffering & make everyone identified as a harbourer & enabler accountable & liable.
Finger pointing, hearsay & some dodgy point scoring cowardly headlines, bring it on, let’s go.
Ricksen
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Any celtic fan that still supports that club doesn’t give a shit about abused children. Their only concern is how to get away with it, which has been their mindset from the start.
The Ranger
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You are saying intelligent mentally challengeds then in the same breath calling someone a numpty that's not very intelligent
Southernlion
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So Dunn is alleged to have abused boys in England AND in Scotland. Likewise Cairney, or was it Torbett trafficked boys between the two.
It strikes me that any public enquiry must be by UK Parliament and not by a regional one.
Therefore stop fulminating about the collusion of the SNP and start targeting the other 600+ M.P.s.
It strikes me that any public enquiry must be by UK Parliament and not by a regional one.
Therefore stop fulminating about the collusion of the SNP and start targeting the other 600+ M.P.s.
Snoopproddiedogg
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Exactly, that mob are desperately trying to drag us into it, Rangers should be doing feck all just now. Don't know why posters are saying we should be doing the right thing etc, the right thing for what?
Ricksen
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Westminster has its hands full atm, and that’s not likely to change anytime soon.
bumped into a few guys i know when out and about last night out. They were at a charity event last night in ( the social) royal exchange square.
The guest speakers were Tam Cowan, Smudger, Frank mcgarvey, and some other ref. Apparently mcgarvey went up and didn’t do any funny stuff and just spoke about his life and went on to tell a big audience that he was abused in the showers by torbett. The guy told me everyone was mortified and the place just went quiet and tam Cowan got up and said some kind of joke to lighten the atmosphere. Just wondering if anyone was there and would like to verify this.
The guest speakers were Tam Cowan, Smudger, Frank mcgarvey, and some other ref. Apparently mcgarvey went up and didn’t do any funny stuff and just spoke about his life and went on to tell a big audience that he was abused in the showers by torbett. The guy told me everyone was mortified and the place just went quiet and tam Cowan got up and said some kind of joke to lighten the atmosphere. Just wondering if anyone was there and would like to verify this.
Kbhblue
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I might be completely wrong (and biased) but I've always felt that if one child rapist, never mind 6, was convicted of being guilty of child rape at Rangers, or Rangers directors past and present were being accused of a complicit cover-up and facilitation of child rape, it would be front page news on most media outlets (including the government's own news channel).
Recent headlines from the BBC like "Celtic agree to compensate ex-footballer" haven't changed my opinion. Celtic haven't agreed to anything. They were taken to court by one individual (hopefully soon to be a lot more) kicking and screaming, and lost. They have told family members of dead ex-employees who were raped as children that they never even played for the club. They have claimed there have never been any accusations of child rape at all. They have claimed the boys club was a seperate entity. They have then claimed that there have been enquiries (into a seperate entity), and the allegations were scullirious. They have made large payments to a convicted paedophile who directors have claimed never to have ever had dealings with, contrary to open records at company house.
This is going to be the biggest sporting scandal of all time in my opinion. Since it started to break in major news outlets this year I don't think there's many on here surprised that part of Celtic's strategy might be to try and paint this as a problem of Scottish Football in general (including employing a PR firm to facilitate this). Once again I should add this may be my biased opinion.
One thing I'm sure of though it is vitally important that we have an independent inquiry.
I genuinely don't know if children aren't being raped at Celtic now. I also don't know who to raise this issue with (apart from everyone). The British Government say it's a Scottish Government issue. The Scottish Government has said nothing about it, apart from excluding it from it's historical child abuse enquiries (and has also said nothing about a serving MSP admitting being fully aware child rape was going on, and said nothing about a serving MSP equating child rape to a tax payment scheme ). The Scottish Police are having Child Protection Summits in the same building where children were abused and 7 members of staff of an inextricably linked organisation have been convicted for paedophile offences. If I send a complaint in to the SFA or UEFA my letter may land on the desk of the financial controller at the time a 1 million+ payment was made to one of the convicted paedophiles. Most of the Scottish media don't seem to be interested wheras I personally can't see how this can't be front page news. I genuinely do not know if child rape is still going on at Celtic Park.
I honestly think (biased again) that nothing like that happened at Rangers. If it did we would surely know about it. If it did though, I would hope we would lead the way in compensating as much as possible anyone who had experienced such a crime. I hope most of us on here would think the same which is a big difference between them and everyone else.
I'm really not surprised to see an article like this but I hope it can strengthen the call for a full and independent enquiry led by someone outside Scotland and also if possible the UK.
Tick tock
Recent headlines from the BBC like "Celtic agree to compensate ex-footballer" haven't changed my opinion. Celtic haven't agreed to anything. They were taken to court by one individual (hopefully soon to be a lot more) kicking and screaming, and lost. They have told family members of dead ex-employees who were raped as children that they never even played for the club. They have claimed there have never been any accusations of child rape at all. They have claimed the boys club was a seperate entity. They have then claimed that there have been enquiries (into a seperate entity), and the allegations were scullirious. They have made large payments to a convicted paedophile who directors have claimed never to have ever had dealings with, contrary to open records at company house.
This is going to be the biggest sporting scandal of all time in my opinion. Since it started to break in major news outlets this year I don't think there's many on here surprised that part of Celtic's strategy might be to try and paint this as a problem of Scottish Football in general (including employing a PR firm to facilitate this). Once again I should add this may be my biased opinion.
One thing I'm sure of though it is vitally important that we have an independent inquiry.
I genuinely don't know if children aren't being raped at Celtic now. I also don't know who to raise this issue with (apart from everyone). The British Government say it's a Scottish Government issue. The Scottish Government has said nothing about it, apart from excluding it from it's historical child abuse enquiries (and has also said nothing about a serving MSP admitting being fully aware child rape was going on, and said nothing about a serving MSP equating child rape to a tax payment scheme ). The Scottish Police are having Child Protection Summits in the same building where children were abused and 7 members of staff of an inextricably linked organisation have been convicted for paedophile offences. If I send a complaint in to the SFA or UEFA my letter may land on the desk of the financial controller at the time a 1 million+ payment was made to one of the convicted paedophiles. Most of the Scottish media don't seem to be interested wheras I personally can't see how this can't be front page news. I genuinely do not know if child rape is still going on at Celtic Park.
I honestly think (biased again) that nothing like that happened at Rangers. If it did we would surely know about it. If it did though, I would hope we would lead the way in compensating as much as possible anyone who had experienced such a crime. I hope most of us on here would think the same which is a big difference between them and everyone else.
I'm really not surprised to see an article like this but I hope it can strengthen the call for a full and independent enquiry led by someone outside Scotland and also if possible the UK.
Tick tock
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Grigo Yossarian
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Div1872
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The Sun trying to link us with child abuse again
Defo Hollicom pulling the strings and using a pro mentally challenged minded “journalist” to blacken our name
These allegations need to be investigated but they will never be able prove if this abuse took place or not via courts as the alleged abusers are dead so it’s impossible to convict them now
Looks to me a campaign to try and get the SFA to pay compensation out of a central fund and not by individual clubs
Nonce FC have 6 convicted paedos all still alive who have been jailed or found guilty of CSA so they need to pay the 100 or so victims themselves
Rangers lawyers need to be sympathetic but cannot accept liability as it’s impossible to verify
Defo Hollicom pulling the strings and using a pro mentally challenged minded “journalist” to blacken our name
These allegations need to be investigated but they will never be able prove if this abuse took place or not via courts as the alleged abusers are dead so it’s impossible to convict them now
Looks to me a campaign to try and get the SFA to pay compensation out of a central fund and not by individual clubs
Nonce FC have 6 convicted paedos all still alive who have been jailed or found guilty of CSA so they need to pay the 100 or so victims themselves
Rangers lawyers need to be sympathetic but cannot accept liability as it’s impossible to verify
Multiple universe theory
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That’s been my point with my posts ricksen . They are a sub human species , brainwashed from birth but people need examples from daily interaction with them not just sound bytes.
I dont believe this
hammer-time
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Should Jock Stein be removed from the hall of fame?
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Jock Stein-Should he be removed from the SFA hall of fame?
I'm sure we all remember the fuss and hoo-ha when it was announced that Gazza would not be introduced into the hall of fame with media pundit after media pundit all having an opinion and some stating his behavior off the field meant he wasn't "worthy" of him being inducted so ,I then ask the...
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Grigo Yossarian
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There were 14 potential Paedophiles on a list given by Hugh Birt of Celtic BC to the club mate.
Additionally Gerry McSherry then pursued that same list with them.
He is correct.
Multiple universe theory
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Fair enough grigo
SenoraCuellar
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There was a rumour a few weeks ago on twitter a player was going to talk about his abuse and it would be a name everyone knew.
It would certainly fit into the car crash that became of his life
Multiple universe theory
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Don’t care if you don’t believe it . It’s true . Instead of being a critic why don’t you post something positive . P.s. are you saying I wasn’t abused as a child ? . You have no concept of what I went thru as a child . To come on here and say I am a liar after going through a nightmare is irresponsible and cowardly. It has taken many years of counselling and support to get me to where I am today. Do you know how many times I felt like topping myself. The only reason I decided to post on the forum was to share my past and present experiences . I foolishly thought it may be an indicator of what we are all up against regarding the great unwashed from the easts psyche in all of this . Blame myself for for being so fucking naive . All I want is justice which seems a pipe dream in this cesspit of a country .
Your wording in previous posts seems very strange. I think you’ll find that’s what people are picking up on. You also are insulting at times but yet you are sending pms to people.
Multiple universe theory
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Brilliant summing up .
Now and forever
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He was certainly charged and appeared at court.
Multiple universe theory
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I am so sorry I was insulting by using the word numpty bluenose94 . I will try not to use the word numpty ever again . Thanks for the feedback.
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Timskelper
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Well said mate. I couldn't agree with you more.
They're from a different planet to us. I wish they would go home to it.
I'm sorry but this is the internet.
I dont mean to offend anyone I just offered an opinion. I wont be offended if any random poster disagrees with anything I offer.
I think you come across as trying too hard.
Multiple universe theory
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Thanks for the feedback
Haining84
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He’s at it.
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Timskelper
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Good post my friend.
We all do whatever we can, if we can. Everyone's circumstances are different.
I wish you well and hope your health improves soon.
