He clearly has more money than sense. I for one would never plough money into this backwater. Something's not right, he's not doing that for nothing. I find it so annoying that our great Club is associated with this mess.
SPFL 'Positive' Talks with Anderson
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Walters80
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This must be the only league in the world where a club can attempt to buy itself out of a relegation spot with a “donation” by a fan. Seriously Uefa need to have a good look at this of it goes through.
Also what if they are allowed to stay up and finish bottom next season do they just reformat the league again next summer?
Also what if they are allowed to stay up and finish bottom next season do they just reformat the league again next summer?
High Society
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£9m over 7 years....
Wipe the spunk from your lips Doncaster,fukn cretin.The SPFL says it held a "positive discussion" on Monday morning with James Anderson over his "extremely generous" offer of financial support.
Chief executive Neil Doncaster and chairman Murdoch MacLennan had talks with the businessman, whose proposal is intended to help all 42 clubs.
Hearts owner Ann Budge told BBC Scotland on Saturday she had lined up benefactors keen to invest millions.
Doncaster hopes to progress Anderson's offer "as swiftly as possible".
He added: "The offer from James is an extremely generous one and we have committed to work together to quickly iron out the details and develop a concrete proposal which could make a significant difference to our 42 clubs."
SPFL hold 'positive' cash talks
The SPFL hold "positive initial discussion" with philanthropist James Anderson over his proposal to give financial support to all 42 clubs.www.bbc.co.uk
Barrymoped
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You can if you either swap it for equity at a later date like our benefactors.
Or if you want to go down the Man City approach then his company can pay way over the odds to sponsor them.
They claim it’s got zero conditions, specifically surrounding Hearts playing in the top tier, so what is it?
Possibly the thought of the lower leagues not starting at all? That could finish some clubs, including Hearts.
Wonder how much tax relief people receive on donations. He may also just be a front for Budge and a few other Hearts shareholders. If the championship doesn’t run and Hearts go bust I wonder how much it would personally impact them all. This might be a damage limitation exercise to avoid a bigger cost. Notice he has also gifted to many Scottish areas so in dream land it might be a genuine donation to keep the game from disaster
bearspakora
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If Hearts don't have a League to play in next season due to Championship clubs financially unable to fulfil fixtures, then Hearts are finished. Perhaps this financial offer to Championship clubs is to ensure Hearts can ultimately stay afloat ?
Baillie Gifford aren’t giving the SPFL anything. He is. From his personal finances. It’s just coincidence that’s the company he is a partner in. Not what I’d be doing with £10 million to be honest. But each to their own.
Coplandbear
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Links to Dermot Desmond and the mentally challengeds.
Couldn't make this shite up.
Couldn't make this shite up.
That makes sense.
No point in just putting the money into Hearts if they have no-one to play against. So put it into the other clubs as well to keep the whole thing afloat until Hearts can get back up to the top division.
I think some people are saying that shite is actually made up.
borderbluenose
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We have no sponsorship so why does he not sponsor the league with clear guidance on the money to be spent and an insistence we finish 2019-20 first?
bluetonic
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Pantomime season more like
Masterblue
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Insiders say his integrity is beyond reproach and he is far too credible to lay any conditions on his gift to clubs, which will be discussed by SPFL members in a series of meetings over the next 48 hours.
When you read that you just automatically say Aye right ye are!
When you read that you just automatically say Aye right ye are!
bearspakora
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This Anderson punter is making this offer, not for Scottish football's benefit, but for Hearts. Of that there is no doubt.
Does James Anderson know Sharon Mary Brown?
Sharon Mary Brown is a Non-executive Director of the Baillie Gifford Japan trust
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Sharon Mary Brown is a member of the Scottish Finance Directors Group and has been a non-executive Director at Celtic plc (Leisure and Recreation) since 2016
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astratt
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If as quoted he is a genuine businessman with Integrity, so do you really think he would be trusting the Corrupt Cabal at the SPFL . ?
ChildOfGoth
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That’s up for each person to consider I guess but it would be seen as a risk to the integrity of him and his employers reputation too Should it appear untoward to any individual.
Interesting
BoyInRoyalBlue
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It Is.
Anderson is legit, 1 million times over.
Just like his Hearts donations this will outwith Baillie Gifford completely.
tottie beck
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Surely you would need some sort of evidence before they would investigate?
Barrhead bear
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Any sympathy I had for Hearts is dead and buried...
Virgil Hilts
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I’m disgusted with Scottish football.
Thanks, it's good to hear some sense.
marvsbeliever
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But make sure it’s just enough to keep the others shite enough
Hanover_Loyal
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Scottish football is a total fukin embarrassment, run by fukin amateurs, stumbling from one farce to the next.
What next, Neil is talks with a Nigerian prince after receiving an email offering the SPFL $30M.
Just get these c**** to f***! Hearts or Rangers, please file your suits now and put an end to this shit-show.
What next, Neil is talks with a Nigerian prince after receiving an email offering the SPFL $30M.
Just get these c**** to f***! Hearts or Rangers, please file your suits now and put an end to this shit-show.
AlfiesBarnet
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Nows the time to interdict. Ensure that no club gets a penny of this for at least 2 years until the court decisions finalised.
Every club outside of Rangers in Scotland has to die. Only then shall they rediscover their empathy.
Every club outside of Rangers in Scotland has to die. Only then shall they rediscover their empathy.
bedsblue
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Does James Anderson know Sharon Mary Brown?
Sharon Mary Brown is a Non-executive Director of the Baillie Gifford Japan trust
The Baillie Gifford Japan Trust PLC: Shareholders Board Members Managers and Company Profile | GB0000485838 | MarketScreener
The Baillie Gifford Japan Trust PLC: Company profile, business summary, shareholders, managers, financial ratings, industry, sector and market information | London S.E.: BGFD | London S.E.www.marketscreener.com
Sharon Mary Brown is a member of the Scottish Finance Directors Group and has been a non-executive Director at Celtic plc (Leisure and Recreation) since 2016
Sharon Brown: Positions, Relations and Network - MarketScreener
Bourse : Cours de bourse en temps réel sur Actions, Indices, Forex, Matieres Premieres - Zonebourse.comwww.marketscreener.com
Her personal Network consists of the following:
Sharon Mary Brown: Personal Network
Name Linked companies Dermot Desmond Celtic plc Jonathan Harry Cartwright BMO Capital and Income Investment Trust PLC Ian Patrick Bankier Celtic plc Norman Stewart Hughson Lamont European Opportunities Trust plc Brian David Henderson Wilson Celtic plc Timothy Scholefield BMO Capital and Income Investment Trust PLC Andrew Lang Sutch European Opportunities Trust plc Philip Best European Opportunities Trust plc Peter Thomas Lawwell Celtic plc Thomas Eardley Allison Celtic plc
Guilty as charged.
djcamer
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What links mate.
johnredx
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Will be more interesting to see if Scumtic vote for it, that will say a lot.
bearspakora
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Hearts won't have a League to play in next season if other Championship clubs are unable to fulfil their fixtures. If Hearts can't play games and bring in money, they could then be in serious trouble. Is this financial offer to fund the Championship to ensure Hearts have opposition for next season ? Just a thought.
tottie beck
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I guess this’ll mean some ridiculous 14 team league next season and a minimum of 44 league games. If the domestic season is to start August and we are still playing in last seasons UEFA cup in August this could put us at a real disadvantage in terms of fixtures. Given the 2020-21 European fixtures are going to start later more games is the last thing we need
I hate to sound paranoid but they are fking us over already
I hate to sound paranoid but they are fking us over already
The money apparently comes with no strings attached. I can’t honestly see clubs like Dundee United , Hibs, county etc changing their votes on this.
Also the clubs who have come out and publicly stated they are against reconstruction all of a sudden change their vote. I honestly can’t see this happening.
Would you trust the SPFL to split the money? No chance.
If Hearts do stay in the division there would be increased pressure that this would need to be investigated as a bribe. It would also ask questions and implicate a number of clubs. Can you also expect Hibs to be happy with this decision? The SPFL would be turning more and more clubs against them - which in turn is good for us.
I can’t see it imo - I’m more on the side that Budge is being taken for another ride.
Also the clubs who have come out and publicly stated they are against reconstruction all of a sudden change their vote. I honestly can’t see this happening.
Would you trust the SPFL to split the money? No chance.
If Hearts do stay in the division there would be increased pressure that this would need to be investigated as a bribe. It would also ask questions and implicate a number of clubs. Can you also expect Hibs to be happy with this decision? The SPFL would be turning more and more clubs against them - which in turn is good for us.
I can’t see it imo - I’m more on the side that Budge is being taken for another ride.
IbroxForever
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There is so much wrong with this its hard to know where to start.
First thing that comes to mind is this is bribery, no matter how they try and sell this. The man who funds Hearts is paying clubs to vote Hearts way to stay in the top div.
The next thing it confirms Budge is just a front person, a puppet but a very bad one at that.
Also the way Hearts have been funded since there admin is so way beyond dodgy.
The most frightening thing about this is the fact it will be allowed.
The game is gone up here now, no attemt to hid the corruption.
First thing that comes to mind is this is bribery, no matter how they try and sell this. The man who funds Hearts is paying clubs to vote Hearts way to stay in the top div.
The next thing it confirms Budge is just a front person, a puppet but a very bad one at that.
Also the way Hearts have been funded since there admin is so way beyond dodgy.
The most frightening thing about this is the fact it will be allowed.
The game is gone up here now, no attemt to hid the corruption.
Sticky Fingers
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Insiders say his integrity is beyond reproach and he is far too credible to lay any conditions on his gift to clubs
And this very comment, above all others in the article is why this won’t ever ever be investigated and will be treated purely as a gentleman putting money into a loss making business solely for goodwill purposes. Nothing more than a man giving a business many millions for the absolute sake of it.
this isn’t some Barry Hearn style enterprise where he would invest or bring investors in and build up and popularise a product, this is a very wealthy man just giving his money away just to try and save one club and to help majorly benefit another.
absolute nonsense.
Big man, you want to give money away? Plenty of folk out there who need it, batter on in and help some of the homeless folk out there or some of the single mothers who can’t feed their kids because they can’t afford to look after them and work.
This SPFL mob genuinely think that the very people who keep it afloat are fucking idiots.
the sooner the whole organisation is razed to the ground the better, not in a literal sense of course. The sham should be disbanded as soon as possible.
And this very comment, above all others in the article is why this won’t ever ever be investigated and will be treated purely as a gentleman putting money into a loss making business solely for goodwill purposes. Nothing more than a man giving a business many millions for the absolute sake of it.
this isn’t some Barry Hearn style enterprise where he would invest or bring investors in and build up and popularise a product, this is a very wealthy man just giving his money away just to try and save one club and to help majorly benefit another.
absolute nonsense.
Big man, you want to give money away? Plenty of folk out there who need it, batter on in and help some of the homeless folk out there or some of the single mothers who can’t feed their kids because they can’t afford to look after them and work.
This SPFL mob genuinely think that the very people who keep it afloat are fucking idiots.
the sooner the whole organisation is razed to the ground the better, not in a literal sense of course. The sham should be disbanded as soon as possible.
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IbroxForever
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Should have added.
I would like to us release a statement saying we will not accept any of this money and consider it a bribe in order to get league changes.
I would like to us release a statement saying we will not accept any of this money and consider it a bribe in order to get league changes.
bigbluenose
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Hearts, are absolutely fine for money.
Foh put in 1.5/2 million a season James Anderson has given them 9 million and said he will back them for at least another 5 years.
I think the Mr Anderson just wants to help out Scottish football.
The only problem I see is he now has to deal with the spfl rats.
That's a huge problem for everyone
Alex Venters
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It's a bribe.
EndOfDays
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I remember a time corruption and bribes had to be kept quiet. These days they can do it openly and nobody apart from us bats an eyelid.
Only in Scotland could this play out:
Team are relegated
Team try and fail to reconstruct league
Fan of team gives money to league bosses
Reconstruction subsequently passes
Team not relegated
Laughing stock
Only in Scotland could this play out:
Team are relegated
Team try and fail to reconstruct league
Fan of team gives money to league bosses
Reconstruction subsequently passes
Team not relegated
Laughing stock
The OP sounds more likely to me, but we don't really have a lot to go on.
Bangersbc
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The SPFL says it held a "positive discussion" on Monday morning with James Anderson over his "extremely generous" offer of financial support.
Chief executive Neil Doncaster and chairman Murdoch MacLennan had talks with the businessman, whose proposal is intended to help all 42 clubs.
Hearts owner Ann Budge told BBC Scotland on Saturday she had lined up benefactors keen to invest millions.
Doncaster hopes to progress Anderson's offer "as swiftly as possible".
He added: "The offer from James is an extremely generous one and we have committed to work together to quickly iron out the details and develop a concrete proposal which could make a significant difference to our 42 clubs."
SPFL hold 'positive' cash talks
The SPFL hold "positive initial discussion" with philanthropist James Anderson over his proposal to give financial support to all 42 clubs.
Watch celtic offer Hayes and Erik contracts tomorrow. I know exactly how the money will be 'distributed' by the spfl!
Then what other clubs has he been investing in each season? He wants to help out Hearts and serve their interests.
That’s fine, but we all know exactly what this proposal is and who it is to help.
Barrymoped
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I’d say this is probably likely.
And as long as there genuinely is no strings attached in the form of reconstruction then I don’t have a problem with it.
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Ponientebear
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It was on life support some time ago, this latest farce only proves its time to switch the machine off.
It actually suits Doncaster and co.down to the ground as it not only provides them more bribe money to ensure their reconstruction goes through but keeps the crooks in a job because no one will take them to court.
djcamer
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Yip I agree it stinks.
Midfield General
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I would like to see what the offer is.Remember the reason our leagues are in this mess is because of the indecent rush of Doncaster,McLennan,McKenzie and Liewell to gift celtic the title.
Ideally we want rid of this cabal asap for not just our benefit but for the benefit of the rest of the game.
In the meanwhile if this offer can dilute their grip on the game I would take that for starters.
Ideally we want rid of this cabal asap for not just our benefit but for the benefit of the rest of the game.
In the meanwhile if this offer can dilute their grip on the game I would take that for starters.
