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Giving 50 points a season for registering for away tickets scheme and only giving TC members (who paid for the privilege of joining the TC) 5 points per point gained is a complete joke. TC folk who bought membership should have been rewarded better. Personally 5 points per point gained and 50 for joining the scheme. Dont forget the 'loyal' Euro travelling support helped push Rangers to win millions more in revenue (e.g Braga) than would have been won in any league title. At the end of the day Bears who travel regularly will still travel and get hold off home end tickets, which may possibly have flashpoint results in high profile/risk games.

Ultimately the Club have made the decision (would love to know who signed the final format off) and may in time come to realise that it needs some major surgery. It is a largely flawed scheme as of now as seen by many and as has been discussed on this thread already. It was designed to make as much revenue for the Club as possible, with loyalty secondary.
 
5 points for an away euro ticket , when a lot of these games such as Osijek were attended at short notice With no help from Rangers Travel club regarding transport or even Moscow when there was plenty of time to arrange flights but still we had to make our own arrangements at great expense is poor considering you get 50 points for ticking the domestic away ticket box to get sh!te games like Kilmarnock and Livingston every season.
 
Aww Skew said:
Simply because they know providing truthful answers will cause even more outrage. They simply want to avoid answering questions in the hope people simply give up asking them, it’s so transparent
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That’s exactly what it is mate,was being slightly sarcastic.
I think there will be a lot more in Gold than originally expected..maybe around 3,500-4,000
 
Taytos said:
5 points for an away euro ticket , when a lot of these games such as Osijek were attended at short notice With no help from Rangers Travel club regarding transport or even Moscow when there was plenty of time to arrange flights but still we had to make our own arrangements at great expense is poor considering you get 50 points for ticking the domestic away ticket box to get sh!te games like Kilmarnock and Livingston every season.
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Gibraltar was 5 days notice from memory, then Luxembourg/Denmark was 7 days apart. It’s actually hilarious when you step back and think how ridiculous it all is

Awaits the “ahhh but how much money do the club make from TC tickets”. Well, they got a £20 payment from 4000 people for a start which is more than is made directly from the away cccs

Only difference is that the £1 admin fee for each ticket is obviously much greater on away cccs than TC
 
Aww Skew said:
Gibraltar was 5 days notice from memory, then Luxembourg/Denmark was 7 days apart. It’s actually hilarious when you step back and think how ridiculous it all is

Awaits the “ahhh but how much money do the club make from TC tickets”. Well, they got a £20 payment from 4000 people for a start which is more than is made directly from the away cccs

Only difference is that the £1 admin fee for each ticket is obviously much greater on away cccs than TC
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50 points for giving money to clubs who wanted us dead but 5 points to go to games abroad where a lot of the time we are treated very well (ok not all the time but Denmark last season for example the hospitality was superb)
 
As it stands in this new ticket system, it pains me to say it but I'll most likely chuck European away games, there's not a chance I'm going to Luxembourg type match in July for a qualifying round then missing out on Braga in the last 32 because the demand is much higher, the concerns in this thread appear to be falling on deaf ears.

The club has made a fortune from MyGers, but they haven't rewarded anyone's loyality in the travel club, could have made an extra couple of quid by keeping the old TC along with MyGers.
 
Valley Bluenose said:
15% would be circa 3,600. I reckon that's roughly what it will be. 35% in Silver and 50% in Bronze.
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Won’t be far off at that, most away games with the exception of Celtic and Aberdeen there will be roughly 2,000 tickets available for MyGers members ..so if leaving some for Silver/Bronze you’ll probably find more than half the Gold Tier miss out on most games, so it’s not out the question if your not on the ball with the online sales that you could be in Gold Tier and end up wae ride all away tickets ..lol
 
Valley Bluenose said:
15% would be circa 3,600. I reckon that's roughly what it will be. 35% in Silver and 50% in Bronze.
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In which case, the notion it’ll be easier to get tickets is nul and void. You’ve went from a guaranteed 4/5 tickets a season to a first come, first served battle where you could potentially have a 1/4 chance of a ticket for some games.

Ohh but it’s allegedly fairer and our loyalty is being rewarded apparently...
 
Lanark Loyal said:
Won’t be far off at that, most away games with the exception of Celtic and Aberdeen there will be roughly 2,000 tickets available for MyGers members ..so if leaving some for Silver/Bronze you’ll probably find more than half the Gold Tier miss out on most games, so it’s not out the question if your not on the ball with the online sales that you could be in Gold Tier and end up wae ride all away tickets ..lol
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Its not out the realms of possibility that you could be in gold and end up with 1/2 tickets all season and there’ll be literally thousands in silver/bronze that don’t get any

But the commercial dept and the SLO want us to believe this is fairer haha. It’s actually laughable really
 
I appreciate the long responses from Greg and appreciate he isn’t the one calling the shots. I just want to know why he’s avoiding the situation surrounding the travel club and it’s previous members being absolutely shafted.
 
BlueAllOver said:
I appreciate the long responses from Greg and appreciate he isn’t the one calling the shots. I just want to know why he’s avoiding the situation surrounding the travel club and it’s previous members being absolutely shafted.
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Because they know it’s the wrong decision but they aren’t willing to accept responsibility and admit it was badly thought out.
 
BlueAllOver said:
I appreciate the long responses from Greg and appreciate he isn’t the one calling the shots. I just want to know why he’s avoiding the situation surrounding the travel club and it’s previous members being absolutely shafted.
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The standard response was focus groups thought it was a great idea.
 
das said:
The standard response was focus groups thought it was a great idea.
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Who attends these focus groups? Most guys I've spoke to about the travel club seem to think it's an awful decision to scrap it, even those in the gold tier.
 
Minkia said:
Someone posted that there were 47 non season ticket/CCCS games over the eligibility period.

Anyone know where I can find a list of all our games for each applicable season?

Unfortuntely, the purchase history doesn't give any indication of which games were CCCS and my memory isn't what it once was :(.
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I've make it 46, not sure which one I'm missing:

15/16

1. Burnley (21/07/15) FR
2. Peterhead (02/08/15) LC
3. St Johnstone (22/09/15) LC
4. Livingston (20/10/15) CC
5. St Mirren (28/11/15) CC
6. Cowdenbeath (10/01/16) SC
7. Kilmarnock (06/02/16) SC
8. Dundee (05/03/16) SC

16/17

9. Annan Athletic (19/07/16) LC
10. Stranraer (25/07/16) LC
11. Burnley (30/07/16) LC
12. Peterhead (09/08/16) LC
13. Queen of the South (20/09/16) LC
14. Motherwell (21/01/17) SC
15. Greenock Morton (12/02/17) SC
16. Hamilton (04/03/17) SC

17/18

17. Progres Niederkorn (29/06/17)
18. Marseille (22/07/17) FR
19. Dunfermline (09/08/18) LC
20. Falkirk (04/03/18) SC

18/19

21. Bury (06/07/18) FR
22. Shkupi (12/07/18) UEL
23. Wigan Athletic (29/07/18) FR
24. Osijek (02/08/18) UEL
25. Maribor (09/08/18) UEL
26. Ufa (23/08/18) UEL
27. Ayr United (26/09/18) LC
28. Rapid Wien (04/10/18) UEL
29. Spartak Moscow (25/10/18) UEL
30. Villarreal (29/11/18) UEL
31. HJK Helsinki (20/01/19) FR
32. Kilmarnock (20/02/19) SC

19/20

33. Oxford United (07/12/19) FR
34. Marseille (14/07/19) FR
35. St Joseph's (18/07/19) UEL
36. Blackburn (21/07/19) FR
37. Progres Niederkorn (25/07/19) UEL
38. Derby County (28/07/19) FR
39. Midtjylland (15/08/19) UEL
40. Legia Warsaw (29/08/19) UEL
41. Feyenoord (19/09/19) UEL
42. Porto (07/11/19) UEL
43. Young Boys (12/12/19)
44. Stranraer (17/01/20) SC
45. Braga (20/02/20) UEL
46. Bayer Leverkusen (12/03/20)
 
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Blaew said:
I've got 46, not sure which I'm missing:

15/16

1. Burnley (21/07/15) FR
2. Peterhead (02/08/15) LC
3. St Johnstone (22/09/15) LC
4. Livingston (20/10/15) CC
5. St Mirren (28/11/15) CC
6. Cowdenbeath (10/01/16) SC
7. Kilmarnock (06/02/16) SC
8. Dundee (05/03/16) SC

16/17

9. Annan Athletic (19/07/16) LC
10. Stranraer (25/07/16) LC
11. Burnley (30/07/16) LC
12. Peterhead (09/08/16) LC
13. Queen of the South (20/09/16) LC
14. Motherwell (21/01/17) SC
15. Greenock Morton (12/02/17) SC
16. Hamilton (04/03/17) SC

17/18

17. Progres Niederkorn (29/06/17)
18. Marseille (22/07/17) FR
19. Dunfermline (09/08/18) LC
20. Falkirk (04/03/18) SC

18/19

21. Bury (06/07/18) FR
22. Shkupi (12/07/18) UEL
23. Wigan Athletic (29/07/18) FR
24. Osijek (02/08/18) UEL
25. Maribor (09/08/18) UEL
26. Ufa (23/08/18) UEL
27. Ayr United (26/09/18) LC
28. Rapid Wien (04/10/18) UEL
29. Spartak Moscow (25/10/18) UEL
30. Villarreal (29/11/18) UEL
31. HJK Helsinki (20/01/19) FR
32. Kilmarnock (20/02/19) SC

19/20

33. Oxford United (07/12/19) FR
34. Marseille (14/07/19) FR
35. St Joseph's (18/07/19) UEL
36. Blackburn (21/07/19) FR
37. Progres Niederkorn (25/07/19) UEL
38. Derby County (28/07/19) FR
39. Midtjylland (15/08/19) UEL
40. Legia Warsaw (29/08/19) UEL
41. Feyenoord (19/09/19) UEL
42. Porto (07/11/19) UEL
43. Young Boys (12/12/19)
44. Stranraer (17/01/20) SC
45. Braga (20/02/20) UEL
46. Bayer Leverkusen (12/03/20)
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Looks like the Aberdeen cup replay in March 2019 bud
 
das said:
The standard response was focus groups thought it was a great idea.
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Theres feedback that was given at focus groups re how purchasing would work that evidently hasn’t been taken onboard by Greg or Natalie
 
Aww Skew said:
With the rolling period taking effect, they’d eventually get on the ladder same way as the TC.

I paid around £1k for my Moscow flights, hotel, visa and took the chance of a ticket when I was on very low TC points. I done so knowing I might’ve paid that £ and miss out on a ticket

However, with TC being updated on a rolling 3 year period it meant I knew if I keep applying/arranging travel over eventually I’ll work my way up to a point I’d be guaranteed a ticket
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But thats not going to be the way this scheme works you only get rewarded with points if successful so the next generation will never get in not because they dont want to they'll just never get the chance no if but or maybes about it lets be honest

How do you say to a child your not a worthy enough fan yet thats why you didn't get 1 but i did
 
Blaew said:
I've make it 46, not sure which one I'm missing:

15/16

1. Burnley (21/07/15) FR
2. Peterhead (02/08/15) LC
3. St Johnstone (22/09/15) LC
4. Livingston (20/10/15) CC
5. St Mirren (28/11/15) CC
6. Cowdenbeath (10/01/16) SC
7. Kilmarnock (06/02/16) SC
8. Dundee (05/03/16) SC

16/17

9. Annan Athletic (19/07/16) LC
10. Stranraer (25/07/16) LC
11. Burnley (30/07/16) LC
12. Peterhead (09/08/16) LC
13. Queen of the South (20/09/16) LC
14. Motherwell (21/01/17) SC
15. Greenock Morton (12/02/17) SC
16. Hamilton (04/03/17) SC

17/18

17. Progres Niederkorn (29/06/17)
18. Marseille (22/07/17) FR
19. Dunfermline (09/08/18) LC
20. Falkirk (04/03/18) SC

18/19

21. Bury (06/07/18) FR
22. Shkupi (12/07/18) UEL
23. Wigan Athletic (29/07/18) FR
24. Osijek (02/08/18) UEL
25. Maribor (09/08/18) UEL
26. Ufa (23/08/18) UEL
27. Ayr United (26/09/18) LC
28. Rapid Wien (04/10/18) UEL
29. Spartak Moscow (25/10/18) UEL
30. Villarreal (29/11/18) UEL
31. HJK Helsinki (20/01/19) FR
32. Kilmarnock (20/02/19) SC

19/20

33. Oxford United (07/12/19) FR
34. Marseille (14/07/19) FR
35. St Joseph's (18/07/19) UEL
36. Blackburn (21/07/19) FR
37. Progres Niederkorn (25/07/19) UEL
38. Derby County (28/07/19) FR
39. Midtjylland (15/08/19) UEL
40. Legia Warsaw (29/08/19) UEL
41. Feyenoord (19/09/19) UEL
42. Porto (07/11/19) UEL
43. Young Boys (12/12/19)
44. Stranraer (17/01/20) SC
45. Braga (20/02/20) UEL
46. Bayer Leverkusen (12/03/20)
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Only home Euro and friendly games qualify for points. You get block points per CCCS per season
 
Aww Skew said:
Sorry Greg, but it’s absolutely not a loyalty scheme then. Call a spade, a spade here.

1.You can’t say loyalty is rewarded when the way the scheme is designed, it’s conceivable that people who are on max points could miss out on games because it’s first come, first served.

2.Also, how can loyalty be rewarded when fans’ annual leave revolves around Rangers European games and they’ve now seen TC dissolve and even with double figure TC points, they’re in the Silver/Bronze tier

I agree with the principle of what the club have tried to do but this is different to what was pitched at the time. The club need to ditch the “loyalty is rewarded” tag line as it’s now apparent that even if you’re on the max 1556 points, 3. you’re no longer guaranteed a ticket for TC matches (you know yourself with the way TC games worked, the 15 or so fans on top points were always guaranteed their tickets)

I’ve probably went round in circles here but it’s frustrating that numerous people have raised key concerns on here yet no answers are forthcoming. I understand you’re probably limited to what you can say but it does appear to be political-esq answers for whatever reason
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1. In certain games they are guaranteed - Semis/FInals will be top down as with OF games and the potential for more to be done in that method. Remember that the general away games where its changed was a complete random ballot so gold and silver will have a better chance than last season of getting a ticket generally

2. A fans overall profile is now considered not just Euro away - there will be winners and losers from this.

3. Travel club I suspect will be top down or guaranteed tickets for Gold though it depends on how tight the allocation is - easier there as no RSC allocation in Europe to put more into the MyGers numbers
 
Chester Loyal said:
Why couldn’t it have been run as a top down loyalty scheme similar to our travel club?

People could apply for tickets and anyone who missed out due to not having enough points would get the points added to their total.

The travel club wasn’t a closed shop but it rewarded loyalty. The travel club took 2/3 years of constant applying/attending games to get to a high points total which (almost) guaranteed tickets for all games.

This scheme could’ve run exactly the same way.

The idea that someone on max points in gold might not get a ticket but someone in bronze on 1 point might get a ticket makes a mockery of the whole thing.
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Top-down only becomes a closed shop with the number of fans we have. Points on application continues the trend of insincere applications which we have seen in our Euro trips many times.
 
Aww Skew said:
Theres feedback that was given at focus groups re how purchasing would work that evidently hasn’t been taken onboard by Greg or Natalie
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Feedback can be taken on board without it changing the decision.

We had one fan adamant that friendlies shouldn't be included but because we disagreed didn't mean we didn't listen to his opinion and evaluate the position.

Feedback helps formulate decisions - it doesn't make the decision
 
Greg Marshall said:
Feedback can be taken on board without it changing the decision.

We had one fan adamant that friendlies shouldn't be included but because we disagreed didn't mean we didn't listen to his opinion and evaluate the position.

Feedback helps formulate decisions - it doesn't make the decision
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Fair point but isn’t it true that there was almost unanimous agreement at the first focus group in the board room that there was concerns about first come, first served?

The point of focus groups is to gather feedback and if common responses are raised, or if participants agree on points, it’s a prompt to go back and consider if it should change.
 
Greg Marshall said:
1. In certain games they are guaranteed - Semis/FInals will be top down as with OF games and the potential for more to be done in that method. Remember that the general away games where its changed was a complete random ballot so gold and silver will have a better chance than last season of getting a ticket generally

2. A fans overall profile is now considered not just Euro away - there will be winners and losers from this.

3. Travel club I suspect will be top down or guaranteed tickets for Gold though it depends on how tight the allocation is - easier there as no RSC allocation in Europe to put more into the MyGers numbers
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You can’t actually believe that it’s fair to now offer people who have never attended a European away game a ticket above people who have gone on many trips over the years?It’s pretty scandalous, and a slap in the face to many who have spent vast sums of money over the years.
 
BlueAllOver said:
I appreciate the long responses from Greg and appreciate he isn’t the one calling the shots. I just want to know why he’s avoiding the situation surrounding the travel club and it’s previous members being absolutely shafted.
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Mate what have I avoided?

The club made the decision to reflect collective loyalty including all aspects of match attendance.

There are very few non-ST holding travel club fans on high TC points - I appreciate their frustration and keen to look at options but generally those who travel most are high points ST holders
 
Greg Marshall said:
1. In certain games they are guaranteed - Semis/FInals will be top down as with OF games and the potential for more to be done in that method. Remember that the general away games where its changed was a complete random ballot so gold and silver will have a better chance than last season of getting a ticket generally

2. A fans overall profile is now considered not just Euro away - there will be winners and losers from this.

3. Travel club I suspect will be top down or guaranteed tickets for Gold though it depends on how tight the allocation is - easier there as no RSC allocation in Europe to put more into the MyGers numbers
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Re point 3 - how can it be top down when there’s people of high historic TC points in the Bronze and Silver tiers

Point 3 alone shows yous are making it up as you go along tbh

Re point 1, that’s untrue. The first come, first served means it’s conceivable fans might get 0 tickets as they could get beaten in the rush. The old scheme guaranteed 4/5 tickets which is fairer
 
Aww Skew said:
Well, I know of people from the south of England - they find it much easier to get to Euro trips than domestic aways as they would then need the next day off work whereas for euro trips it’s a holiday

It’s always been separate but now you’ve got a situation whereby they’ve spent £000s accumulating high points for well over a decade and they could miss out on a popular euro trip because they’re bronze. No one can tell me that is fair
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Well over a decade?

We literally didn't have a single euro away game for 6 full years.
 
Greg Marshall said:
Feedback can be taken on board without it changing the decision.

We had one fan adamant that friendlies shouldn't be included but because we disagreed didn't mean we didn't listen to his opinion and evaluate the position.

Feedback helps formulate decisions - it doesn't make the decision
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How many are in each tier?

How is it going to be managed when tickets go on sale, will it be a free for all for each tier or different windows for higher points in each tier like the way the travel club operates?

Are you taking the negative feedback regarding the travel club back to the focus group?
 
Aww Skew said:
Re point 3 - how can it be top down when there’s people of high historic TC points in the Bronze and Silver tiers

Point 3 alone shows yous are making it up as you go along tbh
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Mate, the travel club and it's points are gone, no idea why you keep harking back to it as if it's somehow relevent now.
 
BlueAllOver said:
You can’t actually believe that it’s fair to now offer people who have never attended a European away game a ticket above people who have gone on many trips over the years?It’s pretty scandalous, and a slap in the face to many who have spent vast sums of money over the years.
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Fan 1 goes only to Euro away games.

Fan 2 goes to every friendly game, cup game and league match.

I would argue fan 2 would earn the right to be able to go to the odd Euro away game if he chooses.

Obviously a bit of simplified example but you must appreciate there is an argument for a view other than your own.
 
Greg Marshall said:
Mate what have I avoided?

The club made the decision to reflect collective loyalty including all aspects of match attendance.

There are very few non-ST holding travel club fans on high TC points - I appreciate their frustration and keen to look at options but generally those who travel most are high points ST holders
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I see you’ve now responded, I do appreciate that it’s never going to please everyone but surely it can be seen that people are pissed about the TC situation - as you can see I’m one of them.
 
EndOfDays said:
Mate, the travel club and it's points are gone, no idea why you keep harking back to it as if it's somehow relevent now.
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Because the club have months to consider opinions, Greg himself has already admitted it’s not perfect and there’ll be some tweaks

I suppose we could all be happy clappers and just pretend the new scheme is wonderful
 
vanbasten said:
How many are in each tier?

How is it going to be managed when tickets go on sale, will it be a free for all for each tier or different windows for higher points in each tier like the way the travel club operates?

Are you taking the negative feedback regarding the travel club back to the focus group?
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Club hasn't announced individual tier numbers yet.

Read the FAQ as it depends on which game/circumstance.

We don't have a focus group that makes decisions on this - the club do.
 
Theres a half dozen folk giving ‘negative feedback’ and I’d guess double treble or more sat shrugging at the chaos as they go to matches ?
 
I do appreciate
Greg Marshall said:
Fan 1 goes only to Euro away games.

Fan 2 goes to every friendly game, cup game and league match.

I would argue fan 2 would earn the right to be able to go to the odd Euro away game if he chooses.

Obviously a bit of simplified example but you must appreciate there is an argument for a view other than your own.
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I do appreciate and thing that’s fair, but take my situation for example. ST holder for 4 years, signed up to every scheme in those 4 years, barely missed a domestic away game in 6 years now, and on 7 TC points. I’m in silver and now won’t get a euro away ticket for the bigger games where previously I would have.
 
EndOfDays said:
Well over a decade?

We literally didn't have a single euro away game for 6 full years.
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I was taking it back to 2010/11 season but that would’ve been easy to understand if you were in the TC considering that season was included in the initial points for the first progres game
 
BlueAllOver said:
I see you’ve now responded, I do appreciate that it’s never going to please everyone but surely it can be seen that people are pissed about the TC situation - as you can see I’m one of them.
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I maybe get a bit annoyed at taking time on my days off to be told that I'm ignoring stuff. - I'm one person I can't answer every single point repeatedly
 
BlueAllOver said:
I do appreciate

I do appreciate and thing that’s fair, but take my situation for example. ST holder for 4 years, signed up to every scheme in those 4 years, barely missed a domestic away game in 6 years now, and on 7 TC points. I’m in silver and now won’t get a euro away ticket for the bigger games where previously I would have.
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I wouldn't be so sure that you will miss out.
 
Greg Marshall said:
Fan 1 goes only to Euro away games.

Fan 2 goes to every friendly game, cup game and league match.

I would argue fan 2 would earn the right to be able to go to the odd Euro away game if he chooses.

Obviously a bit of simplified example but you must appreciate there is an argument for a view other than your own.
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Mate, cmon.. How many fans do you reckon only go to European away matches? I honestly can't think of one friend who only attends Euro matches.

It's the same faces you see everywhere, and some of them will most likely miss out in this new ticket system.

The club have effectively replaced a near perfect system for European away matches with a worse one, its actually ridiculous.
 
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