The Winter 2020/21 Transfer Window Rumours and Deals - Thread

ssblue said:
From what I have seen of them none of them start in our first choice team.

Still, if they are free, transfer fee wise.
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Davies is better than Katic and Edmundson.

Lundstram would be pushing to be a starter. Having players like him and Johnston in the squad right now when we have Jack and Arfield out injured would be perfect.

Wright would be a better option than Jones and Stewart for a fraction of their combined wages.

We need to continually improve the squad.
 
Brox 'n' Bling said:
Imo, if we could sign both Scott Wright and Daniel Johnson on pre contracts and get them both in this window that would be a good january window for us. I think it was evident the Motherwell game that we haven't got a midfielder who is willing to shoot from outside the box. Johnson is the exact type of player we need.
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is he, I wasn’t aware he was a long shot specialist as all his goals this season have been penalties. I know he does have a decent shot, but there is a difference when playing for Rangers.

Kent & Hagi can shoot from outside the area (albeit poorly, particularly Kent).

A lot of the time we don’t shoot from outside the area is because it would just hit off the 10 man wall & surrender possession.

I do agree on occasions we could shoot more (Davis & Aribo mainly) but I never get overly fussed, Aribo against Aberdeen is the only time it’s annoyed me.

For what it’s worth, I actually quite like the look of him & think he could be a useful addition on a pre-contract. I’d be surprised if we signed him though.

He looks like he could fill the Aribo role when he’s off form, but even then Aribo isn’t a nailed on starter.

Shows how strong our squad is.
 
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If he has indeed knocked-back £17k pw then Davies is not going to come to us to be 3rd of 4th centre-half.
Not against signing him, but that would make more sense if they expected Goldson to leave this summer.
 
Forth Bear said:
Davies is better than Katic and Edmundson.

Lundstram would be pushing to be a starter. Having players like him and Johnston in the squad right now when we have Jack and Arfield out injured would be perfect.

Wright would be a better option than Jones and Stewart for a fraction of their combined wages.

We need to continually improve the squad.
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Never said we didn't.

Squad builders on free transfers are fine.
 
Gramps1 said:
Am talking about winning the league to get into the champions league qualifiers.
We’ve no won anything yet.
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Champions League qualification is possible regardless, but fair enough.

I don't think we need to sign anyone personally, and it'll be interesting to see what approach we take. It's a very quiet window.
 
Forth Bear said:
Davies is better than Katic and Edmundson.

Lundstram would be pushing to be a starter. Having players like him and Johnston in the squad right now when we have Jack and Arfield out injured would be perfect.

Wright would be a better option than Jones and Stewart for a fraction of their combined wages.

We need to continually improve the squad.
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Great Post.
 
strider said:
Champions League qualification is possible regardless, but fair enough.

I don't think we need to sign anyone personally, and it'll be interesting to see what approach we take. It's a very quiet window.
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I would agree with this, especially with our injured lads returning soon.

Any more signings become pointless, the squad will just get bloated & people won’t get minutes. I think Wright will come in & a pre-contract or two.

Hopefully seem dead wood goes out too.
 
Forth Bear said:
Davies is better than Katic and Edmundson.

Lundstram would be pushing to be a starter. Having players like him and Johnston in the squad right now when we have Jack and Arfield out injured would be perfect.

Wright would be a better option than Jones and Stewart for a fraction of their combined wages.

We need to continually improve the squad.
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Lundstram would be coming in as an automatic starter imo. Wages we'd need to pay him he would be coming as a key player that plays when fit like Roofe this season.
Can't comment on others as don't watch much of Championship.
 
erskine bear said:
I would agree with this, especially with our injured lads returning soon.

Any more signings become pointless, the squad will just get bloated & people won’t get minutes. I think Wright will come in & a pre-contract or two.

Hopefully seem dead wood goes out too.
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I’d prefer these players in now bloating the squad than playing players out of position because we’ve got injuries.
Still think we will loan/sell at least 4 these 3 coming in would strengthen the squad massively.
 
Gramps1 said:
I’d prefer these players in now bloating the squad than playing players out of position because we’ve got injuries.
Still think we will loan/sell at least 4 these 3 coming in would strengthen the squad massively.
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Jack is back, Roofe & Arfield returning very soon. It makes no sense, financially or in terms of depth to add more bodies IMO.

We’ve missed those players & not played anyone out of position, by all means get them in on pre-contracts but they aren’t required just now.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think we will go for any of them.
 
Craig McColl said:
Lundstram would be coming in as an automatic starter imo. Wages we'd need to pay him he would be coming as a key player that plays when fit like Roofe this season.
Can't comment on others as don't watch much of Championship.
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Considering he's on less than £10k a week right now, no one knows what wage be would come in on.
 
erskine bear said:
Jack is back, Roofe & Arfield returning very soon. It makes no sense, financially or in terms of depth to add more bodies IMO.

We’ve missed those players & not played anyone out of position, by all means get them in on pre-contracts but they aren’t required just now.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think we will go for any of them.
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See if you can guarantee no injuries from now till the end of the season I’d agree.
We played Aribo as a CM
 
Gramps1 said:
See if you can guarantee no injuries from now till the end of the season I’d agree.
We played Aribo as a CM
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Aribo is a CM.

Your whole point is based on a hypothetical, can you guarantee we will get injuries?.

It makes no sense to bring in additional bodies whilst they aren’t required, If Gerrard does then great. We all love a signing :))

I’m just not expecting any, other than Wright.
 
erskine bear said:
Jack is back, Roofe & Arfield returning very soon. It makes no sense, financially or in terms of depth to add more bodies IMO.

We’ve missed those players & not played anyone out of position, by all means get them in on pre-contracts but they aren’t required just now.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think we will go for any of them.
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When will Arfield be back EB ? Maybe 4 weeks from now ?

And will Jack stay fit, or need protected ?

Do we want to say save 400k and put the big prize at risk ?

Not for me. I’d like another energetic / quality midfielder.
 
Boab4 said:
Considering he's on less than £10k a week right now, no one knows what wage be would come in on.
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He's played in EPL for 2 seasons he's not coming unless it's 25k a week and a decent signing on fee at least. Let's be honest he would need to be 1 of the highest paid players at the club.
If PNE are offering those 2 boys 17 k a week he'll be able to get more.
 
Grigo Yossarian said:
When will Arfield be back EB ? Maybe 4 weeks from now ?

And will Jack stay fit, or need protected ?

Do we want to say save 400k and put the big prize at risk ?

Not for me. I’d like another energetic / quality midfielder.
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Again, this line is based on a hypothetical that Jack will get injured.

Right now he isn’t injured, so we shouldn’t be bringing in any additional bodies in that area, like I said I will be surprised if we bring in a midfielder mate.

I’m content with the squad as it is.
 
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If Jack is back then we have 5 senior midfielders plus Barjonas and the young lad that played in the cup v Falkirk, with our cushion that should do.

I would be keeping an eye on John Fleck’s situation if Sheff U go down, might be worth a conversation. Would actually help towards our “club-grown” players for Europe next year as well.
 
Craig McColl said:
He's played in EPL for 2 seasons he's not coming unless it's 25k a week and a decent signing on fee at least. Let's be honest he would need to be 1 of the highest paid players at the club.
If PNE are offering those 2 boys 17 k a week he'll be able to get more.
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He's played in the premiership for 2 years now and is on 8 grand a week. You have absolutely no clue about how much he would come for :))
 
Grigo Yossarian said:
When will Arfield be back EB ? Maybe 4 weeks from now ?

And will Jack stay fit, or need protected ?

Do we want to say save 400k and put the big prize at risk ?

Not for me. I’d like another energetic / quality midfielder.
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A signing wouldn't guarantee anything either though. Takes most players a bit of time to settle in at a new club, so you'd have that as a strong potential factor.

If there's no midfielder available this month who we would be looking at keeping longer term, we shouldn't sign anyone. Our squad is very strong as it is.
 
Boab4 said:
He's played in the premiership for 2 years now and is on 8 grand a week. You have absolutely no clue about how much he would come for :))
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And either do you if you think he couldn't get at least 25k a week down south and will come up here for anything like 8 k a week.
 
Craig McColl said:
He's played in EPL for 2 seasons he's not coming unless it's 25k a week and a decent signing on fee at least. Let's be honest he would need to be 1 of the highest paid players at the club.
If PNE are offering those 2 boys 17 k a week he'll be able to get more.
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Joe Aribo is on ten times as much as he was on at charlton after coming to us on a Bosman.

You’re taking £25k per week minimum for Lundstram imo
 
Gramps1 said:
Ah hope this lead we’ve got doesn’t make the board think we can hold off till the summer.
That’s been the poets biggest mistake.

This is just my opinion we need Wright and Johnson in for options to play against these packed defences,bringing Barker on when we needed a goal last week was unbelievable.

Lundrstum can wait till the summer.
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i would be hoping we would be able to attract better players then johnston if we win the league and
the chance for players to be in the champions league

3 goals and 3 assists for this season is not great and is he not there penalty kick taker
 
Boab4 said:
Who said he would come here for £8k? I said he currently receives £8k.
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If he signs he will be in the top pay bracket at the club. His 8k a wages are a legacy of lower league deal and Utd taking up a clause that has obviously pissed him off. He ain't even answering the phone if the offer isn't in the 20k a week plus range imo.
 
Grigo Yossarian said:
Agree Gramps. A false economy mate.
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The Board have been brave in their investment and transfer dealings.

Given how close we are to a title, I can't see them baulking now if the manager wants to bring in a player - within reason, of course.

I would like to bolster the midfield also. A burst of freshness for the remainder of this campaign with an eye on next season.

A win against Antwerp could cover the cost.
 
Saltire said:
Is he really worth that? I'd be looking at a younger player with potential sell-on value for that kind of money, an Aribo kind of transfer.
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I don’t know an awful lot about him, people are suggesting he could be Arfield’s replacement & if that’s the case I’d be fine.

He is 26 & Scotty is going on 33, we need succession planning. That said, people who watch him more than me can tell you if that’s value for money!.
 
strider said:
A signing wouldn't guarantee anything either though. Takes most players a bit of time to settle in at a new club, so you'd have that as a strong potential factor.

If there's no midfielder available this month who we would be looking at keeping longer term, we shouldn't sign anyone. Our squad is very strong as it is.
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I think there's a reasonable argument for getting someone in with a view to having them bed in before the champions league qualifiers mate.
But I also appreciate the financial situation at the moment,particularly given we didn't sell Alfie to balance the books in the summer gone past.
 
Boab4 said:
Hopefully we aren't phoning him then. He's not worth £25k a week.
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Not a market I would shop in as I think theres better value elsewhere. But maybe they think he could be a long-term replacement for Arfield with little or no risk with what we're getting unlike a foreign bought player who has language barriers and settling into new country etc.
 
erskine bear said:
is he, I wasn’t aware he was a long shot specialist as all his goals this season have been penalties. I know he does have a decent shot, but there is a difference when playing for Rangers.

Kent & Hagi can shoot from outside the area (albeit poorly, particularly Kent).

A lot of the time we don’t shoot from outside the area is because it would just hit off the 10 man wall & surrender possession.

I do agree on occasions we could shoot more (Davis & Aribo mainly) but I never get overly fussed, Aribo against Aberdeen is the only time it’s annoyed me.

For what it’s worth, I actually quite like the look of him & think he could be a useful addition on a pre-contract. I’d be surprised if we signed him though.

He looks like he could fill the Aribo role when he’s off form, but even then Aribo isn’t a nailed on starter.

Shows how strong our squad is.
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I'm not taking anything away from what yer likes of Davis and Kamara brings to the team but there are times they get in a decent position to have a shot but there seems a reluctancy. I think on occasions we can be guilty of being too side to side and trying to pass through ten men which can be just as difficult.

We have a manager who made a career of shooting outside the box. I think Johnson isn't afraid to hit one and has a decent shot on him. Im not saying he's the next Albertz or specialist of that type but he would add that option of shooting outside the box from our play when there seems a reluctancy just now.

I dont think he's a good player just based on his shooting. I think he has a lot more to him than that and think he would be a good signing.
 
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erskine bear said:
Again, this line is based on a hypothetical that Jack will get injured.

Right now he isn’t injured, so we shouldn’t be bringing in any additional bodies in that area, like I said I will be surprised if we bring in a midfielder mate.

I’m content with the squad as it is.
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Its all about opinions mate.

To me, we have proven that we need six midfielders. SG seems to think that too.

With that in mind, look at Benfica, look at the enemy when we were short.

Im thinking cost against risk.

We don’t know if Jack will stay fit, but what we do know is that if he doesn’t stay fit, and if Arfield doesn’t heal quickly we have added a risk to 55, and to CL qualification thereby.

Im not for waiting to February or March to find that out when we can’t react.
 
cav said:
I think there's a reasonable argument for getting someone in with a view to having them bed in before the champions league qualifiers mate.
But I also appreciate the financial situation at the moment,particularly given we didn't sell Alfie to balance the books in the summer gone past.
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I'm never against signing a player who will improve us, so if it was someone we were intent on keeping, then great.

If it was another Andy King type that we had no intention of keeping, even if they were to be better than he was, I don't think it's worth it for the financial reasons you mention.
 
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Ted Rangers said:
25k is a guess, however it is equal to 2.5m fee and 13k a week for 4 years. He'd certainly be worth that.
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The only thing that is a concern, as someone seemed to suggest earlier, would be his settling in etc. We would need any signing to make an immediate impact, at this present time.
 
Grigo Yossarian said:
Its all about opinions mate.

To me, we have proven that we need six midfielders. SG seems to think that too.

With that in mind, look at Benfica, look at the enemy when we were short.

Im thinking cost against risk.

We don’t know if Jack will stay fit, but what we do know is that if he doesn’t stay fit, and if Arfield doesn’t heal quickly we have added a risk to 55, and to CL qualification thereby.

Im not for waiting to February or March to find that out when we can’t react.
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I have to say this is my underlying feeling.
 
Ted Rangers said:
25k is a guess, however it is equal to 2.5m fee and 13k a week for 4 years. He'd certainly be worth that.
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Remember there’s usually a sizeable sign on fee needed to attract someone on a bosman. I don’t know enough about the guy to determine whether it would be good business or not.
 
Grigo Yossarian said:
Its all about opinions mate.

To me, we have proven that we need six midfielders. SG seems to think that too.

With that in mind, look at Benfica, look at the enemy when we were short.

Im thinking cost against risk.

We don’t know if Jack will stay fit, but what we do know is that if he doesn’t stay fit, and if Arfield doesn’t heal quickly we have added a risk to 55, and to CL qualification thereby.

Im not for waiting to February or March to find that out when we can’t react.
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Fair enough Grigo, for once we disagree :))
 
BrooklynBlue said:
The Board have been brave in their investment and transfer dealings.

Given how close we are to a title, I can't see them baulking now if the manager wants to bring in a player - within reason, of course.

I would like to bolster the midfield also. A burst of freshness for the remainder of this campaign with an eye on next season.

A win against Antwerp could cover the cost.
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I think the most likely transfer activity would be a loan to buy. That's the deal we did this time last year for Hagi. That defers payment and hopefully would have an option to cancel the buy option depending on performance.
 
BrooklynBlue said:
The Board have been brave in their investment and transfer dealings.

Given how close we are to a title, I can't see them baulking now if the manager wants to bring in a player - within reason, of course.

I would like to bolster the midfield also. A burst of freshness for the remainder of this campaign with an eye on next season.

A win against Antwerp could cover the cost.
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Exactly with you BB.

We have something special in our grasp, and yet some want to take the risk on Jack & Arfield’s fitness, which puts risk into 55, which means so much to us all.
 
Saltire said:
Remember there’s usually a sizeable sign on fee needed to attract someone on a bosman. I don’t know enough about the guy to determine whether it would be good business or not.
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True, so maybe closer to a 3.5m equivalent fee. Then there's agents etc. No transfer is really a free transfer. Tough call, but we do need to invest in a midfielder. The recruitment has been very good under Wilson though.
 
Johnson is one that I'd leave, he will almost be 29 by the time he joins and isn't good enough to warrant a spot in our squad imo.

Davies being a left footed CB is a massive plus, I do think we would need to offload Katic and Edmundson to make it work though. Goldson, Helander, Balogun and Davies would be a brilliant list of options.

Even if Jack and Arfield were fit all the time, we would still need more options in midfield. This is something I consider a priority even in this window, it would get players bedded in for UCL qualification.
 
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