I know nothing's definite but imo Kent is possibly the one player that will attract a topWe’d been saying similar about Morelos for years.
It is not as definite as that.
club to pay that amount.
I know nothing's definite but imo Kent is possibly the one player that will attract a topWe’d been saying similar about Morelos for years.
It is not as definite as that.
This is the reality. Players form fluctuates as well. Kent and Alfie for example were pretty stale for many games in the first half of the season .Ross Wilson did say we don't need to sell but there will obviously come a time when we do sell. Every player has their price.
Youre being too unrealistic both in terms of the financials but more importantly the team itself.Or am I being too hopeful we can keep all our main assets like Helander, Barisic, Kamara, Hagi, Morelos and Kent for next season as well?
It literally is as definite as that.We’d been saying similar about Morelos for years.
It is not as definite as that.
This is spot on but also we have brought players here with the promise of first team football , playing in Europe , winners medals but also the chance to then get a big move the the EPL we have got to be realistic and realise players will want to move on for there careers and if we can be seen to help players do this then it will encourage more young up and coming stars to follow the same path and make us a very attractive option to sign withNo and it is a mistake to not sell. We need to sell players at their peak value or we will watch them drop consistently and end up losing out on more money than we can afford to lose.
Definitely. Look what's happened to the alleged value of Edouard, Ajer, Mcgregor., ntcham on the dark side.No and it is a mistake to not sell. We need to sell players at their peak value or we will watch them drop consistently and end up losing out on more money than we can afford to lose.
So, let me get this right.It literally is as definite as that.
An actual bid of £25m may not be definite, but it one does come in for Kent or Morelos then they are 100% gone and the club will have done a fantastic job.
Obviously we can’t predict a bid, but in the scenario where someone comes in with £20-25m for certain players, then they will definitely be gone.So, let me get this right.
It literally is definite, but may not be definite, but if it does, they’re 100% (as definite as it gets) gone?
I’m confused.
There is different ways to look at this though.No and it is a mistake to not sell. We need to sell players at their peak value or we will watch them drop consistently and end up losing out on more money than we can afford to lose.
Well, there have been many nut jobs regarding fees for Morelos in particular in nearly every previous window.Obviously we can’t predict a bid, but in the scenario where someone comes in with £20-25m for certain players, then they will definitely be gone.
You’d be a nutjob to think otherwise.
£16m wasn’t enough though.Well, there have been many nut jobs regarding fees for Morelos in particular in nearly every previous window.
Champions league entry would help massivelyOr am I being too hopeful we can keep all our main assets like Helander, Barisic, Kamara, Hagi, Morelos and Kent for next season as well?
There will be an absolutely biblical meltdown on here.In a bizarre sort of way I actually want us to sell to see how we cope with it.
I think it’s important at this stage to begin operating from a position of self sufficiency.
If we sell Morelos for £20m for example then bring in another three players with the money while also attending to the deficit and that trio of additions actually improve us overall, it’ll be a big step towards our medium to long term stability.
It’s also true to say that you really need to sell from a position of strength to maximise your assets. Look at the depreciation the Yahoos have seen on their biggest players in the last twelve months.
Nothing surer, but we need to be grown up about this. It’s not the 1990s anymore. We’re a selling club now and as a support we need to start getting our heads around that.There will be an absolutely biblical meltdown on here.
Part of the problem with valuations on players is the fact we are in Scotland. The same player here and in England has 2 different values and there is almost a ceiling on what players in Scotland cost. Hopefully we can start pushing that ceiling upwards.There is different ways to look at this though.
How do you know when peak value has been reached?
Look at Kent just now.
Is he going to get better?
I’d bet he is, of course he is, but how much and when?
Also, could Kent be the difference between reaching the CL or not?
What is his value before that event and after?
Exactly this, I think we will make good money on a couple of players from Helander, Barasic, Kamara, Kent, Morelos, any two from these plus fringe players to ease financial pressure and get in replacements to freshen things up.No and it is a mistake to not sell. We need to sell players at their peak value or we will watch them drop consistently and end up losing out on more money than we can afford to lose.
I’m realistic enough.£16m wasn’t enough though.
Do you think he’d still be here if Lille came in with £22/23m for him?
I think we need a dose of realism in regards to this.
We’ve created a good base to do just that with our decent European runs.Part of the problem with valuations on players is the fact we are in Scotland. The same player here and in England has 2 different values and there is almost a ceiling on what players in Scotland cost. Hopefully we can start pushing that ceiling upwards.
The problem being that CL qualification runs very close to the end of the transfer windows most seasons. Losing a key player at that point would be an absolute bugger. Lose one before the qualification process is also a bugger of course.I think we’d need the guarantee of CL football which we don’t have.
Well, to be fair, the directors have told you, directly, that it will need to happen and we are still borrowing money season on season to get by. I am a little at a loss as to how you fail to see the need in the face of that. The people literally running the club have told you it clearly.I dont see the need
but if we do, we need to get a player that is better than the player leaving.....
I must of missed this part.....Well, to be fair, the directors have told you, directly, that it will need to happen and we are still borrowing money season on season to get by. I am a little at a loss as to how you fail to see the need in the face of that. The people literally running the club have told you it clearly.