We went over this about half an hour ago mate. I said nothing about the UK being systemiclly racist... you just want to take things and chuck a thing on, and hurl another bit here, and we will stick a couple of tentacles on a horse, and we will give a giraffe 3 tits, it is actually pretty simple, just read what I actually say not what you think I have said or want to readYou mentioned systematic change.
I asked if you were implying the UK was systematically racist.
You seemed confused at where id got that from.
I've been trying to show you where I got it from.
My opinion is the UK is one of the least racist countries in the world. The demand for racism far outstrips the supply. Thats not to say attitudes of some people don't need changing and all this should be dropped, but the last thing the campaign needs is a divisive gesture.
Ignore them mate as they have nothing to offer but personal insults.Haha no bother mate.
Btw should "mental health professionals" be putting laughing emojis against posts they are concerned about the posters wellbeing? Asking for a friend.....
"Pasty folk"Given that the gesture is internationally accepted as being for equality and against racism, and our vice captain has publicly said it is not about politics, why should Rangers change it because Jimmy from Pollok got told it was a Marxist conspiracy.
Maybe those folk who can't discern the difference are the problem here, not the gesture.
Maybe the pasty folk on here - who are telling our black players how to protest in a way that is acceptable to them rather than being offensive to the white moron who doesn't take in what has been told to them repeatedly - should take a long hard look at themselves and either shut up or go elsewhere.
Away and howl from the centre circle or throw someone in the clyde. Well, you can at least try it.
Crank.
People from pollok getting it now, it was possil earlier. Are you implying that everyone from poorer areas is not capable of having opinions.Given that the gesture is internationally accepted as being for equality and against racism, and our vice captain has publicly said it is not about politics, why should Rangers change it because Jimmy from Pollok got told it was a Marxist conspiracy.
Maybe those folk who can't discern the difference are the problem here, not the gesture.
Maybe the pasty folk on here - who are telling our black players how to protest in a way that is acceptable to them rather than being offensive to the white moron who doesn't take in what has been told to them repeatedly - should take a long hard look at themselves and either shut up or go elsewhere.
Was that picture taken in possil or pollok,maybe, easterhouse or somewhere else below your standards
Seriously mate, all bluster and one-upmanship aside, are you having a breakdown?We went over this about half an hour ago mate. I said nothing about the UK being systemiclly racist... you just want to take things and chuck a thing on, and hurl another bit here, and we will stick a couple of tentacles on a horse, and we will give a giraffe 3 tits, it is actually pretty simple, just read what I actually say not what you think I have said or want to read
The gesture isn't that divisive to the majority, and it isn't if people bother to read and listen to the players who have explained why they do it. I would expect the players are sick fed up telling people why they do it now.
Again, some people just can't be educated, change now would simply be seen as pandering to those who boo, it likely isn't going to happen because change now would really just be seen as defeating the entire purpose of the exercise.
You think Obama would be seen dead in Possil?Was that picture taken in possil or pollok,maybe, easterhouse or somewhere else below your standards
Cheers mate, luckily I don't rely on the approval of random guys on FF for my mental well-being hahaIgnore them mate as they have nothing to offer but personal insults.
I didn't say I was concerned about your wellbeing. I said you were a crackpot who should step back, have a lie down, a can of juice and a wank and maybe gain some perspective.Haha no bother mate.
Btw should "mental health professionals" be putting laughing emojis against posts they are concerned about the posters wellbeing? Asking for a friend.....
He will, if its happy hour or the monday club.You think Obama would be seen dead in Possil?
Seriously mate, all bluster and one-upmanship aside, are you having a breakdown?
You've literally quoted yourself mentioning systematic change in the UK by doing this gesture then in the next breath saying youre not talking about systematic racism?
Isn't the aim of this campaign to affect change? It isn't about beating or not backing down to those who boo. If they gain thousands of allies through changing the gesture wouldn't that be a positive move.
As with everything nowadays it goes ultra tribal and the actual aim gets lost.
You actually do just look for a fight in every post. Earlier it was about palestine, Northern Ireland, then you've moved on.People from pollok getting it now, it was possil earlier. Are you implying that everyone from poorer areas is not capable of having opinions.
You’re*Your not as smart as you think you are. I never posted I was supporting england. Somehow you've changed that to contradicting myself to justify your racism.
Ah ok, I'm afraid I will continue to doubt your credentials. Thanks all the sameI didn't say I was concerned about your wellbeing. I said you were a crackpot who should step back, have a lie down, a can of juice and a wank and maybe gain some perspective.
So yes, laughing is entirely appropriate
So, you think you’re oh so clever then?Thats because its fairly obvious to anyone with a functioning brain, so im not going to sit and explain to those among us less gifted in that department how the club being publicly crucified and the support painted as racist neanderthals is a worse PR disaster than a handful of selfish knobs in the crowd getting angry at the players for political reasons is.
Bang on the button scaramanga appears and Bowery boy will be along in the next minute.You’re*
I don’t think I’m any smarter than the average person. But you were greeting like a wean at anyone not backing England at the Euros, you are talking utter bollocks on this thread, and you have just contradicted yourself in spectacular fashion.
Your the one looking down on people from poorer areas. So that's looking for a fight is it?You actually do just look for a fight in every post. Earlier it was about palestine, Northern Ireland, then you've moved on.
Grow up.
Doubt away.Ah ok, I'm afraid I will continue to doubt your credentials. Thanks all the same
Yes i think im smarter than people who are saying its a better look in the media to boo our own black players than to sit and be quiet for 5 seconds, in the same way that i think im smarter than a 10 month old child that faceplants into a bowl of porridge in the morningSo, you think you’re oh so clever then?
Typical mantra of the leftie, chattering class.
“I’m more intelligent than you”.
Seldom does it pan out that way though.
A person with your knowledge and experience should know better than to call somebody such a name.I sincerely mean it when I, as a mental health professional, say this to you: you are a crackpot mate.
Seriously go have a lie down, a can of juice and a wank and see if you can gain some perspective.
I mentioned Pollok in a post because it was an area close to Ibrox with a high percentage of Rangers fans.Your the one looking down on people from poorer areas. So that's looking for a fight is it?
They would say 'you know that's not a recognised diagnosis in the ICD10, in future tell them they have an emerging personality disorder'A person with your knowledge and experience should know better than to call somebody such a name.
What would your boss say to that?
Bang on the button and Bowery boy will be along in the next minute.
They can’t think for themselves.
TinyRhymeswithRick is everything thats wrong in todays world. Agree with me or i will belittle and throw insults.A person with your knowledge and experience should know better than to call somebody such a name.
What would your boss say to that?
The irony in this post is not lostTinyRhymeswithRick is everything thats wrong in todays world. Agree with me or i will belittle and throw insults.
Are you suggesting those boo-ing are boo-ing the players as opposed to the gesture?Yes i think im smarter than people who are saying its a better look in the media to boo our own black players than to sit and be quiet for 5 seconds, in the same way that i think im smarter than a 10 month old child that faceplants into a bowl of porridge in the morning
Don’t flatter yourself mate.Peole ain’t booing the black players the are booing the gesture.
I wish they wouldn’t boo .But it’s up to them as it’s a personal choice.
Are you suggesting those boo-ing are boo-ing the players as opposed to the gesture?
Systematic change in a thread about BLM/taking the knee?You realize systematic change isn't exclusive to racism though don't you? I mean you MUST know that, when someone in a business talks about a need for a systematic change, they aren't solely talking about racism mate, look up the meaning and come back then try and read through this all again
RE your "as with everything point" - so by your admission changing the current process is a bit daft, because the aim is only ever going to go ultra tribal and the actual aim will get lost, so by your omission what difference does it make if the players take a knee, link arms or carry a card. NONE.., so on that premise best the players act on what they feel is right rather than what you do given you have basically said you could never make a difference to anything which shows in your want to change this movement.
It takes balls, time and courage of conviction for change, not simply pandering to those who think nothing will change
Do you think our players will make that same connection?Don’t flatter yourself mate.Peole ain’t booing the black players the are booing the gesture.
I wish they wouldn’t boo .But it’s up to them as it’s a personal choice.
I'll admit gladly I can talk bollocks on this forum, but for you to accuse people of talking bollocks is up there with the best of them.You’re*
I don’t think I’m any smarter than the average person. But you were greeting like a wean at anyone not backing England at the Euros, you are talking utter bollocks on this thread, and you have just contradicted yourself in spectacular fashion.
Haha yeah pretty accurate so far.I will fill you in mate what will happen .
You will have Bowery Boy and Scaramanga all having a pile on.
Throwing personal insults at you as they are unable to debate with you.
I really don't care tbh mate. Crack on though.Doubt away.
Happy to verify with admin if they ask.
Youve been on this thread non stop since i took my first break in work this morning. Im now finished work and you are still going with your mentalist rantings and justifications. If anyone needs to take some time out for a cuppa tea then its you mateMate, go and have a cup of tea and calm down.
Nobody piled in on you. You've been fantasising about being bullied all day, and having things rammed down your throat. It's bloody weird. If you post up shite opinions, people will challenge them. Although I think it's abundantly clear now that you're little more than a WUM who probably won't last too much longer on here.Bang on the button scaramanga appears and Bowery boy will be along in the next minute.
They can’t think for themselves.
They haven’t an argument and the personal insults will flow.Haha yeah pretty accurate so far.
I've even had a couple of "who do you think you are being new on FF and having an opinion" (paraphrasing)
Show me the casual racism? Referring to us as pasty? I look at my arm just now and I make goths look like Jimmy Calderwood.I really don't care tbh mate. Crack on though.
Is the casual racism you display part of the training too btw?
Well do you think they're morons?Do you think our players will make that same connection?
What?Hahaha jesus fkn christ.
Systematic change in a thread about BLM/taking the knee?
No your right, I have no IDEA how I jumped the conclusion you were on about systematic racism. It's perfectly obvious you were talking about a completely different, previously unmentioned subject.
"White moron"Show me the casual racism? Referring to us as pasty? I look at my arm just now and I make goths look like Jimmy Calderwood.
Saying its not for white folk to tell black people how to protest?
Aye, very racist.
And what does taking the knee mean? What has it achieved?If Connor Goldson, Glen Kamara, Calvin Bassey, Kemar Roofe, Alfredo Morelos, Fashion Sakala, James Tavernier, Jermaine Defoe, Joe
Aribo and Leon Balogun feel the need to continue to take the knee due to the daily racial abuse they face then we should support them 100%, if you don’t like it just sit down and shut up, it’s that simple.
The argument is that it is completely wrong to boo Rangers players. I know you’ve stated you wouldn’t do it however IIRC you also said you think people have a right to boo. If that’s your opinion then you must think it applies to every situation, including minute silences. In my opinion though, it is completely and utterly disrespectful.They haven’t an argument and the personal insults will flow.
Haha the guy belongs on Reddit."White moron"
Nope, nothing racist at all there.
Ah you're going with the I'm really white too so it's alright to generalise a group of people based on their race.
Backtracking has commenced.
No backtracking whatsoever."White moron"
Nope, nothing racist at all there.
Ah you're going with the I'm really white too so it's alright to generalise a group of people based on their race.
Backtracking has commenced.
What does it matter? The players want to do it and only need to be given a tiny bit of respect for a span of about 5 seconds. There shouldn’t even be any need for any discussion beyond this, just give them the respect they deserve and let them gesture against something that any decent person should surely also oppose.And what does taking the knee mean? What has it achieved?