‘’ Strike Me Deid If It’s No True The Rangers Have Beaten The Celtic’’.

[The Moonlighter]

Yesterday we highlighted the historical link with the Viceroy Bar at 22 Paisley Road West and Rangers Legend Tom Vallance’s Club Restaurant.

Here’s a gem of a story of an ‘’Urchin’’ who raced from Hampden to Tom’s restaurant to tell those gathered outside some wonderful news.

https://www.thefounderstrail.co.uk/single-post/2017/09/06/“Strike-me-deid-if-it’s-no-true”

 

[The Moonlighter]

 

[The Moonlighter]

Tom Vallance was actually having the Rangers results wired to his restaurants for the benefit of his patrons as early as 1890 but our wee urchin was clearly taking no chances after a result like that.

 

[Boldvale]

Mr Vallance seemed to be a bit of a business man.

 

[The Moonlighter]

Mr Vallance seemed to be a bit of a business man.

He was hugely successful.

He also had the Metropolitan in Hutchison Street which is in the Merchants City area of town and the Monico at 183 Hope Street.

 

[Boldvale]

On a similar theme. Was the RS McColl who played for us the same man of newsagent fame?

 

[RabSpackman]

On a similar theme. Was the RS McColl who played for us the same man of newsagent fame?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Smyth_McColl

Robert Smyth McColl (13 April 1876 – 1959) was a Scottish footballer who played as a centre forward.

He started his career at Queen's Park in 1894. McColl represented the Scottish League in 1901.[1] He later played for Newcastle United. McColl remained in Newcastle for 3 years, and returned to play for Rangers in 1905. He returned to Queen's Park in 1907, although the 'return' of his amateur status had to be decided by the board of the club beforehand. McColl finished his football career in 1912, scoring 6 goals in his final game against Port Glasgow Athletic, a Scottish scoring record which stands to the present day.

McColl played 13 games and scored 13 goals for the Scotland national football team. He was inducted into the Scottish Football Hall of Famein November 2011.[2]

McColl is now better known for lending his name to the newsagent chain RS McColl, which he set up in 1901 with his brother Tom. Due to this he became known as 'Toffee Bob'. He served as a sergeant in the Royal Army Service Corps during the First World War.

 

[Chester Perry]

Some good tales

Thanks for posting

 

[Boldvale]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Smyth_McColl

Robert Smyth McColl (13 April 1876 – 1959) was a Scottish footballer who played as a centre forward.

He started his career at Queen's Park in 1894. McColl represented the Scottish League in 1901.[1] He later played for Newcastle United. McColl remained in Newcastle for 3 years, and returned to play for Rangers in 1905. He returned to Queen's Park in 1907, although the 'return' of his amateur status had to be decided by the board of the club beforehand. McColl finished his football career in 1912, scoring 6 goals in his final game against Port Glasgow Athletic, a Scottish scoring record which stands to the present day.

McColl played 13 games and scored 13 goals for the Scotland national football team. He was inducted into the Scottish Football Hall of Famein November 2011.[2]

McColl is now better known for lending his name to the newsagent chain RS McColl, which he set up in 1901 with his brother Tom. Due to this he became known as 'Toffee Bob'. He served as a sergeant in the Royal Army Service Corps during the First World War.

Smashing, I assume he would have been our most successful business man after hanging up his boots. (In a career away from football)

 

[The Moonlighter]

On a similar theme. Was the RS McColl who played for us the same man of newsagent fame?

Yes indeed.

We restored the final resting place of RS McColl at Cathcart Cemetery last year.

He lies beside Chairman William Craig and our first manager William Wilton.

 

[williewoodburn]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Smyth_McColl

Robert Smyth McColl (13 April 1876 – 1959) was a Scottish footballer who played as a centre forward.

He started his career at Queen's Park in 1894. McColl represented the Scottish League in 1901.[1] He later played for Newcastle United. McColl remained in Newcastle for 3 years, and returned to play for Rangers in 1905. He returned to Queen's Park in 1907, although the 'return' of his amateur status had to be decided by the board of the club beforehand. McColl finished his football career in 1912, scoring 6 goals in his final game against Port Glasgow Athletic, a Scottish scoring record which stands to the present day.

McColl played 13 games and scored 13 goals for the Scotland national football team. He was inducted into the Scottish Football Hall of Famein November 2011.[2]

McColl is now better known for lending his name to the newsagent chain RS McColl, which he set up in 1901 with his brother Tom. Due to this he became known as 'Toffee Bob'. He served as a sergeant in the Royal Army Service Corps during the First World War.

The only Scot I believe to get a hatrick against England, though I dont think when he was with us.

 

[Mostin]

So The Moonlighter is lebluebear?

Love this kind of post mate.

 

[The Moonlighter]

So The Moonlighter is lebluebear?

Love this kind of post mate.

Le Bluebear took the walk to the guillotine on Monday mate.

 

[williewoodburn]

The urchin story has shades of Phidippides

 

[grascots]

Great post and very interesting read.

 

[Templbluenose]

@The Moonlighter get a Tom Vallance book written. you know it makes sense

 

[SenoraCuellar]

I love reading these stories.

 

[defender]

Yes indeed.

We restored the final resting place of RS McColl at Cathcart Cemetery last year.

He lies beside Chairman William Craig and our first manager William Wilton.

Never knew that cheers

 

[The Moonlighter]

Never knew that cheers

What's fascinating is William Craig appointed William Wilton as manager and Wilton signed McColl.

They rest together.

 

[Arminius]

What's fascinating is William Craig appointed William Wilton as manager and Wilton signed McColl.

They rest together.

It astounds me how much you learn about our great club's back story on here.

Great work that you do. Thanks

 

[Mostin]

Le Bluebear took the walk to the guillotine on Monday mate.

Aww wiiiiit

He was a good bear.

 

[rfc1952]

Great reading these stories about our past.

 

[Rangerista]

A brilliant story of how much the Rangers has always meant to the people of Glasgow. One day our training complex will be re-named Vallance Park, as it surely should be. And while I'm at it, the Gallant Pioneers Stand would be fitting for the Copland.

 

[simply_the_best]

What song would the crowd have started to sing then?

 

[jnloyal]

Brilliant stuff.

 

[Scottbear]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Smyth_McColl

Robert Smyth McColl (13 April 1876 – 1959) was a Scottish footballer who played as a centre forward.

He started his career at Queen's Park in 1894. McColl represented the Scottish League in 1901.[1] He later played for Newcastle United. McColl remained in Newcastle for 3 years, and returned to play for Rangers in 1905. He returned to Queen's Park in 1907, although the 'return' of his amateur status had to be decided by the board of the club beforehand. McColl finished his football career in 1912, scoring 6 goals in his final game against Port Glasgow Athletic, a Scottish scoring record which stands to the present day.

McColl played 13 games and scored 13 goals for the Scotland national football team. He was inducted into the Scottish Football Hall of Famein November 2011.[2]

McColl is now better known for lending his name to the newsagent chain RS McColl, which he set up in 1901 with his brother Tom. Due to this he became known as 'Toffee Bob'. He served as a sergeant in the Royal Army Service Corps during the First World War.

Wow, did not know this.

 

[bearett]

really interesting read, tom Vallance book would be a fantastic read.

 

[Spinning Blue]

Used to love Le Bluebears posts on the old board.

 

[Clubdeckg]

Great read, yet again

 

[Gallant13.VVV]

If anyone hasn't done the founders trail I'd urge them to do so. Think I'll get myself and my old man booked up again for it.

 

[The Moonlighter]

What song would the crowd have started to sing then?

That's the million dollar question.


Very frustrating that the writer left it open.

 

[The Moonlighter]

Used to love Le Bluebears posts on the old board.

The Moonlighter dropped the guillotine on Le Bluebear when we moved boards.

 

[davyloyal]

The urchin story has shades of Phidippides

Aye, but Pheidippides had a pair of Nike trainers.

 

[NorseGod]

What's fascinating is William Craig appointed William Wilton as manager and Wilton signed McColl.

They rest together.

Take great pride in telling any hire I take to Trades House in Glassford St that The Rangers 1st ever Manager William Wilton was appointed in there. (learned on The Founders Trail, do it if you haven't)

Look at that building every time with a little affection now.

 

[KingBrian]

The song they sung would have to have been Follow, Follow surely?

 

[GourockBlue50]

Great post by the OP.

 

[The Moonlighter]

The song they sung would have to have been Follow, Follow surely?

Unfortunately there is no record of when Follow Follow was first sung by the support.

We also have details of a Club "Annual Hop" held in the Queens Rooms in 1875 which says " The proceedings of the evening were greatly added to by the ladies and gentleman present giving a few songs and recitals".

Again frustratingly it doesn't say what they sang.

 

[Aragorn]

The urchin story has shades of Phidippides

I wonder what the 'urchin' went on to do in later life? Lovely story.

 

[The Moonlighter]

I wonder what the 'urchin' went on to do in later life? Lovely story.

He more than likely gave up the role as ''the runner'' from Hampden after that incident.

 

[Banjobear]

There can never be enough of these type of stories

 

[Travis Bickle]

I love reading these stories, even though I know many of them, I've still got to read them. WATP

 

[Lance Uppercut]

I wonder what the 'urchin' went on to do in later life? Lovely story.

Given that it was Victorian times he was probably killed before wearing long trousers in an industrial accident involving cleaning some sort of heavy machinery while it was still in operation...

 

[billybluehat]

Excellent read.As others have stated it's great to read about The Rangers' exploits before we were here.

 

[thevietnambear]

Is there not a song Rangers fans back then sang "the Falls of Wearie" or something like this?

 

[The Moonlighter]

Is there not a song Rangers fans back then sang "the Falls of Wearie" or something like this?

The Bonnie Wells O' Wearie my friend.

I hope this guy doesn't mind me posting his video on here.

 

[Larkhall_Exile]

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The only Scot I believe to get a hatrick against England, though I dont think when he was with us.

Alex Jackson got a hat-trick against England in the Wembley Wizards game in 1928. England 1 Scotland 5. Alan Morton set up 3 of the 5 goals.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/sportscotland/asportingnation/article/0021/index.shtml

 

[thevietnambear]

The Bonnie Wells O' Wearie my friend.

I hope this guy doesn't mind me posting his video on here.

I'm sure the Rangers fans sang the song to the tune of, but different words?

Cheers Iain

 

[Rangerista]

I'm sure the Rangers fans sang the song to the tune of, but different words?

Cheers Iain

I've wondered about what words the fans sang back in the day, as with its references to Edinburgh and the Italian imposter C. E. Stuart, it doesn't seem likely it was sung with the original lyrics. If anyone can enlighten me please I'd be more than grateful. Another case for the FFDA!

 

[dbear]

Smashing, I assume he would have been our most successful business man after hanging up his boots. (In a career away from football)

Nicky Walker must be up there too.

 

[whitbyontbear]

Aye, but Pheidippides had a pair of Nike trainers.

And he was struck deid after delivering his report and score in the battle.