Sasa
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0.2% infection rate is not the time to bring back football. But I’m the drama queen. Brilliant.
2 More Positive Tests In The EPL
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Ubik
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predicting we will never be allowed out again, never see our parents again and we're all going to starve to death kind of hints that you're a drama queen.
Sasa
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No smiley face? Disappointed.
Sasa
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And where did I predict we wouldn’t be allowed out again? I commented that those who wanted to remain in lockdown appeared happy to never go out again and maintain the status quo. And if they were happy with us all doing that then inevitably we’d all starve to death.
A relatively facetious comment that most people would have taken as that, but clearly you and your smiley faces weren’t clever enough to work it out.
Loads of people go to their work every day, because it is necessary.
All that is being asked just now is that if you don't have to, and can work from home, you do that. That you only go out and about if it's essential. However no-one is being really precious about that, I see loads of people out and about.
It lowers the spread of the virus, and has other benefits, for example it keeps the roads clearer for people who need to use them.
Le Big Bear Bum
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Are you sure that is true for Germany?
Sasa
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Yorkhill_True_Blues
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Folk just love all of this hysteria rather than just keeping a look at the full figures and stats.
It seems no logical thinking is welcome for many.
It seems no logical thinking is welcome for many.
Guerilla
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Oh 100% but every bit we get back to normal the more the public will cast off their cowardice and start living again. I would never have locked down in the first place. I am hoping more wake up and this can be a start
wilso10
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If it's behind closed doors, I'd disagree.
tsa57
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Fans are not the ones to be worried about as they wont be there. Players need good protection too. Especially with close contact games.
Your post has nothing to do with mine but fair enough.
SenoraCuellar
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There's an ex Fulham player who now plays back in Russia seriously ill in hospital. The problem with this virus is that it affects people differently.
You think it's cowardice doing what we can to protect others, particularly the weak and vulnerable.
People have been on here who have had covid, and have family and friends who have died. How exactly is it cowardice to try to minimise that.
Lockdown was relaxed on the 6th May.
Germany is the least affected big country in Europe. 100 deaths per million population, compared to Spain 613, Italy and UK both 542. Naturally they are reacting differently and are getting back to normal slowly where as Spain and Italy are simply taking a chance because their economies are on their @rses.
Sweden never had a lockdown and are regretting it they have had 396 deaths per million population where neighbouring Norway are at 43 and Finland 55.
Guerilla
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Its not. Anyone vulnerable should be protected but that can be done while healthy low risk people go about their lives. At this point we know who is at risk.
Why did you post it then.
I'm not sure if you are just trying to wind people up but to suggest following WHO and Government guidelines, in order to protect people who are weak and vulnerable, and possibly save their lives, is an act of cowardice is outrageous as far as I am concerned.
Oh and given that there is more and more evidence that people can catch it, go about their lives with no or mild symptoms, spreading it to others, do you propose everyone gets tested on a regular basis. Or do you just see that as an acceptable risk.
Guerilla
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If you have someone in your family who is vulnerable then you protect them. How do you do it differently if you go to work or if you don’t? If you have 90 year old granny then you’re distancing whether u go about your daily business or not.
Now if you’re in one of the low risk groups and want to hide under your bed then even thats fine. If to enable you to feel better u want me to do the same then that to me is a coward.
I sincerely hope none of your family or friends are stricken by this.
However if they are I'm sure the medical professionals who are risking their lives on a daily basis will do everything they can to help them. All I can do is follow the NHS's advice and do what I can to help eradicate this. If you think that makes me a coward fair enough.
Good luck and stay safe.
How to avoid catching and spreading coronavirus (COVID-19)
Find out how coronavirus (COVID-19) is spread and what you can do to reduce your risk of catching and spreading it.
Stay at home as much as possible
It's very important to stay at home as much as possible.
There are only a few specific reasons to leave your home, including:
- for work, if you cannot work from home
- going to shops to get things like food and medicine, or to collect things you've ordered
- to exercise or spend time outdoors
- for any medical reason, to donate blood, avoid injury or illness, escape risk of harm, provide care or help a vulnerable person
Guerilla
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I hope the same for you. My parents are in their 80’s, I drop stuff and always distance from them.I sincerely hope none of your family or friends are stricken by this.
However if they are I'm sure the medical professionals who are risking their lives on a daily basis will do everything they can to help them. All I can do is follow the NHS's advice and do what I can to help eradicate this. If you think that makes me a coward fair enough.
Good luck and stay safe.
How to avoid catching and spreading coronavirus (COVID-19)
Find out how coronavirus (COVID-19) is spread and what you can do to reduce your risk of catching and spreading it.www.nhs.uk
Stay at home as much as possible
It's very important to stay at home as much as possible.
There are only a few specific reasons to leave your home, including:
When outside your home, it's important to try to stay 2 metres (3 steps) away from anyone you do not live with.
- for work, if you cannot work from home
- going to shops to get things like food and medicine, or to collect things you've ordered
- to exercise or spend time outdoors
- for any medical reason, to donate blood, avoid injury or illness, escape risk of harm, provide care or help a vulnerable person
From I have read and watched on it the virus isn’t dying out until enough people get it and recover from it. I am very willing to take that chance and be one of the 99.8% who recover and hopefully allow everybody to live their lives again.
Le Big Bear Bum
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Lockdown was relaxed on the 6th May.
Pretty sure I read they had spike last week which was higher than 6th May.
Sasa
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And I bet you read it in the press who have done nothing but promote fear and panic all for the sake of clicks.
Whereas that graph is directly from government figures.
Guerilla
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Danish scientists are stunned that the infections haven’t risen in the 4 weeks since they unlocked. Luckily for Scandinavians their governments aren’t doubling down in order to save face.
Le Big Bear Bum
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Gios_Gillet
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Cant we just make every fan wear a face mask in the stadium
Sasa
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I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make here? You’re comparing 2 days.
The absolute fact is that Germany has not seen their infection rate rise after lockdown was eased.
Guerilla
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That’s the kind of security blanket many will need. In reality achieves little but will make them feel much more secure
Le Big Bear Bum
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Wasn't really making a point. Just checking the data as I knew I'd read something about recent rises.
If there were indeed 1300 new cases on 19 May, it is not shown on the graph you referred to.
Sasa
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Do you have your source somewhere?
Here’s a totally separate website saying 538 cases which is completely the same as what that chart is also reporting.
COVID-19 cases Germany 2023 | Statista
New daily COVID case numbers are still being recorded in 2023, although figures are lower than previously.
www.statista.com
I don’t think 99.8% recover are you not getting mixed up with that was the % footballers tested positive.
I think it is over 14% of people confirmed as positive in the UK have died.
Yes but people who are fit and healthy are a low risk, so they are going to get on with their lives.
As I said, I will continue doing what the NHS are asking me to do.
Begbie's Moustache
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The ongoing daily positive test figure in Scotland is 3%. The rolling 7-day average is 4%. Consistently falling for weeks and should be under 1% in a week or so - even with far more tests than before. Most hospitals are near to being empty.
At some point the general public will see test rates of 2 in 1000 like the EPL has, and if we aren’t back to (adjusted) normal life by that point, society and its economy will be in very dire straits.
At some point the general public will see test rates of 2 in 1000 like the EPL has, and if we aren’t back to (adjusted) normal life by that point, society and its economy will be in very dire straits.
LewisRob2009
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It doesn't make you exempt however the mortality rate, if your under 65 with no underlying health conditions is nominal.
You've got more chance of drowning, or dying in a car crash.
The worry for the young, fit and healthy is passing it on to vulnerable relatives.
Guerilla
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most aren’t tested for it so dont count towards those figures. They get it and recover. A percentage of the deaths died with covid rather than from covid.
The Harbour Master
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Two positive tests is a good result and supports the move to get football restarted. I’m not sure how anyone could logically come to an alternative view. I say that knowing logic has long since been chucked out the window by many.
