The ever impartial BBC have removed the content.
They evidently don’t want us using it against FARE...
The ever impartial BBC have removed the content.
You can only imagine the reaction of the press if we had been hanging porn dolls dressed as the pope or wearing crosses. Those responsible would have been jailed for 10 years for inciting religiously motivated hatred. Instead our press said nada and our police/PF ‘lost’ the evidence. Scotland is a disgrace.Reporting the word 19th Century Terrorist in our songs while showing a picture of them holding up the banners claiming to be 19th Century Terrorists of course for balanced reporting
Yeah - well make sure you get it right and don't indulge in idle speculation.
Time for papasmurf to gain a new project
The proper term for the charges we faced is 'Racist and Discriminatory Conduct' - only nobody has bothered to use that rather misleading and long-winded term.
This is how UEFA define 'Racist and Discriminatory Conduct'.
Any person under the scope of Article 3 who insults the human dignity of a person or group of persons on whatever grounds, including skin colour, race, religion, ethnic origin, gender or sexual orientation, incurs a suspension lasting at least ten matches or a specified period of time, or any other appropriate sanction.
It goes, as you can see, way beyond what most of us would term 'racist'.
Article 14 in their Regs:
https://www.uefa.com/MultimediaFile...CompDisCases/02/60/83/56/2608356_DOWNLOAD.pdf
We don't, we've been done under "Racism and other discriminatory conduct - Any person under the scope of Article 3 who insults the human dignity of a person or group of persons on whatever grounds, including skin colour, race, religion, ethnic origin, gender or sexual orientation, incurs a suspension lasting at least ten matches or a specified period of time, or any other appropriate sanction. "
It's clear, the club have accepted it, the Manager has accepted it, it seems the huge majority of fans have accepted it, it's time to move on.
We know that mate, but it’s being reported in places and being used against us already as simply racist. We already wrongly had that tag from a lot of people, so the club should be doing all they can to get that tag dropped or at least the full explanation published. From the outside looking in it looks like we’ve been done for blatant racism.
We have not tackled effectively our singing. Who’s more at fault?
Fare exist to point fingers and we provide the targets
This FARE mob need investigated and outed if we can prove their bias
It’s obvious they are targeting one team in Glasgow and it’s not the paedo harbourers so we should forensically go through their accounts, personnel, social media posts, LinkedIn profiles the lot
UEFA are corrupt as f.uck too and I would not be surprised if bags of cash are being handed over to push the agenda against us
agree but wont happenHence why we need to fund a investigation into FARE, their members and their observers!!
I wasn’t at the St Joseph’s game as I was on holiday so maybe I’m being unfair. Was there a massive sectarian problem at that match? I don’t remember reading about it on here at the time but now everyone seems to be convinced that our own fans are evil personified.
I don't doubt we cleared up our songbook for period of time but we've clearly reverted back. I haven't seen any denial of TBB being sung Vs st Pats. I was there and honestly did not notice but I don't sing.Our offensive songs cleared up for years and FARE had us done anyway.
The ever impartial BBC have removed the content.
They evidently don’t want us using it against FARE...
"To be clear, we condemn sectarianism and there is no doubt the mindless behaviour of an element of our support has exposed the club to a very serious situation. The people who engage in this type of behaviour are damaging the club they claim to support.Did someone screw grab it?
Why would it be taken down?Did someone screw grab it?
That’s easily done. I’ve worked closely with people on here on another thread that would gladly do some digging. We have to stop playing into their hands though. Our club has been asking for it to stop for a long time now.Hence why we need to fund a investigation into FARE, their members and their observers!!
Tom Boyd.Would love to know who the FARE representative was.
I agree wholeheartedly, these songs deemed offensive should not be sung!That’s easily done. I’ve worked closely with people on here on another thread that would gladly do some digging. We have to stop playing into their hands though. Our club has been asking for it to stop for a long time now.
A post earlier touched me on another thread. A dad going to the game with his boy and now he can’t. That’s not right that a father and son can’t go due to others.
We don't, we've been done under "Racism and other discriminatory conduct - Any person under the scope of Article 3 who insults the human dignity of a person or group of persons on whatever grounds, including skin colour, race, religion, ethnic origin, gender or sexual orientation, incurs a suspension lasting at least ten matches or a specified period of time, or any other appropriate sanction. "
It's clear, the club have accepted it, the Manager has accepted it, it seems the huge majority of fans have accepted it, it's time to move on.
Why not inform us rather than say "a Norwegian" done it and ran away
This is laughably vague. Insults a person on whatever grounds - this encompasses the vast majority of people who have ever attended a football match. Also, "any other appropriate sanction" means they have carte blanche to make it up as they go along.
Shite we are not out of Europe what the hell you talking about, going overboard and slightly paranoid doesn't help thingsDoesn’t matter who the hell reported us. It changes nothing. The songs have to stop or we’re out of Europe.
But yet we still go and fill them with our revenue, so there you go.Any c*nt called O'Hagen and associated with Kilmarnock is not to be trusted, doesn't take a lot to figure that out.
He was. ID10 is correct.That’s very fair, no point in giving the guy grief when he’s not responsible
People on here sadly think that if we stop singing a couple of songs they will go away . FARE and all their associated Rangers haters will move on to their next objective. This is a premeditated attack on our club to try and destabilise momentum at a crucial time orchestrated by certain individuals. Thinking otherwise is just nieve at best .Fare is run by an anti-Rangers bigot. Sadly they have UEFA's ear. I wish it were otherwise but we can do very little to change these facts. What we can do is stop singing songs that could see us out of European competition and suffering the financial and competitive repercussions that would follow.
Time to stop the songs and add-ons. Focus on our ongoing return to superiority and highlighting their decades long cover-up.
Hypothetically, if the Norwegian chap didn’t understand the meaning of songs being sung, would he have someone willing to explain it to him?
Just saying!
People on here sadly think that if we stop singing a couple of songs they will go away . FARE and all their associated Rangers haters will move on to their next objective. This is a premeditated attack on our club to try and destabilise momentum at a crucial time orchestrated by certain individuals. Thinking otherwise is just nieve at best .
The fact that the filth have never been done by FARE speaks volumes. I could give you dozens of examples every time the cunts play .I am saying that other clubs might be randomly visited but there is a campaign against us and we are targetted constantly. It’s all also well known of the connections of senior people at FARE and Celtc.
Absolutely. It’s nothing but sham organisation, set up by bigots, with their own agenda, to punish Rangers.The fact that the filth have never been done by FARE speaks volumes. I could give you dozens of examples every time the cunts play .
After sleeping on this as was angry yesterday we just have to screw the nut.
Absolutely. It’s nothing but sham organisation, set up by bigots, with their own agenda, to punish Rangers.
We got reported after every game last season, just this season Uefa decided enough is enough by the sounds of it.What has changed since last season? 14 European ties, home and away. Same songbook and no issues (from memory). No issues from the other European ties this season. It's no coincidence O'Hagen was present at the St. Pat's tie. The dhark hand of the bheast is all over this.
Wasn't aware of this. Why didn't the club engage with the fans then?We got reported after every game last season, just this season Uefa decided enough is enough by the sounds of it.
I agree but the point being made is they will still come after the club . Stop the singing and it will be something else they come after us . Your not going to have 50,000 angels at a football match .Does it matter if it's 2 songs or 10 songs? Stop singing about stuff that has nothing to do with Rangers. Job done. They have nothing to target us with then. It might be unfair, it might be unjust, it might be a pain in the arse - but its the obvious and clear answer.
They even had the audacity to have pro palestine before the game against the Israeli team and that was deemed ok ....... FARE are out to get our club only supporters need to wisen up .The fact that the filth have never been done by FARE speaks volumes. I could give you dozens of examples every time the cunts play .
That's fair enough but they've been at all 19 of our European home games. What other club is scrutinised as much as us?You talking crap mate go and look at the citings, there’s a random weeks worth. Need to stop this conspiracy crap that it’s only us
02 January 2019 – Indian Kerala Premier League: Sports Academy Tirur v FC Thrissur
FC Thrissur player, Yemoah Santa Cruz, was subjected to racial slurs by Sports Academy Tirur players. Santa Cruz was repeatedly called ‘black’ in a derogatory manner. The Kerala Football Association was notified.
05 January 2019 – English Conference Premier League: Wrexham AFC v Dover Athletic FC
Dover Athletic players were racially abused by a group of Wrexham fans during and directly after the match. North Wales Police have launched an investigation.
06 January 2019 – English FA Women’s Super League: Sheffield United Women v Tottenham Hotspur Ladies F.C
The Tottenham Hotspur defender, Renee Hector, was subject to racist abuse from another Sheffield United player. Sheffield United launched an investigation.
08 January 2019 – English Premier League: Tottenham Hotspur FC v Chelsea FC
A Chelsea fan was arrested for using anti-Semitic language before the match. Two other fans were arrested for racially aggravated public order offences.
09 January 2019 – AS Roma supporters
To coincide with the anniversary of SS Lazio, AS Roma supporters distributed anti-Semitic flyers around Rome. The flyers read: ‘Lazio, Napoli and Israel, same colours, same flags. Shit!’. Italian police authorities have launched an investigation.
That's fair enough but they've been at all 19 of our European home games. What other club is scrutinised as much as us?
That's fair enough but they've been at all 19 of our European home games. What other club is scrutinised as much as us?
They even had the audacity to have pro palestine before the game against the Israeli team and that was deemed ok ....... FARE are out to get our club only supporters need to wisen up .
He was. ID10 is correct.