Aberdeen manager red carded for responding to sectarian chants

Calico Jack

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Selectarianism.

This story is not one the press want to run with.
Fair enough.
But this was never about being offended and that is the point.
I doubt any of us cares a whit about what other teams supporters sing or even about what individual supporters say in their cups on social media or other.

But this is why you have to look at the matter from a political and cultural perspective.
This supposed 'non-concern' is being used maliciously and for gain, not by you against anyone, but by nasty people against you.
Not to offend you on a personal level, but to undermine your very being on a political and cultural level.
To diminish you as a person in society and to traduce and eliminate any influence you have at a cultural level and even at a political one.

It is a war, not one that you declared, but one that has been declared against you.
You can hide from it, you can stick your head in the sand, but it will still be the same.
You are the target and they are aiming at you no matter how much you decide to look away.
Every Protestant the length and width of the country should be made to read, digest and reiterate this.

It is a fact.

People need to start waking up to this, as the end goal is an ugly one for Scotland.
 

BrooklynBlue

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Sad orange bastard , sung by the sheep , directed at Gerrard , Mcinnes says nothing. Sad orange bastard , sung by the Taigs , directed at McInnes , McInnes greets.
F*ck you McInnes !
That's not really the point, though. I fail to see why McInnes is being criticised. Every other team seems to be able to deal with fans' songs with the exception of one club. This club paint themselves are moral arbitrers and social justice warriors - it's quite right that their behaviour is highlighted.
 

ChiefWahoo

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Strict liability seems even less likely now when the people pushing it are the main offenders. They don't get it.
They were also the main instigators in having the Offensive Behaviour at Football Act introduced.
It only became a problem when their behaviour resulted in arrests.


The idea with strict liability will be the same, it's only intended to punish us.
You only need to read this thread to see that singing about orange bastards will be alright, our own fans are joining in with the abuse of McInnes.
 

cocobob

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A few weeks ago, Kris Boyd was a prick on here for not playing on the sectarian abuse he received.

Today, Derek McInnes has highlighted the abuse and still it's not good enough.
The taigs have built a road and we are walking blindly behind it.
 

Tim Hunter

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This shit needs to stop, all the offended.
We gave it big style Burns, and all the rest since.
Get over it and get a life.
I'm sure we all would in a heartbeat.
Unfortunately that is today's battleground, we have no option but to defend ourselves where we are attacked, and engage the enemy where we find them.
Since Donald Findlay fell on his sword to facilitate DM's pursuit of a knighthood, we have been constant,ly attacked for our songbook. No one else faces anywhere near the same level of condemnation, and indeed excuses are routinely made for culprits when abuse is directed at us.
Our biggest fault(problem) is that some of our community think this is just about football.
 

bpfurian

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Fair enough.
But this was never about being offended and that is the point.
I doubt any of us cares a whit about what other teams supporters sing or even about what individual supporters say in their cups on social media or other.

But this is why you have to look at the matter from a political and cultural perspective.
This supposed 'non-concern' is being used maliciously and for gain, not by you against anyone, but by nasty people against you.
Not to offend you on a personal level, but to undermine your very being on a political and cultural level.
To diminish you as a person in society and to traduce and eliminate any influence you have at a cultural level and even at a political one.

It is a war, not one that you declared, but rather one that has been declared against you.
You can hide from it, you can stick your head in the sand, but it will still be the same.
You are the target and they are aiming at you no matter how much you decide to look away.
Absolutely fuckin correct mate.
 

williewoodburn

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FFS, seriously you and the others who chose to ignore the big picture really can’t see in Scotland today one is offensive, the other ignored.
I’ll give you a clue which one is ignored, it has a colour in it.
I know the way both terms are being played out but I'm not talking about that....my point simply is that neither are particularly offensive.
 

Wilkinsvolley

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That's the Scum gave it to Boyd, SG and now Mcinnes without any public apology or condemnation from Celtic FC very odd from a Club that holds high values on sectarian offensive behaviour when it's own Club employees and Supporters are on the receiving end.
They’re sheer hypocrites and love being the victim as we’ve always said. Just because they’ve got their placemen in the authorities to keep is quiet doesn’t mean it’s going unnoticed. It could take a long time and a lot of manoeuvring to displace them but one things for sure they will be displaced and they’ll be shown for what they are. People can’t go around acting like that forever and it not come out. I’d love it tomorrow but I’ll wait and it’ll be sweet when they’re finally exposed.
 

JMT73

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Not sober Deedle, but we get so offended by small things.
I was the worlds worst 40 years ago.
Sometimes I just think we are more offended than them.
Its such a shame.
The thing is NOBODY is offended by these chants (well nobody I know anyway). The other side use the offended bus when things aren't going their way, like the sectarian chants at Clark. Did Clarke give one fck about being called a sad F***** b******d? No. He gave a fck about being hammered by Rangers, then basically calling the officials cheats. Then he realised what he was done so did what they do best and deflected completely and made it all about him being a piir wee soul who was abused by big bad Rangers. The Lennon with the sectarian racist coin that hit his jacket but somehow the pain from the puffa jacket radiated to his face, this deflected him away from a charge for goading the fans. When it's about them, ie Catholics, it's a huge deal, but about us its laughed off and we're just paranoid Protestants.
As I said nobody actually cares but I just want the incidents against us to be reported with the same outrage as them.
 
The thing is NOBODY is offended by these chants (well nobody I know anyway). The other side use the offended bus when things aren't going their way, like the sectarian chants at Clark. Did Clarke give one fck about being called a sad F***** b******d? No. He gave a fck about being hammered by Rangers, then basically calling the officials cheats. Then he realised what he was done so did what they do best and deflected completely and made it all about him being a piir wee soul who was abused by big bad Rangers. The Lennon with the sectarian racist coin that hit his jacket but somehow the pain from the puffa jacket radiated to his face, this deflected him away from a charge for goading the fans. When it's about them, ie Catholics, it's a huge deal, but about us its laughed off and we're just paranoid Protestants.
As I said nobody actually cares but I just want the incidents against us to be reported with the same outrage as them.
I’ve just phoned the news desk for capital radio asking why they have ignored the fact that aberdeen had 3 sendings off and not 2 as they are reporting and they said that they did report that The Aberdeen manager was red carded after sectarian abuse and I reminded them that I’ve just listened to the 06.00 news and it wasn’t reported. They took my details and said they will look into it
 

Ardoyne RSC

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I've been called an orange b######. many times. I know I am not a b######, and i am proud to be Orange, and have been for 69 years. Don't know why there is so much fuss over this.
hunks one and all!
Agree with this 100%. If I had a £ every time I was called an Orange bastard, I could retire to Barbados. - and I have never reacted yet. So, yes, I am not really offended.
However, the big question that needs answered is why only ant- Catholic abuse is highlighted. The double standards (and not just on this issue) are disgusting.
Is it because the victims are Protestant, or because the perpetrators are Celtic / Catholic.?
Either way, the bigots in Holyrood, Polieass Schotland (or whatever they call themselves now) and Liewells private club (AKA SFA / SPFL) need to address this. But most of all, Liewell's Lickspittles - the media.
 

Paisleyprod

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Lets see if McInnes' club back him in this but I won't hold my breath.

One club and fans are out of control, get away with all sorts and all aided by the media, bogus charity and scum politicians and anyone that cannot see that or accepts it is part of the problem, blinkered and a tad dim.
 
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Humbug

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There is not a lot that goes over my head, and there is quite a lot goes through it. Celtic and Rangers managers have had this sung to them for years. Nobody complained, this has become the present day habit of being offended by everything. The ending was hunks, one and all, don't know where hunks came from, tried to edit this but kept going back to hunks.
Your acerbic wit has been noted.
My post should read hunks, not hunks. There is not a lot that goes over my head. there is quite a lot that goes through it. Your acerbic wit has been noted.
Hey, it's a brave new world, you can embrace your sexuality in any way, shape, and form you wish now.
We understand, pm Lainey Love for tips x
 
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Humbug

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I’ve just phoned the news desk for capital radio asking why they have ignored the fact that aberdeen had 3 sendings off and not 2 as they are reporting and they said that they did report that The Aberdeen manager was red carded after sectarian abuse and I reminded them that I’ve just listened to the 06.00 news and it wasn’t reported. They took my details and said they will look into it
Did Docherty the assistant not get sent off at half time, what was his un-acceptable behaviour?
 

Bear all

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I know the way both terms are being played out but I'm not talking about that....my point simply is that neither are particularly offensive.
I dont see your point then, we are to be accountable they are not and even more disturbingly going by McInnes red card dont react to it either.
 

Humbug

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Did Docherty the assistant not get sent off at half time, what was his un-acceptable behaviour?
Quoting my own post here as I decided to check why Docherty was sent off. I came across this from the DR, I am fully aware that it is frowned upon to click their links but this will sum up everything that is wrong in this swamp.
We can't continue to ignore this we need to fight fire with fire, remember this is "Tony Docherty getting sent off" during the Aberdeenv Celtc Semi final.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport...ny-docherty-sent-stands-unacceptable-14312364
 

Mexi

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I’ve just phoned the news desk for capital radio asking why they have ignored the fact that aberdeen had 3 sendings off and not 2 as they are reporting and they said that they did report that The Aberdeen manager was red carded after sectarian abuse and I reminded them that I’ve just listened to the 06.00 news and it wasn’t reported. They took my details and said they will look into it
They probably got their story from PA Sport, who only mentioned he was sent to the stands after "losing his discipline"

It'll the same one Sky used on their website

https://www.skysports.com/football/aberdeen-vs-celtic/406408
 

JohnBrownsboot

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All forms of sectarianism/racism should be treated equally.

Doesn't matter how much the victims piss their pants about it.

The fact is the - so called - anti sectarianism groups in Scotland are only interested in anti catholic behaviour.

There are political points, money and lots of media exposure to be gained from being out spoken against anti catholic behaviour.

We need a group who focuses only on violence or behaviour that is offensive to the protestant community or those perceived to be protestant.

I am fairly certain that since 2012, the levels of violence aimed at Rangers fans compared to violence against celtic fans would suggest we are the victims more often than not.

I have only read about it but McInnes should not be punished for the reaction today.

Totally agree with this post. If sectarian behaviour is wrong then it is wrong all of the time irrespective of who is the perpetrator and who is the victim.

Given that we need to clean our own doorstep first. Then we can criticise others with credibility.
 

Steve Snedden

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Totally agree with this post. If sectarian behaviour is wrong then it is wrong all of the time irrespective of who is the perpetrator and who is the victim.

Given that we need to clean our own doorstep first. Then we can criticise others with credibility.
Mrs Mop could be down on her knees, seven days a week, scrubbing until her fingers bleed.

Our doorstep will never be clean enough for the bigots at FARE, Call it Out, Nil by Mouth, CFC, The SFA and all their media stooges.

As far as they are concerned, we are akin to the KKK.

I'd be interested to know how you propose to deal with one side of the debate who have no interest in ending sectarianism, who just use it as a stick to beat that which they hate?
 

temperance

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From BBC on line,

The McInnes dismissal requires context. The Aberdeen manager was subjected to sectarian abuse from Celtic fans and he reacted to it, unwisely by his own admission. The twisted morality of these things in Scotland may now see McInnes up on a Scottish FA charge, while those guilty of abusing him will likely hear no more about it.

Interesting to see how this is dealt with. How did McInnes react ? What did he do ? 4th official input ?
And why was his assistant sent off as well? He couldn’t have been subjected to the same tune.
 

LD5

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Wait so he got sectarian abuse off a large portion of their allocation, and when he reacts with a GIRUY gesture he gets banned?
 

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