Accies the victims of Fraud

Strange statement to put out there.

Does suggest it isn’t a throwaway sum.
 
For a club to become victim of fraud I'd imagine it needs to be a solid complex plan.

Something to do with a transfer?
Someone pretending to be from Fifa etc?
 
Be interesting to see if the sympathy is slightly greater than that we received.

After all, we've been raped of circa hundreds of millions to date. I don't remember Doncaster being overly concerned at that point.
 
Right, deduction of points, £250,000 fine, demotion to the bottom tier, transfer embargo, withholding of prize money and transfer money.

Make them re-apply for their football licence, and don't grant it until the day before their first game in their new division.

Start practising the 'You're no Accies anymore' chants.

That would never happen to a club who have been victims of fraud in this country, would it?

Cynical - me?
 
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These days with the technology and security measures put in place by financial institutions a lot of fraud comes from people abusing a position of trust or downright stupidity. Unless the victims are vulnerable persons then thats a different story.
 
Football club Hamilton Academical has lost what it described as a "substantial sum" due to fraud.

The Scottish Premiership club said its bank and the police are working to identify those responsible. A criminal investigation has been started.

A statement issued by the club said its directors will provide funds to meet its financial obligations until the investigation has been completed.

No figure has been given for the total sum of money missing.

The club said: "At this point it is imperative that we remain calm and work together as we go through one of the most difficult situations we have faced as a club."

Sophisticated fraud
The Scottish football authorities have said the situation is "very serious" for the club.

SPFL chief executive Neil Doncaster said: "Hamilton Academical have informed us that they have been the victim of a sophisticated financial fraud and that Police Scotland are carrying out an investigation.

"This is clearly a very serious and unfortunate situation and everyone in the game will hope it can be resolved quickly.

"We will be monitoring the situation closely and working in conjunction with Hamilton Academical in the days and weeks ahead."
 
johnkp said:
Right, deduction of points, £250,000 fine, demotion to the bottom tier, transfer embargo, withholding of prize money and transfer money.

Make them re-apply for their football licence, and don't grant it until the day before their first game in their new division.

Start the practising the 'You're no Accies anymore' chants.

That would never happen to a club who have been victims of fraud in this country, would it?

Cynical - me?
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And forced to sell your prize assets at bargain basement prices...
 
this is one for popcorn viewing, we sit and watch and see what unfolds.

will they go into admin and get voted down
will the sfa/spfl vote to save them
will sporting fc be leading the charge
will fat mike want to plunder whats left

Tune in next time for Tales of whats expected
 
Would be a shocker if someone individually or a few people in the club were siphoning money out of it. Not saying it's not what's happened here but that's a huge risk to take and you're likely to be traced back by the police unless you covered it up well.

Strange one.
 
Wonder if it's one of those invoice frauds?

The fraudster emails you pretending to be a supplier who has changed their bank details. You then pay the fraudster the funds instead of your supplier.

There's also one where the "CFO" writes in demanding expenses money
 
No doubt the rest of Scottish football will be sympathetic and rush to their aid. After all they would do that for any member club that was the victim of fraud. :rolleyes:
 
Rt. Hon. Bearman said:
That's only when the victims are Rangers.

I expect Scottish football to rally round Hamilton.
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Yes but Rangers should refuse after all they did nothing for us as one 'questionable individual' after another came in. Bad news for Hamilton but not our problem and in any event their ground is non league standard (not relevant but a bug bear of mine).
 
nybear said:
this is one for popcorn viewing, we sit and watch and see what unfolds.

will they go into admin and get voted down
will the sfa/spfl vote to save them
will sporting fc be leading the charge
will fat mike want to plunder whats left

Tune in next time for Tales of whats expected
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You missed out the transfer ban after all their players leave and the fines when they are skint.
 
RFC_Falkirk said:
Wonder if it's one of those invoice frauds?

The fraudster emails you pretending to be a supplier who has changed their bank details. You then pay the fraudster the funds instead of your supplier.

There's also one where the "CFO" writes in demanding expenses money
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That's not going to amount to substantial sums requiring the directors put in their own money to ensure continuity. Those scams need to be in proportion. Unless Hamilton have no authorisation process ...
Maybe someone with the right access got out of control, or "borrowed" cash thinking it could be returned before anyone noticed, or "borrowed" cash and got out of there before anyone noticed. It'll be interesting when the details are known.
 
Not read it but can see the spl pulling together to help them and they all shafted us when we were the victim
 
grascots said:
No doubt the rest of Scottish football will be sympathetic and rush to their aid. After all they would do that for any member club that was the victim of fraud. :rolleyes:
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Just as they did for Rangers and before that, Third Lanark:mad:, both victims of massive fraud! We survived the crooks and asset strippers because of our fan base and in spite of the rest of Scottish football and the SFA. Poor Third Lanark didn't have the support enough to survive.

W.A.T.P.
 
Don’t feel sorry for them whatsoever. If they did go out of business next to nobody would really care. Their home crowds are embarrassing unless they play the old firm.
 
mart22 said:
That's not going to amount to substantial sums requiring the directors put in their own money to ensure continuity. Those scams need to be in proportion. Unless Hamilton have no authorisation process ...
Maybe someone with the right access got out of control, or "borrowed" cash thinking it could be returned before anyone noticed, or "borrowed" cash and got out of there before anyone noticed. It'll be interesting when the details are known.
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I was thinking it might be a phishing fraud, where Hamilton's computer and perhaps phone system have also been compromised. What bears to be someone from the bank calls in advising there have been suspicious transactions, and is able to speak with some detail about the transactions there have actually been because of the hacked access to the computer system.

The employee is persuaded that urgent steps need to be taken to avoid further fraudulent transactions, and is asked to authorise a transfer of funds to a safe holding account in the bank, or something of that nature. Fraudster then takes money from that new account.

It sounds very obviously suss when written down like that, but these fraudsters are extremely sophisticated and able, to the extent on one occasion of being able to effectively hack the internal phone system of a victim (so that the victim thought they were calling the Bank to check the position), and appear to be someone the victim knew from the Bank when they spoke to them. They also pick high pressure times to make the call, and count on the victim's employee being under stress when having to deal with it.

A number of solicitors firms have been caught out by something like this, as have a number of charities. One charity local to me was defrauded out of £0.5m this way.
 
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