Alfie today, from a different perspective.

BlueSevenTwo

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In your opinion, who didn't show?
Aribo , Kent , Arfield
Barisic got in good positions but crossing was not usual standard (overhit)
Goldson strolled it until a proper striker came on , he immediately was gave away the free kick for then goal and was then rag dolled when Johnston missed a sitter.
Barker was a waste of a sub.
 

Danger Zone

Just the tip...
Some on here don’t think any criticism should be levelled at Morelos, always excuses for him

He should have had a hatrick today at least.

His penalty was pathetic and he never looked confident when he got hold of the ball

0 goals against them is pathetic, he’s had many chances.

Not good enough
Do you ever tire of posting shite? Have you ever played football in your puff?

“He should have had a hat-trick”. Well no not really, he was denied by some excellent goalkeeping, he didn’t miss 6 yards out right in front of goal, he had chances that were good but not exactly sitters. He had opportunities where he forced good saves from the keeper, one being a particularly excellent save.

There is no excuse for his penalty, it was shite, he choked it and his head went thereafter, but he’ll be under enough pressure and getting enough grief without clueless fans coming out with shite like eh “he should have had a hat-trick and he’s not good enough”, as though he’s cúnted three back post tap ins. He’s dragged us through quite a lot, he’s already on 25 goals for the season and that includes goals against sides better than Celtic, but he’s ‘not good enough’? Rangers don’t need ‘fans’ like you mate.
 

Carltonblue

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I see that Alfie is getting it in the neck because he never scored.
Fair enough one might think, but and there is a great big fckn but.

On three occasions Alfie caused so many problems for their defence that by himself he could have seen us awarded three penalties.
The one that we did get might well have seen Alfie in on goal with a fairly simple finish.

He was cheated from that finish, but he was the man who found the position.
Which leads me to his many chances.
Most of them were from his own clever physical play as a frontman, and in nearly every occasion he brought out a save from Forster from a shot on target.

Overall, he was a total menace all day to them, he carried our front line superbly, he dealt with their physical challenge almost with ease and he opened them up time and time again.
On another day with a less fortunate goalkeeper having the game of his life, Alfie would have had a hat trick.
As it was his penalty was saved, but with more honest or at least observant officials, that penalty would have had to be retaken.

You can spin a lot of things in a lot of different ways, but today Morelos didn't have a poor game, he had an unlucky one.
In truth, our team did.
Alfredo is similar to McCoist in that he will miss a number of chances then nick one. But today he was clearly trying too hard and lost that cool clinical precision. How he reacts to today will tell us a lot about his character.
 

AdiGaz

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He was so desperate today, maybe a bit to keen and tried too hard. I was desperate for him to score as much as anybody but when players are in better positions i.e kent in the first half was the simple cut back that i believe would have been a goal and the momentum is with us.
 

SDF

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He had a bad day it happens I actually felt the worst miss was the one he ballooned over from the header back across.

He's been tremendous this season but his form has dipped at the wrong time for him and us. No more complicated than that.
He got worse as the game went on. I felt he allowed himself to get dragged into the sort of game the Tims wanted to play him at, niggly fouls, verbals, moaning to the ref rather than stick to the stuff that's saw him go up a level this season.

I still think Celtic are inside his head. There's not the same level of composure against them that he's got against other teams.
 

Herman

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I love Alfie but he let us down today especially 2nd Half his refusal to pass on occasion was infuriating too
 

bilkobear

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Alfredo is similar to McCoist in that he will miss a number of chances then nick one. But today he was clearly trying too hard and lost that cool clinical precision. How he reacts to today will tell us a lot about his character.
After almost three years with us and you have to ask that question?
 

Sir Sasa Papac

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When was the last time a single player bossed their defence like that? Finishing aside he was excellent but finishing is the most important thing and on a couple of occasions he should have shown more composure. The header in particular

A few of his shots were hit well enough and deserved to go in apart from Forster playing a blinder
 

BobbyShearer55-65

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He seems to have a mental block against them, because he wants it so much - and he knows what it means to the manager and the rest of us.

He's at his absolute best when he acts instinctively and does what comes naturally to him.

When he starts to think about it, it seems to bring an added pressure to him that messes with his natural ability.

The harder he tries, the worse he gets. By the end of the game, he was blootering it anywhere. On another day, he'd be deftly slipping it under the keeper.
 

Laudrup's Right Foot

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Do you ever tire of posting shite? Have you ever played football in your puff?

“He should have had a hat-trick”. Well no not really, he was denied by some excellent goalkeeping, he didn’t miss 6 yards out right in front of goal, he had chances that were good but not exactly sitters. He had opportunities where he forced good saves from the keeper, one being a particularly excellent save.

There is no excuse for his penalty, it was shite, he choked it and his head went thereafter, but he’ll be under enough pressure and getting enough grief without clueless fans coming out with shite like eh “he should have had a hat-trick and he’s not good enough”, as though he’s cúnted three back post tap ins. He’s dragged us through quite a lot, he’s already on 25 goals for the season and that includes goals against sides better than Celtic, but he’s ‘not good enough’? Rangers don’t need ‘fans’ like you mate.
Yes I have played football, I’d hazard a guess at a higher level than you probably have as well

You can claim Forster pulled off excellent saves but equally Morelos should have hit the net

Penalty
1 on 1 early on he only had to lift over the keeper

I’ve never stated he isn’t good enough. He’s been class. I stated not good enough as in his record against the bheasts.
 

RFC4ME

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When was the last time a single player bossed their defence like that? Finishing aside he was excellent but finishing is the most important thing and on a couple of occasions he should have shown more composure. The header in particular
Morelos - about every time he plays them, great, magic but it’s not computing to the results we need against them.
 

Great white tadpole

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He had 9 attempts at goal there full team had 4 he was piss poor in front of goal and snatched at chances everything else outside the box was very good
 

SenoraCuellar

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I think he tries too hard against them and that affects his natural ability just flowing. He's in danger of them being his bogie team.
 

fmp

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Aribo , Kent , Arfield
Barisic got in good positions but crossing was not usual standard (overhit)
Goldson strolled it until a proper striker came on , he immediately was gave away the free kick for then goal and was then rag dolled when Johnston missed a sitter.
Barker was a waste of a sub.
Aribo was OK. He didn't give Tav much help defensively but his unorthodox but effective footwork and great close control kept the ball moving when we were up against a packed defense. He didnt set the world on fire but he definitely contributed and didn't have a bad game and did not hide.

Kent was immediately doubled and tripled up on him as soon as he got the ball. I expected he would rout Frimpong but for an 18yo he is good. Very athletic and faster than Kent. Raw but his athleticism was enough to cover his mistakes (except the pen). Kent had a couple of great moments (remember him skipping past Brown and another player on the edge of the box??) and gave his all for the full 96 minutes. He didn't set the world on fire but he did not play badly and did not hide.

Arfield didn't play great but he was again not playing in his best position. He had to play in the middle of the park due to us losing Davis. I think he had an OK game despite a few terrible shots. On the whole, he wasn't BAD and he didn't hide.

Barisic mishit a few crosses definitely but he didn't play badly. I think the surface and the weather affected him later in the game. Defensively he was more than solid and he definitely did not play badly and did not hide. Also, crosses in to the box are not the way to beat Celtic. Both their center backs are tall and good in the air (although they seem to be poor at defensive set pieces).

Goldson, I don't disagree with your comments and he slid in when he shouldnt have when Edouard created the opportunity for Johnston (which wasnt a sitter).

Barker, agreed. I would have put Stewart on for Aribo BUT this would have affected our width going forward (which was our problem vs them last time at Ibrox). Gerrard put Barker on so he could move Kent central which didn't work out. I think Barker would need a run of games to find form. I would rather start him than Ojo in league games at Ibrox against bottom half teams. After all, we own him so we should be trying to get the best out of him.
 
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The Predator

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I don't think anyone faults his overall contribution but facts are he had at least 5 chances to score today and did not score any of them. I want my strikers scoring against them in cup finals. It isn't good enough.

And no I'm not suggesting we punt him either as I do love him.
 

Careca

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He’s played about a dozen times against them and never scored. You can analyse his numerous chances all you want but it’s just not good enough for a Rangers striker.
Gordon Durie never let it affect him.
 

Midfield General

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He’s played about a dozen times against them and never scored. You can analyse his numerous chances all you want but it’s just not good enough for a Rangers striker.
He's a great striker,I think the pressure to score against them is in his head a wee bit.He was trying to blast every shot into the net,including the penalty when a wee dink over the keeper or a controlled shot would have been better.I am sure Stevie G will get him to relax a bit against them next time.
 

El Buffalo

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Great post op. Alfie’s failure to score wasn’t for lack of trying. He got plenty on target but sometimes it just doesn’t happen. The pen was poor and thought him taking it wasn’t a good decision. He put in a shift though and if someone needs to be blamed, it shouldn’t be him.
 

Danger Zone

Just the tip...
Yes I have played football, I’d hazard a guess at a higher level than you probably have as well

You can claim Forster pulled off excellent saves but equally Morelos should have hit the net

Penalty
1 on 1 early on he only had to lift over the keeper

I’ve never stated he isn’t good enough. He’s been class. I stated not good enough as in his record against the bheasts.
Nah I don’t think you have mate. Your assertion that he should have had a hat-trick is the give away. I’m not claiming Forster made excellent saves, I’m telling you he did. The only chance he perhaps should have done better with was the header at be back post, he’s headed it into the ground too much which has resulted in the pace coming out of it and the ball coming back up at a nice height for the keeper. The first couple of chances he did what he should, hard and low, trouble is there’s not much to aim at when the angle is narrowed and the keeper in front of you is 6’6”. On the second chance he directs it low and hard to the corner but Foster makes a save that if it were made up the other end would have people lauding McGregor as the saviour.

No defence for the penalty, he choked, and the final chance he had his head and composure were gone by that point. Everything from the penalty onwards is worthy of criticism, but up to that point he had them o the ropes and he was unlucky. That’s before we even get it the fact he should have actually had two penalties after Scotland’s only bullet proof player got away with a blatant kick with no intention of going for the ball.
 

Mossblown_Loyal

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he was fucking atrocious against aberdeen the other night as well

if you pay 7 fucking million you have to contribute to winning games like that
so what you saying ?,, Gerrard, the fans and the board wanted him ?

I remember Laudrup, (pardon my ignorance over your age), taking time to hit top gear.

The guy scored a cracker v hamilton, been pivotal in europe.

Have you got pre ejaculation problems ?, just debating your input and trying to see it from your point of view ?
 

BlueSevenTwo

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Aribo was OK. He didn't give Tav much help defensively but his unorthodox but effective footwork and great close control kept the ball moving when we were up against a packed defense. He didnt set the world on fire but he definitely contributed and didn't have a bad game and did not hide.

Kent was immediately doubled and tripled up on him as soon as he got the ball. I expected he would rout Frimpong but for an 18yo he is good. Very athletic and faster than Kent. Raw but his athleticism was enough to cover his mistakes (except the pen). Kent had a couple of great moments (remember him skipping past Brown and another player on the edge of the box??) and gave his all for the full 96 minutes. He didn't set the world on fire but he did not play badly and did not hide.

Arfield didn't play great but he was again not playing in his best position. He had to play in the middle of the park due to us losing Davis. I think he had an OK game despite a few terrible shots. On the whole, he wasn't BAD and he didn't hide.

Barisic mishit a few crosses definitely but he didn't play badly. I think the surface and the weather affected him later in the game. Defensively he was more than solid and he definitely did not play badly and did not hide.

Goldson, I don't disagree with your comments and he slid in when he shouldnt have when Edouard created the opportunity for Johnston (which wasnt a sitter).

Barker, agreed. I would have put Stewart on for Aribo BUT this would have affected our width going forward (which was our problem vs them last time at Ibrox). Gerrard put Barker on so he could move Kent central which didn't work out. I think Barker would need a run of games to find form. I would rather start him than Ojo in league games at Ibrox against bottom half teams. After all, we own him so we should be trying to get the best out of him.
So in your opinion if a player doesn’t hide but doesn’t make a positive contribution this is different from a no show ?
 

SDF

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Gordon Durie never let it affect him.
With respect, Gordon Durie isn't in the same ball park in terms of importance or ability.

Morelos has scored more in three months that Durie managed in about 4 seasons for us.
 

BlueSevenTwo

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so what you saying ?,, Gerrard, the fans and the board wanted him ?

I remember Laudrup, (pardon my ignorance over your age), taking time to hit top gear.

The guy scored a cracker v hamilton, been pivotal in europe.

Have you got pre ejaculation problems ?, just debating your input and trying to see it from your point of view ?
Scoring crackers against Hamilton doesn’t win trophies.
 

Alpagers

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He absolutely ran them scumbags ragged today. He had four or five shots on target, three of which he made himself. Forster somehow kept them all out. Most weeks he scores one or two of these. He was brought down for the penalty and red and and we should have had at least one more penalty for fouls on him.

But he just couldn't score and I could only criticise his penalty. It must have been the most frustrating game of his life.
 

Knightswoodbear

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He’s played about a dozen times against them and never scored. You can analyse his numerous chances all you want but it’s just not good enough for a Rangers striker.
I hate to say it but I agree here. He's clearly a top class talent, he'll go for big money and have a great career but his inability to score against them is worrying. That was the best chance he'll be given. Just need to hope he does it at new year.
 

thetoptier

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so what you saying ?,, Gerrard, the fans and the board wanted him ?

I remember Laudrup, (pardon my ignorance over your age), taking time to hit top gear.

The guy scored a cracker v hamilton, been pivotal in europe.

Have you got pre ejaculation problems ?, just debating your input and trying to see it from your point of view ?
laudrup FFS
 

Teddy bear

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I see that Alfie is getting it in the neck because he never scored.
Fair enough one might think, but and there is a great big fckn but.

On three occasions Alfie caused so many problems for their defence that by himself he could have seen us awarded three penalties.
The one that we did get might well have seen Alfie in on goal with a fairly simple finish.

He was cheated from that finish, but he was the man who found the position.
Which leads me to his many chances.
Most of them were from his own clever physical play as a frontman, and in nearly every occasion he brought out a save from Forster from a shot on target.

Overall, he was a total menace all day to them, he carried our front line superbly, he dealt with their physical challenge almost with ease and he opened them up time and time again.
On another day with a less fortunate goalkeeper having the game of his life, Alfie would have had a hat trick.
As it was his penalty was saved, but with more honest or at least observant officials, that penalty would have had to be retaken.

You can spin a lot of things in a lot of different ways, but today Morelos didn't have a poor game, he had an unlucky one.
In truth, our team did.
Morelos has been brilliant, he'll move for a big fee, his overall play today was decent, he missed a few chances and that's his weakness, if he works on that he'll be a too player.
 

TNT

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The best summation I can make of today is we never won because we missed too many chances. We lost due to a diabolical decision by a linesman.

The only better Celtic player than Rangers player today was the keeper.

As for.Alfie, he kept his head up. But, he could still need a wee cuddle.
 
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