And so it continues - SPFL clubs discuss contingency plans

StevieH

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Lot of needless panic here - the precedent was set last season, even our corrupt regime wouldn’t get away with a 360 turn. Also, there is no way we wont be able to complete at least 75% of games before May, so forget null and void. The only way trouble will arise is if we’re trailing them badly and that simply isn’t going to happen given the fixture pile up.

In short, relax everyone.
Null and void would mean them not getting their 10 in a row so it ain’t going to happen as you say.

FYI, a 360 turn means you are going the same way as before you started your turn :D, but there should certainly not be a 180 deg turn.
 
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A1bertz

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They cant make an early decision as that would leave no wiggle room. Best to play along and then make a call on null and void or awarding a title when they need to ( if Celtic are behind, null and void will become flavour of the day). If Celtic are in front then of course it might be better to award as was the case last year. To go into a season and have this as an open ended item is nuts. But expected with this lot.
 
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Bluetothecore

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The fear is for them if season comes to an end due to current Covid situation and we re top this time without new powers they would have to hand it to us. but! If they get the powers they’ll come up with a way of not giving it to us Or dragging it out.
you can guarantee they won’t just go nah seasons can’t be finished so Rangers are champions!
They’re like the SNP keep having a vote until u get what they want.
 

Leif Erikson

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Are they looking for carte blanche again? Then they'll be quite rightly told to fuck off again.

The protocol should have been set in place before the season started because we all knew covid would inevitably cause disruption again. It's pretty simple stuff and something you'd hope someone earning 400k a year would understand.
 

Beer Belly Loyal

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LOL 133

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Null and void would mean them not getting their 10 in a row so it ain’t going to happen as you say.

FYI, a 360 turn means you are going the same way as before you started your turn :D, but there should certainly not be a 180 deg turn.

I agree 110%. Smileys dont work.
 
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Erik Bo Selecta Anderson

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weetam3106

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I’m afraid some of you expect fairness and equity. We are not dealing with people who play by the rules, they make the rules to suit their preferred outcome.
If we remain ahead when the league is stopped they will state that this season is different to last due to The fact that <insert made up pish here>.

1. last year was called because the beaks couldn’t see that games would return before the summer.

2. Celtic bribed Dundee to change their vote.

This year it’s unlikely sport will be ceased but we may end up with such a high backlog of games due to postponements that Lawwell and Doncaster will work out a way to void the league.

this of course will only kick in if we are in pole position.

do not expect fairness.
 

Paulski54

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I’m afraid some of you expect fairness and equity. We are not dealing with people who play by the rules, they make the rules to suit their preferred outcome.
If we remain ahead when the league is stopped they will state that this season is different to last due to The fact that <insert made up pish here>.

1. last year was called because the beaks couldn’t see that games would return before the summer.

2. Celtic bribed Dundee to change their vote.

This year it’s unlikely sport will be ceased but we may end up with such a high backlog of games due to postponements that Lawwell and Doncaster will work out a way to void the league.

this of course will only kick in if we are in pole position.

do not expect fairness.
Amen to that
 

norm1890

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So this has taken till mid October, full round of fixtures and it is intent to hold a consultation , the outline of which they do not seem to have. So that probably will not be out till November. It is complete mismanagement.
 

DavieM

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They probably thought the bheasts would win at the weekend, hence the clubs all having a meeting today to discuss it.

Be interesting to see what happens if the country goes into full lockdown again. Would they look to postpone it until we came out of lockdown as I don't see them looking to call it so early in the season.

I think the Nations League matches coming up next month plus the Scotland play-off could be in serious doubt if things continue the way they are in Europe.
 

steve1873

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Why in the name of fu'ck was this not discussed and agreed upon prior to the season starting?

It's hardly an event that couldn't be foreseen given we just had the exact situation play out a matter of months ago!
 

Snakehips

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It would be better to have rules put in place asap, that way no-one can change or interpret the rules further down the line when it suits (or suits the Tims). It makes sense to try and avoid the corrupt mess of last season. As long as clubs are involved in discussions and there is an fairly cast iron and fair agreement, then it makes sense. What is important is the small print, and ensuring any of Fat Rod’s vague wordplay is 100% clear and concise.

At the moment, there will be no desire at all to end the season prematurely, from anyone’s perspective, us or them. You would lose TV money, sponsorship (both club and league), possible season ticket refunds, plus the SFA would be finished as well with no Cup or International games.

Lawwell will care much more about the balance sheet than any 9.75 in a row award, so no chance he will be thinking of trying to end the season in the near future, regardless if they start dropping points. If we get to February or March then they may start to think that way, but not now. Even then, you would think it would take government directive to stop football, given we are getting on with it just now.

As much as I don’t trust them one iota, it does make sense to at least try and avoid what happened last season, and that means fair, clear and consistent rules put in place. They know they got away with their corruption by the skin of their teeth last year, and they might be wary of going down that route again.
 

DavieM

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So this has taken till mid October, full round of fixtures and it is intent to hold a consultation , the outline of which they do not seem to have. So that probably will not be out till November. It is complete mismanagement.

They have already been knocked back before the season started - this is them trying to take the power away from the clubs and have some sort of guidelines/hard rules in place that have to be followed.
 

Remo-town

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My, we do like a drama on here. The rest of the football world is carrying on, even with some fans.

Yet here we are talking about the league being called. Behave ffs.
 

Bangersbc

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Well if Rangers don’t want the season to be declared early all we have to do is remain on top, then there is no chance of it happening.

Why do I get the feeling (in that case) the SPFL will find our arguments from last season very compelling and null and void the season?

Until celtic scrape ahead of course... Either way it's for the sake of sporting integrity of course!
 

Tim Hunter

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Not really a big problem. There is little chance of reaching the levels we were at in March/April.
No reason whatsoever for elite sport to be stopped.
There was no reason to call the season then either, almost every other league managed to complete.
The main issue is that Liverpool, with an even more commanding lead than Celtc, were saying that they would be unwilling to accept a title that had not been "won".
The fenian cabal could not wait in case that is what happened, since they could not permit Celtc to then claim the SPL title.
So they forced through the corrupt Dundee vote to empower them to call the league immediately.
 

Cutty/Young

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Absolutely ironic Doncaster talking about worries of fixture congestion when him and Maxwell are happy to continue a tournament from last season which would have freed up a full weekend, even more stupid is there will be two Scottish cup finals in the same season,we all know why the Scottish cup wasn't cancelled.

When also are they going to tell the mankies to play their outstanding game against the sheep ? Now given they are worried about not having time to play these fixtures and having to find a free week, why ? They didn't have a problem making Rangers play all these games in a week, so why are they not doing the same with the mankies and making them play the game in hand regardless, claiming they can't squeeze it in because they are playing on a Thursday and then a Sunday, so why can't they play it on a Tuesday just like they made us do.

It cost us the league, but pretty sure they made us play on the Sunday,Tuesday,European final on the Thursday,Scottish cup final on the Saturday and a midweek game against the sheep,pretty sure that's what they done.

Are they giving them a hand by not putting any pressure on them to play it or are they just waiting till they are knocked out of Europe and then a free midweek.
 

Gibraltar Loyal

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We've played each other once with no fans so really thete is no home advantage as such. So just call it. Give us the league and we can concentrate on Europe and the cup comps. Win win if you ask me
 

Cutty/Young

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It doesn't matter what you say. You don't have a vote

They will vote however they choose.
If it happened now they would null and void the league simply because of the amount of fixtures played, Rangers during 1939/40 had played 5 matches, top of the table,war broke out and the league was declared void.

Think the last thing they would do is void the league and stop it, that would do serious damage to Scottish football financially and loads of clubs who are struggling to keep their heads above water right now, they wouldn't survive and go to the wall, SKY would want their money back which in turn would bankrupt the SFA.

Voiding the league also does nothing to help our own club,players still have to be paid,maintenence costs for Ibrox and the training ground and there would also be a huge problem if people who had paid for virtual season tickets no longer got anything for their money after just a few games, that alone would test the resolve of any loyal Rangers fan regardless.

The main jist I got was they were speaking about awarding teams 3-0 wins in the event another team withdrew due to covid, absolutely no chance the league will be ended.
 

Kbhblue

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Presumably they'll issue a statement along the lines of...

"We are very embarrassed that we called the league early last year only to find most other leagues in Europe were able to complete their outstanding fixtures."
 

Blue Skies At Night

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If it happened now they would null and void the league simply because of the amount of fixtures played, Rangers during 1939/40 had played 5 matches, top of the table,war broke out and the league was declared void.

Think the last thing they would do is void the league and stop it, that would do serious damage to Scottish football financially and loads of clubs who are struggling to keep their heads above water right now, they wouldn't survive and go to the wall, SKY would want their money back which in turn would bankrupt the SFA.

Voiding the league also does nothing to help our own club,players still have to be paid,maintenence costs for Ibrox and the training ground and there would also be a huge problem if people who had paid for virtual season tickets no longer got anything for their money after just a few games, that alone would test the resolve of any loyal Rangers fan regardless.

The main jist I got was they were speaking about awarding teams 3-0 wins in the event another team withdrew due to covid, absolutely no chance the league will be ended.
If it were not for their massive wage bill that needs serviced, I have no doubt they'd burn the place to the ground calling null & void if it meant they could still had a chance at their fabled 10. In fact, considering the champs league spot would still be up for grabs too, it might be a net+ worth risking anyway. There is no act too low for those rats.
 

Cutty/Young

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If it were not for their massive wage bill that needs serviced, I have no doubt they'd burn the place to the ground calling null & void if it meant they could still had a chance at their fabled 10. In fact, considering the champs league spot would still be up for grabs too, it might be a net+ worth risking anyway. There is no act too low for those rats.
If it were null and void they wouldn't get the chance to win 10, It would be gone.

But given the sad obsession they have, If they knew they weren't winning the league they would be demanding the league was declared null and void to stop us winning the league.

We've already seen how far the SFA will go to help them along with the SPFL, awarding league titles and also continuing with a tournament that should have been scrapped last season. At least one competition should have been scrapped this season in either the league cup or Scottish cup, that would have given them the much needed free weeks that they are so concerned about, pretty sure their are no league cup or Scottish cup sponsors to disapoint and no money would need be given back and would have solved any problems of free weeks incase teams have to postpone games and played at a later date.
 

Blue Skies At Night

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If it were null and void they wouldn't get the chance to win 10, It would be gone.

But given the sad obsession they have, If they knew they weren't winning the league they would be demanding the league was declared null and void to stop us winning the league.

We've already seen how far the SFA will go to help them along with the SPFL, awarding league titles and also continuing with a tournament that should have been scrapped last season. At least one competition should have been scrapped this season in either the league cup or Scottish cup, that would have given them the much needed free weeks that they are so concerned about, pretty sure their are no league cup or Scottish cup sponsors to disapoint and no money would need be given back and would have solved any problems of free weeks incase teams have to postpone games and played at a later date.
The claim of 10 should already be gone as last season was called before it was mathematically won, yet it's still all we hear about. So rest assured, they'll still cling onto it regardless of validity. I agree with the rest of that though.
 
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