Andre Gray

BlueHornet

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I get that he was impressive four years ago, when he was better than he is now and our defence was a awful lot worse, but as a Watford season ticket holder, he is not what we need. I want him to leave Watford, but please, to anywhere but us.
He is not awful, but he has no great pace, poor touch and not a natural finisher. The worst bits of Morelos and Defoe combined.
 

Tagsbear

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I get that he was impressive four years ago, when he was better than he is now and our defence was a awful lot worse, but as a Watford season ticket holder, he is not what we need. I want him to leave Watford, but please, to anywhere but us.
He is not awful, but he has no great pace, poor touch and not a natural finisher. The worst bits of Morelos and Defoe combined.
That’s fair enough, most people are going on what he used to be like, because then he had all the things you list.
 

Alex Venters

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Even though you’ve not seen him play, going by your earlier question?
I remember him at Brentford.
He certainly didn't pull up any trees at Burnley. He can't get a game at relegated Watford.
People look at him being transferred for £9m and equate that to him being a good footballer.
He is nothing of the sort.
 

Albertz_Was_King

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A fully fit on form Andre Gray would be a great signing.
I just think his style of play wouldn’t suit us at all mate.

We would be asking him to do things he wouldn’t be capable or comfortable doing. We’ve been there before with players of a high profile and good career behind them who have failed due to being unable to do what is required.

Not all players suit all systems and all clubs.

Gray and Rangers are not a good fit in my humble opinion.
 

BlueHornet

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I remember him at Brentford.
He certainly didn't pull up any trees at Burnley. He can't get a game at relegated Watford.
People look at him being transferred for £9m and equate that to him being a good footballer.
He is nothing of the sort.
Brentford was a long, long time ago. That player is not what we would be signing now.
 

Grigo Yossarian

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I get that he was impressive four years ago, when he was better than he is now and our defence was a awful lot worse, but as a Watford season ticket holder, he is not what we need. I want him to leave Watford, but please, to anywhere but us.
He is not awful, but he has no great pace, poor touch and not a natural finisher. The worst bits of Morelos and Defoe combined.
That’s really good insight BH. A lot of us including me are basing opinions on a number of years ago so yours is much more relevant.
 

JimmyGQ

Active Member
Really, fully fit and on form? He absolutely would be, I assume you never seen him when he was or you wouldn’t be saying that.

He’s been fully fit for most of his career with Burnley and Watford. And he’s not been on form for five years. His biggest asset which was his pace seems to have declined sharply. Other than one good championship season in 2015, I’m not sure why there would be much to celebrate about signing a 29 year old who hasn’t kicked a ball in five years that’s hated by fans of a team that was just relegated from the Premier League
 

LD5

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My point exactly.
He's bombed everywhere he's been since then. This allied to questions on his off field living mean it's a huge no for me.
He definitely didn't bomb at Burnley and done not bad his first 2 seasons at Watford from memory. It is a bit of a gamble that he picks that form back up again but to say he only done well at Brentford is a lie.

And what questions on his off field living? Cause he made a daft tweet like 8 years ago?
 

Alex Venters

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He definitely didn't bomb at Burnley and done not bad his first 2 seasons at Watford from memory. It is a bit of a gamble that he picks that form back up again but to say he only done well at Brentford is a lie.

And what questions on his off field living? Cause he made a daft tweet like 8 years ago?
Look, we obviously have different opinions on the guy. I think he's poor and totally unsuited to our set up.
You are entitled to your own opinion, even if it's wrong...lol.
 

BlueHornet

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That’s really good insight BH. A lot of us including me are basing opinions on a number of years ago so yours is much more relevant.
I get that a child’s view is not ideal, but my 10 year old smacked his head against the table in disbelief when I said we were linked with him. His elder brother, at 15, laughed.
This is just to give you some context of how the fifa generation, who have seen Andre Gray play, view him.

We can do so much better.
 

LD5

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Look, we obviously have different opinions on the guy. I think he's poor and totally unsuited to our set up.
You are entitled to your own opinion, even if it's wrong...lol.
I'm not questioning whether people think he suits us or if he is poor, but if he bombed at Burnley they wouldn't have sold him for £18m and he had a 1 in 4 record 2 seasons ago which isn't bad at all for Watford.
 

Alex Venters

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I'm not questioning whether people think he suits us or if he is poor, but if he bombed at Burnley they wouldn't have sold him for £18m and he had a 1 in 4 record 2 seasons ago which isn't bad at all for Watford.
In the English market, money has no real relevance.
 

Gascoigne

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Not in the market for duds though, are we?
Duds? How many of Gerrard’s signings have been fringe players for their club we signed them from? Off the top of my head, Goldson, Kent, Defoe, Barker, Bassey, Etc. Even Hagi wasn’t a regular starter for Genk.

We need to be realistic about what we can afford and the appeal of playing in Scottish football. It’s easy for us to turn our noses up at Gray, Maja etc, but what are people expecting us to be able to attract and more importantly, afford? The reality is it’s likely we will be signing people on the fringes of their team, or young untested players. People need to reel in their demands and expectations. It’s not 1999.
 

Alex Venters

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Duds? How many of Gerrard’s signings have been fringe players for their club we signed them from? Off the top of my head, Goldson, Kent, Defoe, Barker, Bassey, Etc. Even Hagi wasn’t a regular starter for Genk.

We need to be realistic about what we can afford and the appeal of playing in Scottish football. It’s easy for us to turn our noses up at Gray, Maja etc, but what are people expecting us to be able to attract and more importantly, afford? The reality is it’s likely we will be signing people on the fringes of their team, or young untested players. People need to reel in their demands and expectations. It’s not 1999.
I'd certainly not turn my nose up at Maja.
Gray is not for Rangers.
 

Thebearman

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I remember him at Brentford.
He certainly didn't pull up any trees at Burnley. He can't get a game at relegated Watford.
People look at him being transferred for £9m and equate that to him being a good footballer.
He is nothing of the sort.
Pretty much sums up my thoughts! Far to much of a gamble for me
 

Kratos

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There's a lot of parallels to their signing of Scott Sinclair.
Top championship player who after a decent first season in the PL gets a big money move, doesn't work out and ends up relegated.

Sure we'd all be happy if Gray could match the success of Sinclair.
 

TPP

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Watford went full basket last season, but year before he played nearly every game and scored 9 goals. He’s just turned 29 last month.

people are batshit mental ifthey don’t think he could make an impact up here
 

TPP

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May I, respectfully, request that you have a look in the nearest mirror in regards to fuckwittery
look all you want, it’ll be drowned in fuckwit statements like he didn’t make an impact at Burnley, when he was championship player of the year and golden boot winner winning the league with 8 goals in the remaining games. You’ve made an absolute tit of yourself. You have absolutely no credibility left.
 

Alex Venters

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look all you want, it’ll be drowned in fuckwit statements like he didn’t make an impact at Burnley, when he was championship player of the year and golden boot winner winning the league with 8 goals in the remaining games. You’ve made an absolute tit of yourself. You have absolutely no credibility left.
Rock on bro.
The guy is a dud and will hopefully be nowhere near our team.
 
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