Total respect for any player who had him sussed from day one and were actively working to get him out ASAP.
Nothing more than muck raking imo , seems it’s all a big laugh now but I’d rather the likes of Halliday remembered his own abject failures during that period because I certainly do and none of it is funny.
We were all praying that it was somehow going to work. There must be something we don't know about this great man that our board does know.I've been hearing the Pedro stories that Halliday has told and find them funny and immediately after the sadness floods that we actually went there in the first place.
Such a bonkers appointment.
Surely not?This in spades.
"Nice guy who did his best" "It wasn't his fault he was out his depth". The chancer knew what he was doing from that first interview and didn't care if he ran the club into the ground. It was all about getting his own name in lights.
It's no doubt been a sore few weeks for the poster on here who still maintains that he would have done just as good a job as Gerrard if given time.
Just a point on Pedro ... yes he wasted millions on the Mexicans but that money will be recouped when we sell Morelos
“Ah but Morelos was a JJ signing” ... well he may have been recommended by JJ but Pedro was the man that sanctioned the signing and took the gamble on JJ’s word so ultimately he was a Pedro signing as much as some on here won’t like to admit
List them, sunshine. Because no one individual was culpable.
Halliday never, ever, EVER hid.
Right, because that's how football works. There's no damage done so long as you can one day recoup the money. Caixinha's lazy attempt at rebuilding didn't set the club back years at all.
List them, sunshine. Because no one individual was culpable.
Halliday never, ever, EVER hid.
What has hiding got to do with anything?
Let’s be honest, Halliday was ok for us in the championship but we’ll out of his depth in the SPL and was part of a team that took regular batterings from the bheasts.
He was part of some of the worst results we’ve had so let’s not rewrite history by pretending he was a great signing just because he didn’t hide.
If he wasn’t born on the Copland Road he wouldn’t have half of the defence put up for him by posters on here
It is funny to hear but at the same time, doesn’t sit right with me hearing ex players slaughter an ex manager regardless of his failings
If it was a legend that played under Pedro and had a clash fair enough but whilst Pedro failed with us, Halliday wasn’t exactly a sensation for us either.
As I said, funny story but part of me doesn’t feel comfortable watching former players slag off a manager in that manner especially given how dignified Pedro has been since leaving
Nice guy that did his best, wasn't his fault he was out of his depth could easily be said about Andy Halliday to be honest.This in spades.
"Nice guy who did his best" "It wasn't his fault he was out his depth". The chancer knew what he was doing from that first interview and didn't care if he ran the club into the ground. It was all about getting his own name in lights.
It's no doubt been a sore few weeks for the poster on here who still maintains that he would have done just as good a job as Gerrard if given time.
Don’t put words into my mouth.
One of the biggest criticisms of Pedro is the signings of Herrera and Pena. Fully justified.
But equally he was the manager who sanctioned the signing of a player that will likely go for a record selling fee for us
This board will be forever remembered for being saviours - I will also remember this shambles, the Mcinnes debacle and the shambles preceding it with Warburton and Weir. Rank amateurism at its finest.
Who in their right mind would listen to Pedro and think, YES! This is the guy to stop Brenda. Then hand him a cheque book.
I do agree that I would rather AH and BF leave the colourful language at the door, but its who they are and its no different to what you hear in the stands, and in the changing room.
Still would like to have seen BF in a coaching role at the club, regardless of some people’s opinions on his columns - he is honest and speaks his mind.
Halliday rarely let us down in all honesty. I cant really remember a game where I think “wtf was he doing? He is a joke”.Nice guy that did his best, wasn't his fault he was out of his depth could easily be said about Andy Halliday to be honest.
This, the guy made a lot of money from Rangers and would be received a decent wedge to go. He was a laughing stock.Surely not?
The guy was a complete fraud and that was clear from the outset.
What had Gerrard shown?What on earth has Barry shown to suggest he should be anywhere near our coaching setup?
"if the likes of Halliday could remember his own abject failures"
Teams fail, individuals do not. Thus, my point being that he never hid and always gave it his all.
This in spades.
"Nice guy who did his best" "It wasn't his fault he was out his depth". The chancer knew what he was doing from that first interview and didn't care if he ran the club into the ground. It was all about getting his own name in lights.
It's no doubt been a sore few weeks for the poster on here who still maintains that he would have done just as good a job as Gerrard if given time.
What had Gerrard shown?
SG got the job based on his growing reputation as a youth coach and his personality as well as achievements as a player.
BF has plenty of coaching experience with Blackpool, Fleetwood, Clyde and his current role. Experience doesnt demand a role, I get that argument but you could say same of Mccoist, Lovenkrands, Thomson, Vignal etc too.
The fact that no one lost their job over that shambles (and the subsequent McInnes and Murty debacles) is even more bonkers.I've been hearing the Pedro stories that Halliday has told and find them funny and immediately after the sadness floods that we actually went there in the first place.
Such a bonkers appointment.
That was a different manager ....These people sit laughing that the manager doesn't know what he's doing whilst appearing oblivious to the fact that this manager thinks they are the ones good enough to bring success back to Rangers.
If Halliday had been more concerned about improving his own game so the Celtic fans wouldn't be laughing at him and chanting his name rather than laughing at the manager he might have done better.
That little clique within that dressing room needed gutted and now that it has been we are starting to see a bit more success.
I dont follow your thinking... can you explain a bit more please? (Not being sarcastic I am genuinely intrigued)I'll say this, that clip right there is why Ferguson should never ever be near our club in coaching capacity.
A guy who cannot be trusted.
What had Gerrard shown?
SG got the job based on his growing reputation as a youth coach and his personality as well as achievements as a player.
BF has plenty of coaching experience with Blackpool, Fleetwood, Clyde and his current role. Experience doesnt demand a role, I get that argument but you could say same of Mccoist, Lovenkrands, Thomson, Vignal etc too.
You didnt talk about that, you spoke about his coaching ability? Plenty of managers have made mistakes as players - that shouldnt be used as a stick to beat them with. Rather look at it as a learning curve that he can then utilise. the scotland issue aside, the LeGuen debacle he was completely right IMO.Gerrard wasn’t a ned at Liverpool who got stripped of the captaincy not once but twice.
I dont follow your thinking... can you explain a bit more please? (Not being sarcastic I am genuinely intrigued)
Rightly so!We need to remember that Pedro didn’t appoint himself. Mibbee there’s some others who could take a bit of responsibility for the debacle that was his time at Ibrox.
And I have to say that Ferguson was a bit of a shit himself during the PLG days.
You mean Peter Lawwell's son?The mentally challengeds making and watching that show will be having a good laugh at us too.
Well with retrospect, I think he would be glad he didnt get it? Would you want to be associated with the Portuguese Pretender?Not for the first time and it won't be the last time he's shown he can't keep his mouth shut when it comes to club matters.
"Ahm glad a never goat it" Aye, no bother Barry. That's why you were in the papers days after it greeting about not getting the job.
As for Halliday, deserves credit for his turnaround under Gerrard but let's not forget him and a sizeable chunk of the dressing room chucked it towards the end of the 16/17 season. Their performance in 1-5 humping at Ibrox was a perfect example of this.
It's pretty well known that Ferguson was leaking a lot of info during the Le Guen fiasco.I dont follow your thinking... can you explain a bit more please? (Not being sarcastic I am genuinely intrigued)
Halliday rarely let us down in all honesty. I cant really remember a game where I think “wtf was he doing? He is a joke”.
On the flip, I remember exactly that with Pedro - on his first game at HT! Lol