Are we too nice to be champs?

Route 55

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Seen a lot comments citing certain players shouldn't play away in tough matches i.e. Ojo taking it tight all over the gaff, this got me thinking about our meek mentality and how we do not seem to have any nastiness in us.

Morelos has petulance but I personally feel we do not have that many fighters up for a battle and willing to do the dirty tackling within our ranks.

The only guy`s i can think of that will go through a tackle and leave it all in there is Jack, McCrorie & Flanagan, no one else comes close to having a nasty streak of bone crunching tackles in them.

I know Jacks out but we need our battlers for these hammer throwing competitions and guys like Ojo, Tav, Aribo, Kamara, Davis etc you would not pin any kind of hard act on them or would they be able to do so if asked, i feel.

Successful teams always seem to have that wee edge of great ability and hardiness, we do seem a little lacking in the latter. Thoughts?

Probably waffling dung but just an observation.
 

RabSpackman

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There’s an element of that. We have a lot of great attributes in this squad - lots of skill, pace, goals and a cracking goalkeeper.

We lack a nasty bastard whose presence on the pitch makes other teams think twice before taking turns to clatter our centre forward.
 

SuperGers07

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We've dropped our first away points of the season.

I feel like I'm in a minority in thinking that this ISNT suddenly a fullblown crisis.

I think the frustration boils down to, we now are set to have a sustained period of away league games over the next 2 months. Celtic are mostly at home, they don't lose home games.

Logic says we will be going to parkhead end of december looking at them a number of points clear.
 

Route 55

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What is it you want? A player/players who are going to injure opponents, cynically foul and play dirty?
I want players to go into 50/50`s convincingly, i want players to tackle with gusto and strength. I do not want dirty bastards throughout the 11 but we need that fear in the squad.
Yesterday that big numpty striker of theirs bullied every one he came near, not one glove was laid on him by us, nullify him that takes their game-plan and flushes it down the lavvy, im not saying injure him but somebody needed to give him a reminder.
 

Route 55

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We've dropped our first away points of the season.

I feel like I'm in a minority in thinking that this ISNT suddenly a fullblown crisis.
It will be a crisis if we continue with the performances away from home as undoubtedly we will be found wanting more often than not.
 

Bothwell Street Bear

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Are the tarriers too nice to be champs?

from where I’m sitting they’re top by virtue of scoring one more goal - exact same stats otherwise.

some of the players are off form and needs sorted.

other than that, we’ve been playing some amazing football so far this season!

the panty wetting on here is unreal!
 

Route 55

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Are the tarriers too nice to be champs?

from where I’m sitting they’re top by virtue of scoring one more goal - exact same stats otherwise.

some of the players are off form and needs sorted.

other than that, we’ve been playing some amazing football so far this season!

the panty wetting on here is unreal!
Away from home we have been below par, and who gives a %^*& about the tarriers im talking about us.
 

Barryhopez

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I want players to go into 50/50`s convincingly, i want players to tackle with gusto and strength. I do not want dirty bastards throughout the 11 but we need that fear in the squad.
Yesterday that big numpty striker of theirs bullied every one he came near, not one glove was laid on him by us, nullify him that takes their game-plan and flushes it down the lavvy, im not saying injure him but somebody needed to give him a reminder.
That's the kind of Scottish football 'hammer thrower' mentality that is constantly complained about on here, tbh.
 

SuperGers07

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Are the tarriers too nice to be champs?

from where I’m sitting they’re top by virtue of scoring one more goal - exact same stats otherwise.

some of the players are off form and needs sorted.

other than that, we’ve been playing some amazing football so far this season!

the panty wetting on here is unreal!
perhaps it's an overreaction, on paper however, we have had the more easier start in the league given a lot of games have been at home.

After this weekend, the tims have a sustained period of home games coming up. They don't lose at home and therefore will be looking to take maximum points up til they play us.

Can we do similar away from home?
 

Route 55

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That's the kind of Scottish football 'hammer thrower' mentality that is constantly complained about on here, tbh.
Unfortunately the hammer thrower attitude is going nowhere so we need that type within our ranks for the away battles.
 

Jimmy Jazz

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Last minute winner v Kilmarnock, 6-1 v Hibs and 5-0 v Aberdeen would suggest we're making progress on that front, but still a lot of work to do.
 

Its-Sebo

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I think the frustration boils down to, we now are set to have a sustained period of away league games over the next 2 months. Celtic are mostly at home, they don't lose home games.

Logic says we will be going to parkhead end of december looking at them a number of points clear.
I don’t think the frustration boils down to that at all – how can you be preemptively angry at something?

Yesterday was shïte, people are right to be angry at the result and performance, but the lack of perspective (from mostly grown men on here) is utterly embarrassing.

Why does one draw suddenly mean everyone is shïte, the squad’s shïte, we’ve a team full of shïtebags, we’ve no leaders etc. etc.?
 

Barryhopez

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Why does one draw suddenly mean everyone is shïte, the squad’s shïte, we’ve a team full of shïtebags, we’ve no leaders etc. etc.?
It's quite worrying IF that is what folk genuinely think and they are not just trying to oudo each other with who can appear more angry.
 

Bluebrox

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The three shite results this season against the tarriers, Young Boys and yesterday all left me raging at the sheer ineptitude of our performance, both individually and as a team. No points should have been dropped in any of these games, especially when the opposition were nothing special at all.
 

DoubleWhopper

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I think the frustration boils down to, we now are set to have a sustained period of away league games over the next 2 months. Celtic are mostly at home, they don't lose home games.

Logic says we will be going to parkhead end of december looking at them a number of points clear.
It was always going to be a difficult run though.

What astonishes me is that people are somehow surprised that we toiled at Tynecastle. Like this result came out of the blue. There were threads on here plotting how we ought to be taking maximum points from our next 7 games starting at Hearts. Utter lunacy.

Away games are tough. Celtic got 1 point from 6 in their last two, which whipped us up into a frenzy that it was "our year". Now we've dropped points. Not for the last time this season either I'm sorry to report.

We are exactly where we were before Tynecastle - that is to say, in a title race. There will be swings and roundabouts all throughout the season. There are days when the "Title party in George Square" threads will surface, and days when threads like this one will surface.

Yesterday was no different from dozens of other Rangers away performances since 2016. I just don't get the general sense of astonishment about it. You're right about the situation in the run up to the 29th December - because we aren't going to get there via Pittodrie, Easter Road, Almondvale and Fir Park without dropping points. Nothing any Rangers team has done since we got back up suggests we'd be capable of getting 12 from 12 in that run. Celtic have already had two of those trips and emerged with only 1 point.
 

SuperGers07

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It's quite worrying IF that is what folk genuinely think and they are not just trying to oudo each other with who can appear more angry.

the only thing I feel anger toward yesterday is the error at their goal.

Totally avoidable. But it's continually happening, Tav's head is gone. And we can;t drop him as his output is worth a lot to us on the field. But when his errors are now costing us a goal every single time, what can be done?

Just clear the ball, all he has to do in each and every one he's made in the last 3 weeks. All three goals were utterly avoidable, yet dismal goals to give away.
 

DoubleWhopper

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Standard over reaction from some. Have avoided this forum for this reason.
I logged on last night and immediately regretted it.

The good thing with the European campaign is people move on relatively quickly. By tommorow it will be all focus on Porto.

What frustrates me is not so much the points people make as the sudden, visceral swings in mood. Like a mentally disturbed child. When things go our way people are, like I said above, planning title parties in October. Then we draw a game and its complete doom and gloom. I don't get how some of these people never considered the possibility that there are tough away games we'd toil in.
 

Bothwell Street Bear

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Away from home we have been below par, and who gives a %^*& about the tarriers im talking about us.
Our first dropped points away from home so far!

why wait for yesterday to happen before sharing your concerns about our away form?

our ‘away form’ isn’t the issue. The issue is our captain landing us in it consistently!
 

Its-Sebo

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It's quite worrying IF that is what folk genuinely think and they are not just trying to oudo each other with who can appear more angry.
The thing is we might find out the team don’t have the bottle and/or aren’t good enough – but so far we’re having a good season and things are pointing to the opposite being true.

The usual logic always applies on here, it only counts as a ‘test’ if we don’t pass it.

Aberdeen after they dropped points was clearly a test on a number of levels (character, ability etc.) and we smashed it – so because we passed the ‘test’ it isn’t considered as a test anymore and isn’t used to judge character, leadership or bottle.

Same applies to Kilmarnock, Hamilton the other week,Midtjylland, Legia, Feyenoord and so on – but because we drop points at Tynecastle that’s suddenly the first real test since the last time we dropped points.
 

Recoba

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the only thing I feel anger toward yesterday is the error at their goal.

Totally avoidable. But it's continually happening, Tav's head is gone. And we can;t drop him as his output is worth a lot to us on the field. But when his errors are now costing us a goal every single time, what can be done?

Just clear the ball, all he has to do in each and every one he's made in the last 3 weeks. All three goals were utterly avoidable, yet dismal goals to give away.
We can drop him ! he is not above being dropped, he is offering nothing just now going forward either, he needs taken out of the firing line for a few games and then re-evaluate it in a few weeks.

We can still win games without Tav in the team
 
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Bothwell Street Bear

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perhaps it's an overreaction, on paper however, we have had the more easier start in the league given a lot of games have been at home.

After this weekend, the tims have a sustained period of home games coming up. They don't lose at home and therefore will be looking to take maximum points up til they play us.

Can we do similar away from home?
In the away games coming up, I reckon we can.

granted livi away is a tough venue, but we’ve shown recently we can win there. I don’t have concerns about taking care of Ross county and Hamilton away.

going back to the point I made yesterday on another thread, league winning teams have dropped points away at hearts before. It’s a tough place to go. doesn’t mean we’re not good enough to win the league, as I see others speculate.

there’s no harm in dropping points there.

the overreaction every time rangers dare not win a game, is mental.

All boils down to one loss of concentration, again. If Tav doesn’t have a brain fart, we win yesterday.

still have, arguably, our best players to come back/find match fitness, in Jack and Kent.

our title credentials aren’t the issue imo. The form of our captain is and that’s my only concern at this moment..

not if we’re too soft.
 

Walters80

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I think at times we really lack that Souness type who could play but also roll the sleeves up and get fired into opposing players when the need arises.
 
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