Arsenal to pay Willian £220,000 a week despite staff cuts2

sandy102uk

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Back in the day Arsenal were a well run club and seemed to act with dignity and respect. A very "traditional" club.

Modern day Arsenal seems to be a club with a collection of weirdo's who go about their business in a pretty wanky way - on and off the field.

The club seem to have lost quite a bit of their identity. I know some of their more old-school hardcore fans and they are very disillusioned.

On the whole, Arsenal are just a bit meh.
Back in the day no-one used a "word" like meh. Times change.
 

martyboy92

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Playing devils advocate but the staff that are losing their jobs it might not be for finical reasons and yes it’s disgusting in this climate
Completely understand if it's catering/security for fans that aren't allowed in the stands but it still looks awful. For the sake of a few weeks or months for average Joe's wage they wouldn't miss it until fans are allowed back in.
 

Brady84

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Man Utd are loaded with debt, Arsenal aren't.
How are you defining debt here?

Kroenke owes ~600m from the takeover, Kroenke owns the stadium & Arsenal are still paying back the 200m loan on it (that was re-financed the other week) , Arsenal 'the club' are a subsidiary of his company so while they don't directly have any debt, they don't have any income either as the land,stadium,matchday,merch,commercial etc are all owned by other company's/subsidiarys of Kroenke & not by the actual club
He's got his fingers in every piece of the pie like fat mike to pay off the close to a billion He/Arsenal/ Arsenal Holdings plc are on the hook for
 

willg89

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Must be depressing for Arsenal fans whose club just seems to be a retirement home for ex-Chelsea players these days while their West End rivals hoover up the likes of Werner and Havertz.

Going to take some stopping this year I feel, Chelsea, while Arsenal will probably plod along around upper mid-table again albeit with a slightly tighter defence.
 

Colinrfc2

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I thought most of the redundancies were from the scouting department and was planned for a while and wouldn't players wages be from a different budget than non playing staff?
Although Willians wages look obscene over the 3 years they will still have payed less than half of Pepes transfer fee
 

Papac

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Every company in the world will make ground floor staff redundant while spending obscene amounts on middle management upwards.
 

Johansen

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Seriously if i was an Arsenal fan i wouldn't go near the place after hearing of that package to any player after they had redundancies. Tell 's me that they don't give a flying for the ordinary working person.
 

Aaritalo

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Shouldn't be allowed. You cut jobs, you can't buy players should be the rule. Unfortunately nobody in charge gives two fucks about the people's game.

It's actually depressing tbh, and if Man City v PSG ends up the final of the CL I'd rather not watch it.

Fair enough I've had a bevvy so I probably will, but %^*& whatever game they are playing- i'd sooner watch the dundee derby than the shite down south.
 

dekcuf

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32 and a three year contract at £220k a week is mental. Will probably have a decent year next year but not worth that money
 

willowbankbear

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Willian will earn an astonishing £220,000 a week at Arsenal after he completes his free transfer from Chelsea, with the contract expected to be signed off by Sunday.

Sportsmail can reveal a deal in principle has been agreed for some time and the 32-year-old Brazilian will be rewarded handsomely.

Willian’s basic weekly salary will be lower than at Chelsea, but once a huge signing-on fee is factored in — along with loyalty payments and other bonuses throughout the three-year contract’s duration — the staggering mark will be hit.

The vast sums involved raise questions after Arsenal’s announcement last week that they are proposing to make 55 members of staff redundant.

Insiders say Willian’s unveiling was put back because of the ‘poor optics’ if it had followed hot on the heels of the job-cuts statement. Arsenal deny that is the case.

Nevertheless, to commit to spending what could end up being around £35million on a veteran player shortly after the redundancy proposal is bound to go down badly. The deal is also set to feature an option for a fourth year.

Sources added that only an unexpected turn of events would stop the deal being concluded this weekend, meaning Willian — who won the Premier League twice in a glittering Chelsea spell — can shortly start training with his Arsenal team-mates ahead of the new campaign, which starts on September 12.

He would have got nowhere near that money at Chelsea,’ a source explained.

‘The signing-on fee reflects that it is a free transfer and if he sees out the duration it’s a great deal for him.’
That’s shocking , pretty disgraceful , £220 k pw is obscene in the present day, no wonder people are disillusioned with the premier league
 

sirstevefleming

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A weak, negative culture prevails the club - even under wenger.

If anyone needed reminding that football at the top level is morally corrupt - here ya go
 

Opalescent

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How are you defining debt here?

Kroenke owes ~600m from the takeover, Kroenke owns the stadium & Arsenal are still paying back the 200m loan on it (that was re-financed the other week) , Arsenal 'the club' are a subsidiary of his company so while they don't directly have any debt, they don't have any income either as the land,stadium,matchday,merch,commercial etc are all owned by other company's/subsidiarys of Kroenke & not by the actual club
He's got his fingers in every piece of the pie like fat mike to pay off the close to a billion He/Arsenal/ Arsenal Holdings plc are on the hook for
Loans and overdrafts... As a business they typically live within their means unlike others. Granted, that may change due to the pandemic.

They do carry bonds against the stadium build which are known entities running decades.

How that compares with Man Utd I don't know, it was a throw away comment as another poster thought I was talking about them rather than Arsenal.

The model of Arsenal Holdings Ltd seems to work and I think it is accepted that they're a well run "Club".
 
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SDF

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Are they streamlining their managerial structure or is it mainly about saving money?
The rumour doing the rounds on Twitter is that Edu looked into the Pepe transfer and didn't like what he found.

Supposedly an obscene amount of money paid to agents and people who 'helped with the transfer' compared to what Pepe and Lille received.
 

Glasgowsteve

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In all fairness this isn’t entirely Willians fault. If Arsenal are mad enough to offer him a silly deal then he’d be stupid not to take it. I think it was Seth Johnson that was offered double what he was prepared to accept - the story is he was going to ask for £20k and would accept £17.5k but the club offered him £35k. He knows this is his last big contract at the top level so why turn it down. It makes sense for him. He probably won’t have to relocate (bonus if he has a wife and kids) playing for a top team and the extras that brings. I can’t remember who said it but when you leave a club like Chelsea for a team like Brighton or Villa there is a marked difference in the quality of the facilities. I doubt Arsenal will be any worse off than what’s available at Chelsea. Moreover they have a newer stadium too.
 

Sebo23

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The rumour doing the rounds on Twitter is that Edu looked into the Pepe transfer and didn't like what he found.

Supposedly an obscene amount of money paid to agents and people who 'helped with the transfer' compared to what Pepe and Lille received.
Don't think it was Edu. Arsenal hired a new non executive director called Tim Lewis who has links with the Kronkes from before. Apparently he's been reviewing the transfer business & other business done over the past year or 2 as there's a good few questionable decisions made at the club at management level, including the increasing influence that Raul's friend Kia Joorabchian was having over Arsenal's transfer deals.

Arsenal will dress it as wanting to streamline the decision making process at management level. Edu and Arteta will now look after the football side, which is probably good news as it means Arteta will have a bit more control over squad building now. Unai Emery spoke in the past about how he wanted Zaha & Partey for instance and got overruled & ended up with Pepe & Torriera.
 
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