Bar72 Renewals Out

For the improvements that they are making to Bar72, the increase doesn't seem to be overly excessive. Dare I say if it wasn't for the current circumstances, most would feel that is reasonable?
 

cloodie

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I just think they're desperate for cash and when you are a business desperate for cash your more well healed customers are the ones to target. It'll be interesting to see what they do with standard season ticket prices
Not sure I'd say Bar72 ticket holders are particualry well healed. All the ones I know are just normal working folk. The well healed folk will be in the current hospitality suites.
 

cloodie

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For the improvements that they are making to Bar72, the increase doesn't seem to be overly excessive. Dare I say if it wasn't for the current circumstances, most would feel that is reasonable?
The improvements aren't happening till the following season and, as others mentioned, are things that should've been done anyway, i.e. new screens as the current ones are terrible
 

GeordieRanger

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I think that will be indicative of ST price increase too, not ITK but just my thoughts.
I don't see how they can increase season ticket prices at all when the season ticket holders didn't even get all the games they paid for this season. Whilst I doubt people will be demanding refunds and as a goodwill gesture the vast majority will be happy to let the club keep the cash for the games they won't get to see, as a goodwill gesture from the club towards the fans I don't think any price increase should be implemented next season.
 

The Railway Bear

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I don't see how they can increase season ticket prices at all when the season ticket holders didn't even get all the games they paid for this season. Whilst I doubt people will be demanding refunds and as a goodwill gesture the vast majority will be happy to let the club keep the cash for the games they won't get to see, as a goodwill gesture from the club towards the fans I don't think any price increase should be implemented next season.
The fact they have already increased in other areas would suggest otherwise (I am not saying I agree with it.) I will be pleased if there isn't a price increase elsewhere, but surprised.
 

Diego Maradona

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For the improvements that they are making to Bar72, the increase doesn't seem to be overly excessive. Dare I say if it wasn't for the current circumstances, most would feel that is reasonable?
I don’t really see many improvements in terms of facilities, admittedly that is based on an artists impression.
 

bar72bear

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Not sure I'd say Bar72 ticket holders are particualry well healed. All the ones I know are just normal working folk. The well healed folk will be in the current hospitality suites.
on the whole I’d agree, most are normal fans who have decent jobs and incomes. There are however a lot in their who are are absolutely loaded who have contacts all through the club but don’t want stuffy hospitality so that’s why they choose there to sit.
 

Valley Bluenose

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I don't see how they can increase season ticket prices at all when the season ticket holders didn't even get all the games they paid for this season. Whilst I doubt people will be demanding refunds and as a goodwill gesture the vast majority will be happy to let the club keep the cash for the games they won't get to see, as a goodwill gesture from the club towards the fans I don't think any price increase should be implemented next season.
The Club need to get the season ticket sales going pronto. We are in need of cash. As much as we can pull in. They cannot offer, for example, a discount based on losing games from this season because Rangers are actively lobbying to have those games played. Can't have it both ways.

I assume when those games are eventually confirmed as not happening the Club will put in place a claim process for the few who will want their money back.
 

GeordieRanger

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The Club need to get the season ticket sales going pronto. We are in need of cash. As much as we can pull in. They cannot offer, for example, a discount based on losing games from this season because Rangers are actively lobbying to have those games played. Can't have it both ways.

I assume when those games are eventually confirmed as not happening the Club will put in place a claim process for the few who will want their money back.
I don't think the club have any liability towards the fans for matches not played due to circumstances out of their control. I think a price freeze across the board for next season would have been fair enough by way of compensation and a goodwill gesture.
 

Valley Bluenose

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I don't think the club have any liability towards the fans for matches not played due to circumstances out of their control. I think a price freeze across the board for next season would have been fair enough by way of compensation and a goodwill gesture.
It seems like an annual debate when it comes to season tickets. Freeze prices, reward us for our loyalty. I'm sure it happens at every club in the land. None of them take any notice. Its a business. Its about getting money in the coffers. It goes to help our club operate, it goes towards buying our transfer targets and paying their wages.

This Summer will be hard and folk will have to make choices.
 

cloodie

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If it sells out, the Club will have been proven right
There is a balance to be struck though. A football club isn't a normal business where if you don't like something you take your business elsewhere. The idea that supporters who've been there for years, including some of the worst we've ever seen, are simply dismissed with a comment about the club being right if someone else comes along and takes a seat they're forced to vacate doesn't really sit well.

The club have handled this very poorly. No consultation beforehand and the very first notification of it is when they bring out the season ticket renewals. That's ridiculous and it's made worse by the fact that the main change, the refurb of the bar, has been delayed a season.
 

LarkfiedLoyalNS

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I am guessing if any one renews we will have first shout at away tickets also as it’s falling under hospitality now with the price band the same as corporate get the chance of away tickets before any other season ticket holder?

I really don’t want to give me seat up.

Going to ask a friend if he wants to go halfers and get can pick which games he wants to go to.

Will save up next year myself so I am ready for it.
 

Valley Bluenose

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There is a balance to be struck though. A football club isn't a normal business where if you don't like something you take your business elsewhere. The idea that supporters who've been there for years, including some of the worst we've ever seen, are simply dismissed with a comment about the club being right if someone else comes along and takes a seat they're forced to vacate doesn't really sit well.

The club have handled this very poorly. No consultation beforehand and the very first notification of it is when they bring out the season ticket renewals. That's ridiculous and it's made worse by the fact that the main change, the refurb of the bar, has been delayed a season.
You've a point on when the refurb happens. Albeit it was initially planned for this year and their Business Plan may have been based on the additional income - as limited as it is. Its a valid point you make though.

I'm not so sure on the consultation bit though. Ask anybody if they'd like to pay 25%-35% more for, basically, the same thing and they will, in the majority, say NO. Ask them if they'd pay more for 'improved facilities' and some will say YES and some will say NO. The bottom line, literally, is 'can we sell all these seats at the increased prices'. Remember, the additional funds are helping sustain our Club, its not as if they are going elsewhere. We all want our Club to be the best it can be. That takes cool, hard cash. As much of it as they can muster.
 

It Is Old But Beautiful

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If it sells out, the Club will have been proven right
That doesn’t mean it’s right but. People will pay more money to have the extras that Bar72 offers but it doesn’t make it right to increase the season ticket price by 35% considering the circumstances. It’s also not going to be complete until the 2021/22 season.
 

GeordieRanger

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That doesn’t mean it’s right but. People will pay more money to have the extras that Bar72 offers but it doesn’t make it right to increase the season ticket price by 35% considering the circumstances. It’s also not going to be complete until the 2021/22 season.
A lot of loyal Bears who use Bar72 will sadly be priced out now which is a shame.
 

LarkfiedLoyalNS

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Totally wrong approach IMO.

Bears will lose their seat because of this could’ve at least gave us a season to save up for it and create a waiting list for those who will be able to pay for the ones who can’t in a years time.

If I had the money I would pay it but I’ve not at this moment in time.
 

BobbyShearer

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I think Bar72 has shown there is a demand for a non-hospitality style “premium season ticket”

To the extent I think it would be silly of the club to not have a standardised SPL 19 game £1000 season ticket with access to similar facilities.

I think it would be a sensible and pragmatic decision if those deciding against renewing for “club 72” had their details taken and given first refusal if such a lounge is eventually proven feasible somewhere else in the ground.
 

bar72bear

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Does anybody know if you will be able to use seat sub with this season ticket ? I only get to around 10 games a season so used this a lot last year.
Also I’ve just thought that my renewal doesn’t mention the credit I should have from seat sub from last year. Wonder when that is taken off ?
 

rangeral

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Does anybody know if you will be able to use seat sub with this season ticket ? I only get to around 10 games a season so used this a lot last year.
Also I’ve just thought that my renewal doesn’t mention the credit I should have from seat sub from last year. Wonder when that is taken off ?
Yes it should but maybe for just League games like ordinary season tickets?

Also it only kicks in once the game has sold out

Cut off point for following season is end of February
 

bar72bear

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Yes it should but maybe for just League games like ordinary season tickets?

Also it only kicks in once the game has sold out

Cut off point for following season is end of February
thanks for the info. I’ll be severely annoyed if I have used seat sub for 5/6 games but got nothing back.
 

Robert Marshall

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There is a balance to be struck though. A football club isn't a normal business where if you don't like something you take your business elsewhere. The idea that supporters who've been there for years, including some of the worst we've ever seen, are simply dismissed with a comment about the club being right if someone else comes along and takes a seat they're forced to vacate doesn't really sit well.

The club have handled this very poorly. No consultation beforehand and the very first notification of it is when they bring out the season ticket renewals. That's ridiculous and it's made worse by the fact that the main change, the refurb of the bar, has been delayed a season.
I have never been consulted in 25years in the pub game by one Brewer, Soft drink manufacturer or Spirit company asking about my opinion on a price rise, not once.
The reality is the Club makes a decision about what is best for the Club.
We are without a doubt the most Loyal fans in football, but ultimately we are customers
 

rangeral

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thanks for the info. I’ll be severely annoyed if I have used seat sub for 5/6 games but got nothing back.
Probably won't be the 1st one that hasn't got anything back - maybe try and chase it up although given the current situation it be difficult

I have bought 2 via Seatsub this season I would hope those 2 get the benefit of it
 
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