No reason why they shouldn’t count. Hutton was probably one of the very few Scottish born players who did well but as someone mentioned, Fleck has time on his side. Just remembered that Alan McGregor deserves to be included.Gio , Arteta, Gattuso.... Jelavic and Hutton went to the prem but didn’t win anything so don’t know if that counts
I think Stevie G would have helped McKay develop into a cracking player.He's typical of so many young players these days. Bags of talent, but the heart of a mouse. If he had the Stevie G mentality he would be a top championship or lower EPL level player imo, but thinks turning up and going through the motions is enough.
Fleck took the long way round but is running riot just now with Sheffield .No reason why they shouldn’t count. Hutton was probably one of the very few Scottish born players who did well but as someone mentioned, Fleck has time on his side. Just remembered that Alan McGregor deserves to be included.
He was one of our only attacking outballs under Warburton we would have been a much poorer team without him then there is no doubt however we have moved on to far better players nowI actually think he did okay with us and gets unfair criticism ,he was nowhere near as bad imo as people make out
Thanks for THAT goal v them wee man .
He’s talented though, it’s his attitude and application that absolutely stink. To me Barrie McKay is the worst kind of footballer, a talented one who is a gutless little shite and wastes that talent that thousands of others would kill to have.One of the most overrated players ever. I think that as a support we were so starved of quality players or even half decent youth prospects, any player that made the first team and got reasonable game time was the next world beater. There was a similar furore around Lewis McLeod and even Andy Murdoch to a lesser extent. These guys are decent players that will turn out to be nothing more than journeyman that forge a decent living floating around the bottom of the championship/upper end of league 1. For everyone saying he has bags of talent, even with awful application real talent shines through to a degree. You don't sit in the Swansea reserves if you're a real player.
His mum and dad are from my town , he takes great pride in his Scottish heritageA bit of a derail but when I was reading up on some of the Swansea fans comments I came accross a thread about McKay and McBurnie apparently not doing the huddle. Turns out another fella, George Byers isn't doing it either.
Turns out Byers is an 'English born Scot'. I'll assume he's a Gers man. (edit - quick google search confirms he is staunch)
Definitely spineless but I’ve never been convinced he actually had ‘all the talent in the world.’ I think the shit show of the banter years starved us of quality to the point where we vastly over estimated his ability.At least he’s no longer a poor prisoner. The gutless wee turd. Called it at the time, all the talent in the world and no heart or hunger to maximise it.
i always remember his comments were regarding Powerpoint PedroHe’s talented though, it’s his attitude and application that absolutely stink. To me Barrie McKay is the worst kind of footballer, a talented one who is a gutless little shite and wastes that talent that thousands of others would kill to have.
I saw ball control, first touch and dribbling ability from him that few in Scotland have, he’s just wasting it though. Anyway, after his remarks on exiting Ibrox he can go and take a feck to himself!
Graeme Murty hooked him at half time at the piggery, he was seen as not being fit to go back out for the second half in that pitiful Rangers side. Says it all about the spineless knob, as does his current position as Swansea bench warmer.i always remember his comments were regarding Powerpoint Pedro
headline would suggest it was at Rangers (yep you guessed it, BBC) Rangers' treatment forced me to leave for Nottingham Forest
"There was a change of manager and his opinion was different," said McKay.
"I wasn't being treated the way any human being should be treated, but that's football and I had to move on."
"Not really at the time, with the way things went with the manager and the way I was being treated and stuff.
drastic yes, but aimed at the Pedro the fraud. perhaps i am being kind, but the Pedro era was a fecking shambles. i'd have kept McKay over Pena the alky
would have loved to have seen him play under Gerrard
Gutless and heart of a mouse are such toxic labels that are thrown around on the regular by our support, look at what was being said about Barisic this time last year vs now.Graeme Murty hooked him at half time at the piggery, he was seen as not being fit to go back out for the second half in that pitiful Rangers side. Says it all about the spineless knob, as does his current position as Swansea bench warmer.
Pedro might have been a shite manager here, but I doubt he didn’t take to McKay for no good reason, I’d assume it was because he was gutless, something that was very evident just from watching him in many games. Either way his comment about not being treated the way any human should was beyond pathetic. I wonder if he’s ready to look at himself now and ask why he’s a benchwarmer for a championship outfit. He’s hardly able to point the finger at Pedro or Murty or anyone and say “hah look at me now”.
Come January he'll be hanging about QPR's car park Peter Odemwingie style.Poor Barrie, being treated inhumanely again.
Here here mate.Gutless and heart of a mouse are such toxic labels that are thrown around on the regular by our support, look at what was being said about Barisic this time last year vs now.
McKay's best games for Rangers were the big ones, he certainly wasn't scared of Celtic.
Until we finally manage to sign another winger that's even close to Kent's level, I'd take McKay back in a heartbeat. He is unbelievably talented and could thrive under the right management
GVB, Arteta, Tugay, Gattuso, Charlie Adam
Could argue Steve Davis & john Fleck too.
You're right though, most don't.
I think Van Bronkhurst did!
Gio , Arteta, Gattuso.... Jelavic and Hutton went to the prem but didn’t win anything so don’t know if that counts
Gattuso & Van Bronckhorst to be fair
Gattuso did fairly well.
I dont think McKay is a shit bag, or has the heart of a mouse, I just think he genuinely doesn't enjoy playing football. It looks like a job to him and nothing else. Hard to imagine for someone like me who has the deft touch of a trampoline on each foot and would have loved to have played at any level, but there it is, he goes to work, does the bare minimum and gets paid handsomely for it.
That thread could of been lifted from here. Frighteningly similar.
It is interesting to wonder how he'd fair under Stevie if that wouldn't inspire him nothing will,look at Borna the difference in that guy,so who's to say the gaffer wouldn't get the best out of him. I thought he was off to QPR at one point.been interesting to have seen what he would have been like under Stevie G,maybe not physically strong enough as well as mentally tough,but maybe he could have changed him