Beale's worst decision?

The biggest mistake he made was taking the job in the first place. In fact, that'll end up being the biggest mistake of his entire career.

Beale should have targeted becoming Rangers manager in the next five to ten years. He should have built up a wealth of experience in the English Championship and - if lucky - the Premier League, so that when he got the job he had the skills, connections and personality to make it a real success.

Instead, he took the job far, far too early. He has none of the required characteristics that are needed to manage this football club. None. And because of that, he will never manage the club again. He will never get another chance at the biggest club he will ever manage. And it's his own fault.

Rather than showing he had the balls to manage the club, he should have shown he had the balls to turn us down.
 
Jeff Portnoy said:
Oh so you think lammers and dessers have the potential to do the same?

If these 2 had 25% of the ability and desire of Ricksen they would be doing well - mentioning them in same breath is way wide of the mark
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I've no idea. But the point he's making is that the form at the time of Ricksen lead to Advocaat's demise as Rangers manager.
 
Sh3230 said:
What would yous say was Beale's worst decision as manager? For me it wasn't a signing but letting Colak go. If you look at expected goals in the games we lost

Killie expected goals 1.36 scored 0
Celtic expected goals 1.22 scored 0
Aberdeen expected goals 2.59 scored 1

Even a team with semi decent strikers score 1 goal each in the first two games. Colak scores in at least two of those games imo and we are a few points behind Celtic at worst. Horrendous decision.
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His summer signings have finished him
 
Letting Thistile score in the SC because their centre half needed 35 touches to control a ball.

Right there he was done for me, an absolute loser mentality on the park and a wanting to be loved menatlity from football clubs who hate us with everthing they have off the park

His pathetic reasoning of not watching Tillman to be called a cheat was embarrassing.
 
ClockworkOrange said:
Of course it didn't. He's suggesting that that's one of the reasons.
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Well I would politely disagree with that massively and it's disrespectful considering he is no longer with us.

I doubt a new manager would be able to turn lessers of dammers (that's intentional by the way) around into decent players. Ie Alex McLeish with Ricksen etc

Konterman was better than these 2 as well.
 
Jeff Portnoy said:
Well I would politely disagree with that massively and it's disrespectful considering he is no longer with us.

I doubt a new manager would be able to turn lessers of dammers (that's intentional by the way) around into decent players. Ie Alex McLeish with Ricksen etc

Konterman was better than these 2 as well.
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The poster was making the point that sticking with the same players will eventually lead to his firing.

It remains to be seen if another new manager would do something with these players.
 
ClockworkOrange said:
The poster was making the point that sticking with the same players will eventually lead to his firing.

It remains to be seen if another new manager would do something with these players.
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Well comparing them to a player like ricksen was a bit of a boo boo.

As he was actually a Rangers captain - won leagues and Cups and was mustard.

I get he can't stick with lessers and Co but it's his problem as he bought them.

Comparing beale to advocaat is ridiculous as well.
 
Camby loyalist said:
What? Ricksen went on to captain us and win the league, how does that even make sense?
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He was pointing out that Ricksen was getting major stick early on which was used to beat the manager with. This is a fact for anyone who remembers that 6-2 disaster particularly. There is however no doubt that Ricksen later went on to prove his then critics wrong. The poster I'm sure recognises that.
 
Jeff Portnoy said:
Well comparing them to a player like ricksen was a bit of a boo boo.

As he was actually a Rangers captain - won leagues and Cups and was mustard.

I get he can't stick with lessers and Co but it's his problem as he bought them.

Comparing beale to advocaat is ridiculous as well.
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We're going around in circles, but I think it's fair to criticise a player for a spell in his career even if he might turn it around. I also don't think the comparison is with Beale and Advocaat as much with some of their decisions. Not much else to add.
 
Flip of the coin between signing Dessers and not signing someone to really challenge Tav for starters place. Probably Tav. You can't argue his stats, but c'mon, bar one excellent year, he's seen off one mgr after another as captain. When we lost Bassey and Aribo and Kent and Morelos gave up, he showed no leadership. Beale gives him too much respect.
 
ClockworkOrange said:
We're going around in circles, but I think it's fair to criticise a player for a spell in his career even if he might turn it around. I also don't think the comparison is with Beale and Advocaat as much with some of their decisions. Not much else to add.
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Aye advocaat winning a treble in his 1st season was known for his suspect decisions....

I agree we are going around in circles.

Beale lessers and dammers should never even be discussed or compared with ricksen or advocaat due to their records.

Thats my final say on it.

Enjoy what's left of your weekend
 
WilkinsBullet said:
He was pointing out that Ricksen was getting major stick early on which was used to beat the manager with. This is a fact for anyone who remembers that 6-2 disaster particularly. There is however no doubt that Ricksen later went on to prove his then critics wrong. The poster I'm sure recognises that.
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Well I certainly hope he does recognise that.

I'm confident that Beale will not be the manager that advocaat was and those 2 will never reach the highs ricksen did.
 
Jeff Portnoy said:
Aye advocaat winning a treble in his 1st season was known for his suspect decisions....

I agree we are going around in circles.

Beale lessers and dammers should never even be discussed or compared with ricksen or advocaat due to their records.

Thats my final say on it.

Enjoy what's left of your weekend
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He wasn't known for suspect decisions in 1998/1999 but he certainly was in 2000/2001, in the same that a player who became a scapegoat and took a bit of flak in 2000/2001 later became an integral part of the team by 2004/2005.

That's how football works.
 
ClockworkOrange said:
He wasn't known for suspect decisions in 1998/1999 but he certainly was in 2000/2001, in the same that a player who became a scapegoat and took a bit of flak in 2000/2001 later became an integral part of the team by 2004/2005.

That's how football works.
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Ah ....so that's how football works?

Thanks for clearing that one up for me.
 
I think his biggest mistake was changing Cantwell’s role in the team.

Re Dessers, I’ve seen hints of a player there, especially early on. One or two passes of real quality. But a severe lack of confidence
 
Not giving Morelos a new contract and replacing him with absolute dross.

And that’s me referring to a half fit and half arsed Morelos!
 
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Selling Colak and Sakala and replacing them with Dessers and lammers. I was gutted when Colak went and I knew this outcome was on the cards. Teams don’t sell there best players in one go unless there struggling financially or Michael Beale is their manager!
 
Sh3230 said:
What would yous say was Beale's worst decision as manager? For me it wasn't a signing but letting Colak go. If you look at expected goals in the games we lost

Killie expected goals 1.36 scored 0
Celtic expected goals 1.22 scored 0
Aberdeen expected goals 2.59 scored 1

Even a team with semi decent strikers score 1 goal each in the first two games. Colak scores in at least two of those games imo and we are a few points behind Celtic at worst. Horrendous decision.
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I certainly disagreed with this decision at the time. Why sell a player who is scoring for fun? There was no need. There were weaker positions that weren't strengthened, like a Kent replacement.
 
Whatever his entire plan for us was this summer in terms of style of play, tactics and transfers. All of that was his biggest mistake.
 
rangers_champions said:
His problem is getting rid of Kamara, Kent, Arfield, Morelos, Colak, Sakala and replacing them with Sima who at time looks like he hasnt seen a fitba before, Lammers who is good technically but has 2 goals in 2 seasons and Dessers who is making Kevin Kyle look great, someone who cant run, pass, header or shoot. Took goals, pace and unpredictability out our team and replaced it with garbage.
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Sima I actually don't mind so much he is starting get goals.

His first touch is honking though.
 
PortoyMortoy said:
Signings players for a specific system and then all but abandoning it after a few bad performances to go back to one that the current squad doesn't fit as well as it used to. Deserves the sack for that alone, wasted millions
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Aye, that grates on me.

Shows a lack of confidence in either his own ideas or in his ability to implement those ideas with the squad he had assembled.
 
He thought he was a tactical genius, and overthought everything. It just resulted in 11 players all looking very confused on the pitch.

The lack of quality he brought in didn't help.
 
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Not sticking to his ideals for me.

He bought players to play 4-3-1-2 High Press - but then doesn't play that formation in anything other than small spurts in games. Had he at least stuck to his guns we might have seen some sort of idealism and playing style.

Instead, he quickly reverted to 4-3-3 (ish) except with not having the actual players to play this for 90 mins every game.

Clueless.
 
Sauron said:
Not sticking to his ideals for me.

He bought players to play 4-3-1-2 High Press - but then doesn't play that formation in anything other than small spurts in games. Had he at least stuck to his guns we might have seen some sort of idealism and playing style.

Instead, he quickly reverted to 4-3-3 (ish) except with not having the actual players to play this for 90 mins every game.

Clueless.
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this absolutely 100%
would've perhaps given him more time had he stuck to his principles and tried it
instead his plan B was to do someones plan A without the tools to achieve it
 
Not playing Cantwell & Raskin in the LC final.

Bringing Sands on in his first game v Them at 2-1 up.

Winning both of those could have created more momentum but he ended up immediately on the back foot.
 
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