Bisgrove leading the managerial search

[rossgers]

The new manager will pull a great pint.

 

[Hipster Dashie]

Who did people think would be choosing?

It’s going to be Bisgrove who gets blamed if it goes wrong so obviously he’s going to be the one leading the search.

This whole ‘we need football people’ is overrated as well.

We had a DoF who was our ‘football person’ and he chose the last 2 managers who failed. Sir Alex recommended Moyes, Smith recommended Ally, Mendes recommended Pedro - there are probably other examples.

DoF did not choose last two managers. Board and Chief exec did. DoF should be part of the process, but the guys at the top make these big decisions and can't hid behind the DoF.

Bennet and Bisgr9ve were part of the team that hired Beale. We need to remember that and the poor strategy and thinking that went behind it. They were seduced by an articulate man that could talk the talk but couldn't walk the walk.

His record at QPR wasn't great that should have been a red flag. It wasn't. So why are so many people confident they will make right choice this year.

I will get behind whoever they choose, as fans should. But will be with reservations if it looks like another poor choice.

 

[HillsBill]

All that tells us he’s a shit hot at growing the commercial side.

Agreed. But equally it doesn’t tell us he’s not going to be a shit hot CEO. 5 months for goodness sake.

 

[55&Beautiful]

bennet hired Bisgrove

Bisgrove also doesnt deal with player recruitment, and while leading the manager search, wont be doing it on his own either

He did .. but as ive said it should be a sporting director of very good standing and bennett..not bisgrove... and bisgrove along with Beale did deal with player recruitment.. an absolute shambles as well .. get bisgrove to feck away from all that

 

[55&Beautiful]

DoF did not choose last two managers. Board and Chief exec did. DoF should be part of the process, but the guys at the top make these big decisions and can't hid behind the DoF.

Bennet and Bisgr9ve were part of the team that hired Beale. We need to remember that and the poor strategy and thinking that went behind it. They were seduced by an articulate man that could talk the talk but couldn't walk the walk.

His record at QPR wasn't great that should have been a red flag. It wasn't. So why are so many people confident they will make right choice this year.

I will get behind whoever they choose, as fans should. But will be with reservations if it looks like another poor choice.

Bennett should be right now talking t9 a sporting director with a very good standing and getting him in the door .. then along with him appointing a new manager... not bisgrove

 

[macaloon9]

CEO working on appointing new manager.

This place 'disgrace' 'absolutely depressing'

I honestly don't know what some posters in here expect.

Who did ye think would be working on the appointment lol

Right? Some clubs have a DoF who will be heavily involved but plenty don't. Its the CEO and board that makes the call so we are hardly doing something mental.

Whether Bisgrove/the current board are likely to make the right choice is another question.

 

[HillsBill]

who's in charge then. Chairman and CEO or manager?

Park and Wilson put out the press release on Beale’s appointment. It would be odd indeed for them to welcome publicly someone else’s appointee.

 

[GBY74]

I'm obviously in the minority on here but I think Lampard would be a good appointment and would do very well with us.

 

[Detective Vic Mackey]

CEO working on appointing new manager.

This place 'disgrace' 'absolutely depressing'

I honestly don't know what some posters in here expect.

Who did ye think would be working on the appointment lol

I don’t think anyone is surprised at Bisgrove leading it.

I think people are alarmed we are now heavily linked with Frank Lampard and if we’re being honest, that just feels like exactly the sort of appointment Bisgrove would want to make.

You can feel it in your balls that it’ll be Lampard.

 

[HillsBill]

DoF did not choose last two managers. Board and Chief exec did. DoF should be part of the process, but the guys at the top make these big decisions and can't hid behind the DoF.

Bennet and Bisgr9ve were part of the team that hired Beale. We need to remember that and the poor strategy and thinking that went behind it. They were seduced by an articulate man that could talk the talk but couldn't walk the walk.

His record at QPR wasn't great that should have been a red flag. It wasn't. So why are so many people confident they will make right choice this year.

I will get behind whoever they choose, as fans should. But will be with reservations if it looks like another poor choice.

Park and Wilson signed the press release regarding Beale’s appointment. Why would they do that if someone else made the appointment?

 

[Gazza no8]

They have football people making those decision. Well run ones anyway

Who across the road would you consider to be a “football” person?

 

[JCB64]

I'm obviously in the minority on here but I think Lampard would be a good appointment and would do very well with us.

Based on?

 

[Hipster Dashie]

Park and Wilson signed the press release regarding Beale’s appointment. Why would they do that if someone else made the appointment?

That without doubt is a board decision. May well be them that announces it, but that would be a decision made in a board meeting. They may well have recommended Gio and Beale not arguing that.

If that isn't the case we have deeper governance problem than we all realise.

 

[FollowNearAndFar]

Imagine rocking up to one of the biggest jobs in the country with a CV that consists of this:

6th place with derby
Sacked from Chelsea
Sacked from Everton
Chelsea on a interim basis, 1 win from 11


Absolutely baffling if he gets the gig.

 

[Mickey Donovan]

We've got our best man on the job.

 

[yarrumdavid01]

I hope to funk he's not taken in by a Powerpoint presentation.

 

[ThreestripeS]

Motherwell away "Robertson out" protest coming soon for Bisgrove.

Only absalute freaks would even think about that?

 

[GBY74]

Based on?

Managerial experience
Marketing value
Attracting players
Experience of pressure at big club
Leadership
Winning mentality

 

[Boysinblue]

I'm obviously in the minority on here but I think Lampard would be a good appointment and would do very well with us.

Nice to see you joining the forum for discussion Frank!

 

[Mreblue]

Find this surprising. Would have thought there would have been a panel or committee of "experts"

That way he can distance himself if they sign someone like Frank Lampard and it all goes wrong.

 

[ThreestripeS]

Cant folk not just wait and see how he does?

They can't help thereselves with jumping in foot first.
Some of the mob are truly an embarrassment

 

[Mreblue]

I'm obviously in the minority on here but I think Lampard would be a good appointment and would do very well with us.

I would say you are definitely in the minority

 

[insanicdrunk]

Imagine rocking up to one of the biggest jobs in the country with a CV that consists of this:

6th place with derby
Sacked from Chelsea
Sacked from Everton
Chelsea on a interim basis, 1 win from 11


Absolutely baffling if he gets the gig.

You can’t say that, there’s excuses for why he failed.

 

[Derek76]

I honestly wonder who some on here get through each day, negative about everything and thinking the worse.

Always glass half empty.

 

[devilman]

What the %^*& does he know about football managers? I appreciate he should be expected to be part of the process but if we have not reached out to someone with massive footballing knowledge this is going to be a disaster.

I suppose we should consider that there may be other footballing people involved but with this board - it's fair to assume not.

 

[Baxterno6]

Nothing more than thoughtful speculation.
Lampard is a Glamourous name in football and there is no doubt that Bisgrove likes the limelight.

Hear we go beale away FF need a new scapegoat it seems it going to be Bisgrove.

 

[devilman]

I honestly wonder who some on here get through each day, negative about everything and thinking the worse.

Always glass half empty.

There tends to be a reason for that.

 

[ThreestripeS]

I presume there are head hunters that work in this space that he will be working with? Seeing as we don’t have a DOF

Stop talking sense and leave the mob to the pile on.
They actually think Bisgrove is doing this off his own back reading fotba forums or poet journos

 

[Big D]

It's hardly a surprise though. He's the CEO. He'll be doing the day-day search but I've got no doubt Bennett will be joining him for the interviews.

Exactly. 'Leading the search' doesn't mean sole responsibility and is what you'd expect from a CEO given the absence of a DoF. Assume he'll be taking soundings from those within the game and obviously other directors will be involved.

 

[FollowNearAndFar]

You can’t say that, there’s excuses for why he failed.

Not to mention his Derby squad consisted of Harry Wilson, Mason Mount & Tomori who's now starting for AC Milan.

It really was some feat finishing 6th. Pat on the back for lampard.

 

[ThreestripeS]

Hear we go beale away FF need a new scapegoat it seems it going to be Bisgrove.

It's mindnumbing
How some of these people get through day I'll never know.

 

[Cardiffloyal]

I’m absolutely certain Bisgrove will appoint Lampard.

I’m convinced of it

When I read the OP that's exactly what I thought straight away

 

[Tom Joad]

Why is a guy who knows nothing about football leading the search for a football manager hahahaha

Checking availability wages contracts etc.
I would think ability etc in a football sense will be based on track record and probably a few phone calls made to football people he knows through his time with us or UEFA. Both he and Bennet know how important it is to get this right. It’s what I’d do if I was him. In fact surely it’s what every CEO would do. Very few if any are football people same with majority of clubs. This is where a director of football might be useful but no guarantee.
History and track record probably best guide.

 

[ThreestripeS]

Of course not,it’s bound to be a disaster,FF has spoken

Imagine the reaction with some on here if we were linked to Arteta if he was still at city?

We need someone with more experience and no ex players bla bla

 

[GrumpyOldBear]

He's the CEO its his Job but if he fucks it up he loses his Job this time

Im sure theres more involved behind the scenes

This Manager has to be the right fit take your time jamesy boy you necks on the line

 

[Tom Joad]

I don’t think anyone is surprised at Bisgrove leading it.

I think people are alarmed we are now heavily linked with Frank Lampard and if we’re being honest, that just feels like exactly the sort of appointment Bisgrove would want to make.

You can feel it in your balls that it’ll be Lampard.

Why would Bisgrove favour Lampard ? Genuine question.

 

[TJ72]

Won’t travel to Cyprus.

Lowe not on the list.

(Heart & Hand).

Heaven help us with Bisgrove leading the search.

At least we know though that it is likely to be a fairly weak character that won’t rock the boat with James as he couldn’t handle that.

 

[wsb&warmy]

I'm obviously in the minority on here but I think Lampard would be a good appointment and would do very well with us.

Aye - he'd nail 2nd spot in the league for us easy.

 

[HillsBill]

That without doubt is a board decision. May well be them that announces it, but that would be a decision made in a board meeting. They may well have recommended Gio and Beale not arguing that.

If that isn't the case we have deeper governance problem than we all realise.

I was responding to your comment that Bisgrove was part of the team who appointed Beale? Why would he be? He was only Commercial Director at the time.

I’m struggling to understand why Bennett and Bisgrove are being blamed by so many people when Park was the Chairman of the main board and Robertson was Managing Director of the football company. And Ross Wilson was DoF.

 

[Kentbear]

Clement has an impressive pedigree, i am leaning towards him.

 

[Maida Vale Bear]

It's Bisgrove's job to lead it as CEO.

I am sure he'll be taking the necessary advice from appropriate sources (he may be many things but I don't think a fool is one of them).

Don’t say that, don’t burst the FF bubble. It’s obvious, he shows the candidate a baw and asks, “what’s that?” Candidate might say “baw”. If he does, Bisgrove immediately awards him a 5 year deal.

 

[Detective Vic Mackey]

Why would Bisgrove favour Lampard ? Genuine question.

I think he’ll see Lampard as a big name that will boost the clubs profile and give similar commercial opportunities that Gerrard brought.

I think he’ll believe the support would respond to the profile of Lampard.

I think he’ll value Lampard’s EPL experience way more than he should.

I think he’ll think that Gerrard was a similar appointment and will think that worked.

I think the fact Lampard is available without compensation and (according to reports) Is keen on the job will be a big plus point.

 

[bluetonic]

Lampard could ruin us, but I bet he can impress on Bisgrove, please no.

If Beale can anyone could tbh.

 

[WillowBear]

I'm obviously in the minority on here but I think Lampard would be a good appointment and would do very well with us.

Out of interest why do you think you are in the minority ?

 

[Maida Vale Bear]

I was responding to your comment that Bisgrove was part of the team who appointed Beale? Why would he be? He was only Commercial Director at the time.

I’m struggling to understand why Bennett and Bisgrove are being blamed by so many people when Park was the Chairman of the main board and Robertson was Managing Director of the football company. And Ross Wilson was DoF.

And if people can really stretch their memories they’ll recall that when Bennett and Bisgrove were appointed and there appeared to be a bit of a clear out, the question asked was; is Beale their man. It would now seem to make sense as to why Beale was only able to net spend over the summer.

 

[Maida Vale Bear]

If Beale can anyone could tbh.

How did he impress him?

 

[valencia05]

Retail that wags the dog​

Bisgrove has shown he can bring in sponsors - can he find a manager though?

 

[The Reaper]

There should be someone who is fundamentally a football man involved in the selection and interview process and not left to suits.

 

[Hipster Dashie]

I was responding to your comment that Bisgrove was part of the team who appointed Beale? Why would he be? He was only Commercial Director at the time.

I’m struggling to understand why Bennett and Bisgrove are being blamed by so many people when Park was the Chairman of the main board and Robertson was Managing Director of the football company. And Ross Wilson was DoF.

The board incudes all the directors in a normal company. So he was part of that decision. Being a director is a serious responsibility to all shareholders. That is why key decisions are made by the board, including all the directors.

 

[WearsideGallantFew]

when are we going to start acting like every other fucking club in Europe and appoint a proper director of football and a proper head of recruitment?

We'll be back to square one in 12-18 months if Bisgrove is leading the search.