Bobby Moore

Buzz07 said:

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Harry Redknapp on... Bobby Moore: Ex-skipper was betrayed by Hammers
Former West Ham midfielder Harry Redknapp hits out at the treatment World Cup winning captain Bobby Moore received from his ex-club when he was kicked out of Upton Park for not having a ticket.
www.dailymail.co.uk


As reported on FF from time to time, something similar allegedly happened to Jock Wallace at Ibrox in 1988 when he had returned to see Rangers play Hearts. After the game was over he was was waiting outside the Blue Room to speak with David Holmes when a Commissionaire approached him and told him that he had been instructed to escort him out of Ibrox. It seemed to be instructions from Alastair Hood, the Operations Executive. Even more embarrassing was Jock Wallace's wife was in the Players Lounge and he had to go and get her before being forced to leave.

Utterly disgraceful way to treat one of our greatest managers and a true club legend.


I am sure that I read that the same thing happened to Willie mathieson once when he turned up to Ibrox for a game
 
He was a truly wonderful player but not as good as the English media made him out to be. Not as good as Beckenbaur in my humble opinion nor Bobby Charlton.
It's not about the English media, it's about recognising a truly great defender.as for comparing him with Charlton they were completely different players. Comparison with beckenbaur though is a hard one as to who is better. Beckenbaur achieved more in the game but Moore was at the very least his equal
 
He was supposed to have swiped a necklace from a jewellers display as England done a pre tournament tour of Columbia prior to Mexico ‘70.
It held up his joining the team for Mexico and turned into a legal nightmare.

I read that the thief was actually a younger squad member and Bobby knew this but protected him being team captain.
Obviously a long time ago and we’ll never know for sure.

As a footballer Moore was quite slow but his reading the game was superb.
His display against Pele in Mexico ‘70 was a masterclass in defending.
I remember watching it on TV as a kid and my dad cheering every time Moore won the ball in defence . “ There he is again!!”

Never heard that story about the younger player pinching the necklace. Always thought the story was a stitch up to unsettle the team before the competition.
 
I didn't know West Ham treated him so badly. He along with Trevor Brooking and Geoff Hurst are probably their most high profile players even to this day. I had the privelage of seeing Bobby Moore play on numerous occasions, he was an exceptional player, and a first pick in any all time world eleven.
 
A genuine world class player- although as a youngster I had trouble admitting it
I mean he lifted the World cup for England & I was 12 at the time - for me at that age in that time period- there were no positives

So appreciating just how good he was came later for me & looking back now he truly was a high class act

I was 14 at the time and share these same sentiments. But what a class player who I appreciated as I got older.
 
The good thing about this is that it's all about opinions and both were fantastic players. I do remember beckenbauer being given a torrid time at Ibrox from Willie Johnston in the cup winners' cup semi-final in 1972. He didn't look like the coolest player in the planet on that night
Absolutely. I’m only giving my opinion. Bobby Moore was a wonderful footballer.
 
It might be nonsense - but I once heard my old uncle - who is sadly no longer with us - say that once they gave one knighthood to Alf Ramsey - they'd need to wait till the next honours list to award the next one
Unwritten rule being one football related honour per list -

Trouble was with changes in government BM never got his chance again

The 1970 World Cup may have been the best time to do it but maybe the nicked gold bracelet story lingered

If I'm not mistaken Brooking's knighthood came much later ?
 
He spent his last few months in Edinburgh and died here.
I thought he died at home in London mate, but will stand corrected if wrong.
He had treatment for cancer in the 1960s before he won the World Cup. He kept it so quiet, even his closest friends never knew until years later.
 
Buzz07 said:

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Harry Redknapp on... Bobby Moore: Ex-skipper was betrayed by Hammers
Former West Ham midfielder Harry Redknapp hits out at the treatment World Cup winning captain Bobby Moore received from his ex-club when he was kicked out of Upton Park for not having a ticket.
www.dailymail.co.uk


As reported on FF from time to time, something similar allegedly happened to Jock Wallace at Ibrox in 1988 when he had returned to see Rangers play Hearts. After the game was over he was was waiting outside the Blue Room to speak with David Holmes when a Commissionaire approached him and told him that he had been instructed to escort him out of Ibrox. It seemed to be instructions from Alastair Hood, the Operations Executive. Even more embarrassing was Jock Wallace's wife was in the Players Lounge and he had to go and get her before being forced to leave.

Utterly disgraceful way to treat one of our greatest managers and a true club legend.


 
It's quite possible that the necklace incident cost him his knighthood because although nobody believes he did it, he was never officially cleared
 
When he could afford it my old man would go and watch West Ham of this era when he was based With the RAF down south in the early 60s
 
So ,after posting,my conscience got the better of me and I’ve seen some online info that he died “at home”

As a previous poster said he was definitely getting treatment in Edinburgh, in the Western General to be exact

whether “home” was Edinburgh or elsewhere I have to admit I’m not 100% sure,my memory may be playing tricks on me
 
So ,after posting,my conscience got the better of me and I’ve seen some online info that he died “at home”

As a previous poster said he was definitely getting treatment in Edinburgh, in the Western General to be exact

whether “home” was Edinburgh or elsewhere I have to admit I’m not 100% sure,my memory may be playing tricks on me
I know that he received treatment in Edinburgh as his wife made sure some of the money raised by his charity was donated there.
 
It’s incredible to watch him in the WC in 66 and look how sublime he was then think of the shit players in the years ahead to play for England in his position.

100% LEGEND
There used to be a saying about Cup-winning teams having better class than League-winning teams . He won three cups in consecutive years, probably at his pure peak mid-60s.
Only certain types of teams used to win the Cup-Winners and UEFA cups they were a class apart
 
It’s in Edinburgh Buzz,at Crewe Toll
Mate I've just dug out the book, Bobby Moore, The man in full by Matt Dickinson.
According to the book he spent his last few days at home in London.
As you can no doubt tell, I was a massive fan.
 
In his heyday, only Beckenbauer was a better defender. He’s the sort of player from the past who counters the idea than players today are automatically better. I reckon Moore at his peak would walk into any side in Europe today
 
I have just finished watching a documentary, what a reminder of what a great player Bobby Moore's was. Two particular instances stand out, firstly with 1 minute to go in extra time in the 1966 world cup final with England 3-2 up, ball gets crossed into England box, Jack Charlton is screaming for Bobby Moore to send it into the roof of the stand but instead he brings it down with this chest plays a one two out of the box and sends the ball through for Geoff Hurst to wrap it up. Pure class. The other is in the 1970 world cup when they lose 1-0 to Brazil, after the game Pele sprints straight towards Bobby Moore to swap jerseys with him. Says it all

I thought that England drew 0-0 with Brazil in 1970. The result has sort of been forgotten about with the focus on ‘that tackle by Moore’ and the save by Gordon Banks.
 
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Strange how things work out in life,I’m Bobby Moore lived in Coventry in 66.Tough for a wee Glesga guy who bet against England every game,cost me a fortune.Played football in Derby when I moved there and guess what my strip number was always 6,just one of those quirks of fate.
Were you good at shoplifting ha ha
 
There used to be a saying about Cup-winning teams having better class than League-winning teams . He won three cups in consecutive years, probably at his pure peak mid-60s.
Only certain types of teams used to win the Cup-Winners and UEFA cups they were a class apart
Read my two posts mate lol
 
Mate I've just dug out the book, Bobby Moore, The man in full by Matt Dickinson.
According to the book he spent his last few days at home in London.
As you can no doubt tell, I was a massive fan.

Glad it’s resolved mate,apologies if I muddied the waters

I worked at the Western in the early nineties and knew he was in and out for treatment.I was too young to see him playing but remember my old man talking highly of him and recollect wondering what I would say if I bumped into him
 
Glad it’s resolved mate,apologies if I muddied the waters

I worked at the Western in the early nineties and knew he was in and out for treatment.I was too young to see him playing but remember my old man talking highly of him and recollect wondering what I would say if I bumped into him
Not a problem mate.
It's hard to believe it was all that time ago. I remember going to see West ham not long after and seeing all the floral tributes.
He was the first of the 66 squad to pass away. Even the manager and coach outlived him.
 
Not a problem mate.
It's hard to believe it was all that time ago. I remember going to see West ham not long after and seeing all the floral tributes.
He was the first of the 66 squad to pass away. Even the manager and coach outlived him.

51 years old ,absolutely tragic
 
Good to see a great player getting appreciated for what he was, ahead of his time how he played the position of centre half.
 
If you had to choose Moore or Beckenbauer for the sweeper role, which one do you pick?
Beckenbaur done it in Germany and at that time Euro football allowed you to come out with the ball made it easier to make his passes. Rangers game at Ibrox evertime he got the ball was shut done not allowed to do that. One of the reasons we beat them that night. Often wondered why teams didn’t do it more often. Bobby done it in the toughest league, at that time it was a fearsome game in English football. Players running at you think of some great players as well. Awe well all about opinn.
 
Far too young to remember him playing but I read Harry Redknapps' book and he said Moore was treated terribly after he retired.

Never heard a bad word said about the guy.
 
Met him in old Wembley,i had a Rangers polo shirt on and he said him and John Greig were friends,nice man taken far too soon.
In Greig’s first biography, A Captain’s Part, he has a chapter where he gives his opinion on all the members of England’s 1966 team. He is very complimentary about Moore, Wilson, Hurst and Ball. Not so much about George Cohen, Martin Peters and Gordon Banks.
 
I must have got it mixed up, he was treated for his cancer at the Western General in Edinburgh for a while but obviously went home after his stay
He had cancer on three different occasions.1962,91 and 93.I was unaware he was treated up here.Any clip if you watch him with the ball at his feet he I straight backed and head up looking for a pass.It sounds mad but you don’t see many defenders comfortable with a ball at his feet positioning himself like that.
 
He was a truly wonderful player but not as good as the English media made him out to be. Not as good as Beckenbaur in my humble opinion nor Bobby Charlton.
You can’t compare Charlton and Moore, there is no comparison to be made. Moore restricted The late great Norman Hunter to 28 caps, make no mistake Hunter was world class, it’s just that Moore was better.
 
In his heyday, only Beckenbauer was a better defender. He’s the sort of player from the past who counters the idea than players today are automatically better. I reckon Moore at his peak would walk into any side in Europe today
If you are one place behind Beckenbauer you ain’t doing too bad.
 
Far too young to remember him playing but I read Harry Redknapps' book and he said Moore was treated terribly after he retired.

Never heard a bad word said about the guy.

Reading through this thread there are a few barbed comments about a man who is dead and gone. Shameful
 
The sweeper role was popular in that era. Players like Moore and beckenbauer would be the last man and build play from the back. We had Dave Smith in that role and Celtic had a boy called George Connolly, there was many an argument about which of those two was better. To be fair it was a good position to play, I think that the modern role of the keeper has probably contrbuted to making the sweeper redundant
 
The sweeper role was popular in that era. Players like Moore and beckenbauer would be the last man and build play from the back. We had Dave Smith in that role and Celtic had a boy called George Connolly, there was many an argument about which of those two was better. To be fair it was a good position to play, I think that the modern role of the keeper has probably contrbuted to making the sweeper redundant
That plus the change to the offside rule. When it was changed a number of years back there was a lot of criticism which you seldom hear now. I'm sure most of us can recall the ''cavalry charge'' out with every defender's hand aloft claiming offside.
 
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