Brighton's disallowed goal what a farce
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Blaze Of Glory
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Seems like a case of the ref thinking he's made an error by blowing the first time when I'm fact it's not an error, it's just potentially against the spirit of the game, then trying to rectify this supposed error by blowing again which turns out to be the first error. He's monumentally f£ck£d up here. What chance do the players have to "play to the whistle" when the ref doesn't?
How can anyone tell if it's on the floor before the official has checked to see if the consistency is beyond wallpaper paste, meeting EU loop-the-loop regulation ISO standards?
If it's not in the rule-book they'd have to phone Grogger Stevens.
The players claiming a goal after scoring a free kick after the referee had blown his whistle are a disgrace? What?
Easy to say move on from the outside looking in but they’re fighting for survival.
Whilst technically the same I’m sure you can see how that would be seen differently to someone attempting to attack a rebound off the post or bar
I’ve not seen MOTD but the guys on Soccer Saturday called it straight away as a double touch.
Chester Loyal
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instructor
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The mistake was that the ref should have checked the players positions before initially blowing his whistle. the end result was correct but he made himself look silly. The defence should be allowed to set their defence in these situations imo.
Not for me mate, it's clear as day the ref realised he'd made a mistake. If relegation comes down to 1 dodgy decision then i think they're looking for answers in the wrong place.
If they get relegated they deserve it but you’re expecting players in that position to not get emotional about a shocking decision.
Don’t pretend you wouldn’t be raging if the same thing happened to us at a crucial moment.
pepsimax73
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The main argument is Dunk claims he asked the ref if he could take a quick free kick and the ref tells him he can, then the ref changes his mind after the ball is heading across the line. The fact that Dunk has scored from a freekick like this before should have given the ref a heads up into what he was thinking
Not the same circumstance but i was proud of Alfie the other night
I also watched a clip from the 90s recently, tims v hivs, ref mistake left hivs with nae keeper lol, tims scored and ref disallowed, their fans were booing at not being given the goal. No way i would react in the same manner.
GovanFront4
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I'd love it if they put it down to a failed experiment and canned it but it's never ever going away. Once that box is opened you were neve getting the lid back on it.
FWIW I do think there is a place for some sort of VAR in football, but the way it's been implemented in England has been a disaster. It was as if they got the technology then changed the rules to suit that, rather than using the tech to streamline the game.
tazzabear
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Yip.
Somebody else can organise the wall.
Actually, John Greig implemented this when Rangers manager for this very reason.
The Barrel
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Same thing happened in the rugby yesterday. Ref told England captain to have a word with his team about repeated penalties. As he was doing so ref blew whistle....Wales hit long pass to unmarked winger he scored a try. Absolute farce. Actual time given to England squad was 3.1 seconds?!?
Roscoblue
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I think the whole thing could have been sorted immediately by the referee putting his hands up, saying I made a cûnt of that and restart the game with the free kick.
The ‘applied the laws of the game conversation is redundant, if he done that the game would have restarted at the point where the ball was at the second whistle (or on the 6 yard line in this instance).
As far as Dunk asking to go quick, his chance to do that goes as soon as the referee starts pacing out the required distance.
The ‘applied the laws of the game conversation is redundant, if he done that the game would have restarted at the point where the ball was at the second whistle (or on the 6 yard line in this instance).
As far as Dunk asking to go quick, his chance to do that goes as soon as the referee starts pacing out the required distance.
instructor
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Agreed, a similar error but Wales benefitted here. I think the knock on controversy try, the ref got that one technically correct . I found it a bit pathetic that the English pundits were basically blaming the ref for their defeat. They were well beaten in the end.
We'll need to agree to disagree. I don't know of the greig situation.
Is Prosinecki still alive? Must be about 55 so chances are 40/60.
He must spend an hour each morning coughing up something that's like a mix of Guinness and ridiculous amounts of cornflour. Year's worth capable of laying Serbia's first motorway.
He'll know. Unless he's dead. Which wouldn't surprise me.
das
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Should and does are two different matters, penalties should result in goals but twice they didn't yesterday
And it seems very rare that teams score prom free kicks in the box as the wall is usually so close and there is very little time for the second player to get a shot away.
Chester Loyal
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Should and does are two different matters, penalties should result in goals but twice they didn't yesterday
And it seems very rare that teams score prom free kicks in the box as the wall is usually so close and there is very little time for the second player to get a shot away.
Would it be a free kick? I don't think it would.
The play would either restart with Brighton possession where the ball was when the ref blew his whistle or the last point a Brighton player touched the ball which would mean a re-take of the free kick?
I'm honestly lost now. They should've just given the goal and got on with it.
barneybear
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That should have been the refs 'get out of jail' call after looking at the VAR, but VAR did not give him that option
barneybear
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There is no such thing as taking the kick too soon.Ref does blow the whistle twice. What a clusterf*ck though. Disallows the goal, gives the goal, disallows the goal. Its his cock-up because he blew the whistle indicating they could take the kick too soon. Then immediately realised what he'd done when Dunk hit it and blew again.
He's clearly destined for a future in the SPFL, he's that good.
The defensive wall was where it is going to be and when he blew his whistle....... game starts! He does not have to wait until the gk is ready
Until then he has done nothing wrong but he thinks he has, so he blows again, that is where it goes wrong. If he hadn't blown again....it is a goal.
He had a get out of jail card by going to VAR and could (should?) have given offside against the TWO players beyond the wall, but I don't think VAR allowed him that option.
Footie is great! There is always a talking point!
JerseyLoyalist
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That’s convenient.
Not necessarily.
Could easily be someone like that Kevin O'Donnell. Some of his decisions suggested incompetence at best, and honest mistakes of a dishonest nature at worst. He went on to boast about his contribution to the smellies Centenary Double in a Scots Catholic newspaper. He also suggested he was driven out of the game for sectarian reasons.
Seriously.
Thankfully this illegal matter was completely ignored, with the token hun writer knowing he'd lose his job and great seat at Ibrox if he didn't keep it shut.
That's the danger of yesterday, players have got to be alert at all times that includes goalkeepers especially.
The sheep nearly done it at shittodrie last game against us when they took a quick free kick which greegs saved from cratur face hayes.
Mason and anthony taylor getn paid big money down there and every time they officiate they have problems.
They need to be binned those two.
And that's only down south.
So was Paul Mason - and he scored the winner against us in a cup final.
What else do you expect from a mob that catholics can join?
Arkansasgerstill
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Ok, clever clogs gs, why did he then award the goal if he’d realized that, and then go do a VAR check. You must be Lee Mason Himself to try and excuse that. He has now entered the Les Mottram hall of fame!
Bubba Zanetti
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The goal should of stood, ref made a complete arse of it blowing early with the keeper on the post. I'd expect a ref to first signal to the keeper that they are about to blow the whistle in direct free kick situations
RoyalBlue1
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VAR is a fvckin shambles.
Mason Boyne
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Ahhh, the old days, when it was interfering with play or seeking to gain an advantage.
If your not doing either, then you shouldn’t be playing any sport.
barneybear
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We are giving our age away here mate!
GovanFront4
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Honestly baffling how it's even a discussion.
The morals of not letting the opposition set their defence is out the window as the ref blew the whistle to start the game. Then he shat it, pure and simple.
The morals of not letting the opposition set their defence is out the window as the ref blew the whistle to start the game. Then he shat it, pure and simple.
