MrBearightside
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What about all the households who would be asked to pay this extra £3-4 for this european football who don't want it?No thanks, just add £3-4 to prime.
That's not fair.
What about all the households who would be asked to pay this extra £3-4 for this european football who don't want it?No thanks, just add £3-4 to prime.
So BT/Amazon pay €1.7bn for the CL rights for the 2024-27 period, yet Canal+ only had to pay €480m for the exclusive rights to show the matches in France for the same timeframe.BBC to show highlights and Amazon to broadcast Champions League from 2024
The BBC will show highlights of the Champions League for the first time from 2024, with Amazon also buying rights to broadcast some matches, The Athletic understands. The package acquired by the BBC means they will show highlights from all Champions League action on Wednesday nights. Amazon...theathletic.com
Amazon has bought the rights to broadcast some Champions League games in the United Kingdom from 2024, The Athletic understands.
The tech giant will be able to show a number of games from UEFA club competitions — including the Champions League, Europa League and Europa Conference League — during the 2024-27 cycle.
BT Sport will retain the majority of the rights and will be able to show more games than previously, as the number of matches to be played in those competitions will increase when the formats change.
It is understood that the overall value of the rights has increased by approximately 20 per cent, with most of the new money coming from Amazon. The total package is now worth €1.7 billion over three years.
BT has owned the rights in the UK since 2015, when it spent big to take them from ITV and Sky.
Amazon shows 20 Premier League games a season in the UK on Prime Video and also broadcasts tennis and some rugby union fixtures. Earlier this year, it paid $1 billion for the exclusive US rights to the NFL’s Thursday night game until 2033.
BT and US media giant Warner Brothers Discovery announced a BT Sport/Eurosport joint venture last month, in a deal that could be worth as much as £633 million to the British communications firm.
Canal+, meanwhile, has bought the exclusive rights to the Champions League in France for the 2024-27 period for €480 million.
Amazon and BT declined to comment when approached by The Athletic.
You also need 3 to watch Rangers. Utterly fùcking ridiculous.You need 3 to watch the EPL.
€480m per seasonSo BT/Amazon pay €1.7bn for the CL rights for the 2024-27 period, yet Canal+ only had to pay €480m for the exclusive rights to show the matches in France for the same timeframe.
How does that work? Doesn't seem fair that broadacasters in the UK had to pay over three times as much which will surely have a negative effect on UK consumer prices.
I read that Sky can’t compete with BT Sport with money as BT are cash rich due to Openreach, and we all know how much money Amazon have.I think I read a price increase was already happening , but this is Amazon not a normal company , they can take hit for years , drive rivals out the market place , and then put prices up . Will be restrictions on percentage of games they can show , but once they are involved , doesn’t end well for rivals .
There’s active competition for the rights in the U.K. which drives the price up.So BT/Amazon pay €1.7bn for the CL rights for the 2024-27 period, yet Canal+ only had to pay €480m for the exclusive rights to show the matches in France for the same timeframe.
How does that work? Doesn't seem fair that broadacasters in the UK had to pay over three times as much which will surely have a negative effect on UK consumer prices.
And I'll wager you wish you still had that nightmare. No slight intended.That would suit me, but I feel bad for the older generation. My grandad passed last year, but he just would never have been able to watch a game by himself on Prime, or any other streaming service.
Sounds simple to most of us, but anything other than changing channels he just couldn't get his head around. Honestly, sky was a five year long nightmare and that's just a remote.
Canal + have only been able to buy the rights in France as a result of losing domestic rights to for ligue 1 to AmazonBBC to show highlights and Amazon to broadcast Champions League from 2024
The BBC will show highlights of the Champions League for the first time from 2024, with Amazon also buying rights to broadcast some matches, The Athletic understands. The package acquired by the BBC means they will show highlights from all Champions League action on Wednesday nights. Amazon...theathletic.com
Amazon has bought the rights to broadcast some Champions League games in the United Kingdom from 2024, The Athletic understands.
The tech giant will be able to show a number of games from UEFA club competitions — including the Champions League, Europa League and Europa Conference League — during the 2024-27 cycle.
BT Sport will retain the majority of the rights and will be able to show more games than previously, as the number of matches to be played in those competitions will increase when the formats change.
It is understood that the overall value of the rights has increased by approximately 20 per cent, with most of the new money coming from Amazon. The total package is now worth €1.7 billion over three years.
BT has owned the rights in the UK since 2015, when it spent big to take them from ITV and Sky.
Amazon shows 20 Premier League games a season in the UK on Prime Video and also broadcasts tennis and some rugby union fixtures. Earlier this year, it paid $1 billion for the exclusive US rights to the NFL’s Thursday night game until 2033.
BT and US media giant Warner Brothers Discovery announced a BT Sport/Eurosport joint venture last month, in a deal that could be worth as much as £633 million to the British communications firm.
Canal+, meanwhile, has bought the exclusive rights to the Champions League in France for the 2024-27 period for €480 million.
Amazon and BT declined to comment when approached by The Athletic.
Sky are owned by Comcast , second largest broadcasting & cable company in the world and US largest home internet provider , BT are less than quarter the size , so they could easily compete with BT , but Sky deal hasn’t been seen as a good for Comcast as worth less than what they paid , as bought them at their peak in 2018 , subscription numbers have declined for various reasons , and they may not want invest anymore than they need to .I read that Sky can’t compete with BT Sport with money as BT are cash rich due to Openreach, and we all know how much money Amazon have.
BT aren’t allowed to use money made from Openreach for broadcast rights etc.I read that Sky can’t compete with BT Sport with money as BT are cash rich due to Openreach, and we all know how much money Amazon have.
it's not women's netball or other sports that nobody watches eitherI read that Sky can’t compete with BT Sport with money as BT are cash rich due to Openreach, and we all know how much money Amazon have.
Sky are just as strong now as ever. They’ve adjusted to focus on owning the platform and less about the channels. Purely for convenience, people have sky q because it has everything in the one place. Just because they’re not making money from direct subs, doesn’t mean they still aren’t making a fortune from i player, Spotify, BT sports, Netflix, Disney and YouTube apps.Sky are finished IMO.
When the CL or europa is on the tele it makes my days better.I rarely watch European football until the latter stages or its us involved.
It is indeed. Proper UHD.
However given the cash involved I fully expect this to become a separate subscription, outwith normal Prime.
Personally, I left sky in March last year after spending approx £10k over 10 years (vip don’t make me laugh).Sky are just as strong now as ever. They’ve adjusted to focus on owning the platform and less about the channels. Purely for convenience, people have sky q because it has everything in the one place. Just because they’re not making money from direct subs, doesn’t mean they still aren’t making a fortune from i player, Spotify, BT sports, Netflix, Disney and YouTube apps.
One thing the various streaming services who've got the rights to leagues / competitions over here have right is the highlight package.One of the greatest losses of Champions' League football from ITV was the highlights show.
An hour or so of all of that night's games, usually starting the back of 10.
It also usually meant that you could watch the highlights without knowing any scores. I know BT stick their highlights up on YouTube after the game, but there's usually a bit of a wait and they tell you the result in the title of the video.
All you have to do is share a log in with a pal and you have halved the bill.I would bet on this.
Stan (similar to Netflix) here in Australia won the contract for the Champions League / Europa / Conference last year.
Stan was $15 a month.
When they won that, they brough out Stan Sport which was $10 a month. Can't get sport without the Stan account, so for those of us (like me) who didn't have Stan already it was $25/month for the Europa games.
Premier Sports for are rank rottenAt the minute we have:
Sky - league
BT - europe
Premier - domestic cups
Now we are gonna need some other bunch of cowboys to watch some of our European games! No wonder people find other ways to watch football.
As if the cost of living ain’t going up enough. Fucking sick of it
It's amazing what can happen when you're an organisation that refuses to pay taxIt’s Amazon mate , driven by prime subscribers , I don’t think they will all about power in the marketplace , the money involved in TV rights etc is nothing for them.
I don’t know what you’re based the view that they’re done on, other than you cancelling.Personally, I left sky in March last year after spending approx £10k over 10 years (vip don’t make me laugh).
Haven’t spent 1 minute regretting that decision other than sky plus which I loved.
Alternative arrangements obviously in place but other than that we have all the other subs which you mentioned and they total less than half that of sky and even then we could probably save money with streamlining.
I stand by the view they are done.
Edit: not BT Sports, mrs has that free on her phone and I have the alternative arrangements.
As I said above , they haven’t been a great buy for Comcast . Worth less than when purchased in 2018 .I don’t know what you’re based the view that they’re done on, other than you cancelling.
You might be happy to watch the subs on another platform, but many prefer to have them in the one place, that’s why they’re still successful.
They’re owned by one of the largest media companies in the world, they regularly post profits of 1.5-2bn, they’re well hedged in the market with broadband/mobile/tv/q and they own 90% of the rights to the biggest and most watched league in the world.
It's a money loser. News channels lose money. Sky Sports News have an audience and even that's diminished over the years as people go elsewhere.I’ve often wondered why BT have launched a sports news channel.
Sky has just been left to dominate this area of the market since Setanta left UK
They have ESPN rights here so even a UK version of Sportcenter would be such a welcomed change to the rotten SSN. Show us highlights of American sports as well as the usual suspects that we get here
Just saying what I readBT aren’t allowed to use money made from Openreach for broadcast rights etc.
Personally, I left sky in March last year after spending approx £10k over 10 years (vip don’t make me laugh).
Haven’t spent 1 minute regretting that decision other than sky plus which I loved.
Alternative arrangements obviously in place but other than that we have all the other subs which you mentioned and they total less than half that of sky and even then we could probably save money with streamlining.
I stand by the view they are done.
Edit: not BT Sports, mrs has that free on her phone and I have the alternative arrangements.
They are still making huge profits every year though.As I said above , they haven’t been a great buy for Comcast . Worth less than when purchased in 2018 .
Hopefully BBC Scotland not involved.
Profits have been dropping each year since takeover , still over a billion per annum , isn’t huge for company purchased for £29b 4 years ago , Sky aren’t going anywhere ,can provide everything on the one platform . It depends what Amazon want from it all really . They can have a negative effect on a rivals share price by just getting involved in that sector .They are still making huge profits every year though.
It costs a lot but is ultimately the best service for watching tv by miles, nobody else has anything anywhere near as good as Sky Q, and all it’s apps.
They are embracing streaming services now as well.
The only way I can see them starting to struggle is if they lose the EPL rights which are the jewel in their crown and always have been.
Depends on the terms of the deal if BBC Scotland have been given an opt out or simply it is a networked highlights programmeHopefully BBC Scotland not involved.
Do you have Sky Q?Sky need to get amazon into their channels. Bugs me having to route through the apps section
I presume when they say first pick of the Tuesday games it will be that they only show 1 game and BT show the rest?BT Sport
CL 533 of 550 games per season
All Europa League & Europa Conference League as now
Super Cup?
Amazon Prime
CL 17 per season - 1st pick of Tuesday games
BBC
CL Highlights = to be shown from 10pm each Wednesday night
So the prime price really does not need to go up just to cover 17 games? if so excellent.BT Sport
CL 533 of 550 games per season
All Europa League & Europa Conference League as now
Super Cup?
Amazon Prime
CL 17 per season - 1st pick of Tuesday games
BBC
CL Highlights = to be shown from 10pm each Wednesday night
Yes 1 game per Tuesday matchdayI presume when they say first pick of the Tuesday games it will be that they only show 1 game and BT show the rest?
That would be my thoughts as well as if they are literally getting one game a week then they can’t really justify the increase until they get more substantial coverageSo the prime price really does not need to go up just to cover 17 games? if so excellent.
Amazon prime isn’t going to increase in price due to the CL rights, if it does it’s going to be down to the same reasons as it did in the US recently which was due things such as inflation, increased transport costs and the overall expansion of prime to cover areas like pharmacy.That would be my thoughts as well as if they are literally getting one game a week then they can’t really justify the increase until they get more substantial coverage
Probably not if Amazon are happy with itSo the prime price really does not need to go up just to cover 17 games? if so excellent.