Cake chaos - copper demoted for football banter over birthday cake

It wasn't the guy having the birthday, it was someone else

She's got no way of telling who it could be.
Maybe someone after her job?
It would seem Police Scotland is a complete mess. Chief Constable suspended, ACC suspended. Complete leaderless shambles. Its no wonder nonsense like this is allowed to happen.
 
Police Scotland is full of hunks who grass each other up at the first opportunity. They have filled it with all kinds who are not able to carry out the job but are happy to rat on anyone they can.

The incompetence from the bottom to the top, the Scottish Police Authority, PIRC and their political masters is unbelievable.

Who suffers of course, Joe Public

Seems to be the case all over, I have a mate wo was a copper in a South of England force, Quit after 10 years as he couldn't stand all the crap.
 
Don't see how it's religious bigotry.

History tells us no young child is safe in amongst those filthy poets. The Catholic Church is the most disgusting horrible institution on this whole earth.

What that poor woman said was nothing but facts.
Yep pretty much "fair comment".
 
She was careless in her use of words. These days she should have known not to use the 'f' word as, regardless of what we think, it's meaning has been changed by a variety of court decisions. It's almost as toxic as the 'n' or 'p' words. Added to that, the Police are especially sensitive to these things following things like the McPherson report and the Chhokar case.

The Police, especially the upper ranks, are the most politically correct body you will find.
 
It's a completely different police force from the one I knew for a good number of years, years ago the poor wee soul who complained would have ended up patrolling around a housing scheme on his own. Banter between both sets of supporters within the police force was common place and honestly came across more downright hatred for each other than anywhere else in the workplace, but grassing up is a common theme within a certain persuasion.
 
It would be interesting to know if the squealer was represented by the "RC Police Federation" or whatever name it goes by. If it wasn't, then referring to terrorists and their supporters by name must be non sectarian. If the Cnt was, then it's not before time that a "Non RC Police Federation" was formed in the interests of equality.

BTW, thanks for posting OP.
 
Surely if they have to punish her then a months suspension without pay would have sufficed. Demoted to constable talk about overkill ffs.
 
I know Ruth she is a good bluenose.
However she would not respond to seeing a cake by saying that, there seems to be missing banter between the group with the cake and her where it has escalated.
However grown adults eating a Celtc cake at work would suggest that football banter was the norm.
Unfortunately Ruth has paid the penalty but 3 ranks is disgusting.

We wouldnae have lasted 5 mins now>
 
Her work colleague needs a boot in the baws/fanny for a start.

I’m sure there has been plenty banter the other way a no one gives a flying phuck!

She’s involved in numerous murder cases all of which are now being derailed because some thick c.unt is offended by a joke that’s actually true!!!


And yes she would get it!:p
 
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/devastated-top-cops-career-tatters-11545665

Celtic birthday cake bigotry row cop demoted over Rangers 'banter' claim
High-flying Ruth Gilfillan was booted down three ranks with fellow officers split over her treatment.
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A row over a Celtic cake saw Rangers fan Ruth Gilfillan demoted from rank of Detective Chief Inspector (Image: Mark Anderson/Daily Record)
A senior detective at the centre of a religious bigotry row has been demoted to constable after an inquiry.

Detective Chief Inspector Ruth Gilfillan was one of Police Scotland’s most highly rated rising stars at the time of the incident in August 2015.

But after a colleague complained about a sectarian remark, she has lost three ranks and faces a massive financial penalty.

Friends say that she has been “absolutely devastated” by the demotion ruling.

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Gilfillan was elite cop at the head of Police Scotland’s human trafficking unit. (Image: Mark Anderson)
At the time of the incident, mother-of-four Gilfillan was head of Police Scotland’s human trafficking unit.

The 45-year-old law and politics graduate will see her salary plummet from £55,000 a year to £38,000.

And it means she could lose as much as £100,000 in future pension payments when she retires.

The row erupted after one of a group of colleagues in her company had a Celtic birthday cake.

Gilfillan exchanged banter about refusing to eat the detective’s cake.

But she was also accused of making a joke about children being at risk of abuse in Catholic schools.

She was informed of the demotion decision at a disciplinary hearing earlier this month.

Gilfillan refused to comment but a friend said: “She is devastated by the decision and is struggling to come to terms with it.

“She understands that what she said was wrong and she is extremely apologetic.

“She wanted to say sorry in person to her fellow officer at the outset but was advised not to by the people carrying out the investigation.

“Ruth Gilfillan is highly respected as a detective by people she has worked with from all religious backgrounds. She is almost universally popular.

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How we reported it at the time
“The remark that she made was wrong but Ruth and the majority of her colleagues believe the
punishment was excessive.

“There is also disquiet about the way the investigation was carried out, with the deliberation taking just over an hour.”

Gilfillan initially faced a criminal charge but that was dropped and she did not appear in court.

It is understood the charge against her at the disciplinary hearing was conduct unbecoming of a police officer.

The Scottish Police Federation said yesterday that they plan to appeal the decision by senior officers to demote her.

The row has caused a rift between officers, with many of Gilfillan’s colleagues believing she has been harshly treated.

The colleague who made the complaint has been relocated following a backlash from other officers.

Another source said: “It is a really bad case and has caused a real split among a group of officers who were very close.

“The person who made the complaint has suffered as well in career terms.

“It is understandable that a complaint was made. But the feeling is that it could have been handled better.

“Ruth is a big Rangers fan and everyone in the force is aware of this.

“Ruth apologised and was deeply sorry.

“She regularly worked 80 hours a week and was involved in numerous murder inquiries.

“This is an officer who has been dedicated to her job.

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Row was sparked over remarks about a Celtic birthday cake
“She accepts that what she said was wrong but her punishment is too severe.”

Gilfillan led a team of officers who targeted prostitution and modern-day slavery and has been involved in operations against firms and individuals who are suspected of using smuggled workers.

While at the helm, she changed how the force dealt with people trafficking and made Police Scotland proactively identify victims while targeting organised crime groups.

She also introduced a policy that women working in the sex industry were no longer to be automatically arrested.

She has been ordered out of the elite Scottish Crime Campus in Gartcosh, Lanarkshire, and is thought to be performing administrative duties at the force’s HQ in Glasgow’s Dalmarnock.

Another source said: “Ruth made a difference while she was a detective.

“She worked hard and was always willing to learn. Ruth is a tough cop and had her run-ins with other officers over the years.”

Police Scotland have repeatedly stated their determination to tackle sectarian abuse and
offensive behaviour.

A Crown Office spokesman said yesterday: “The procurator fiscal received a report concerning a 43-year-old woman in relation to an alleged incident on August 20, 2015.

“After careful consideration of all of the available evidence, Crown counsel instructed that there was insufficient evidence in law to take criminal proceedings in the case.”

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Police Scotland HQ in Dalmarnock, Glasgow (Image: Daily Record)
It is understood that after prosecution was ruled out, the Crown Office then referred the case back to senior officers at Police Scotland for possible disciplinary action.

David Kennedy, deputy general secretary of the Scottish Police Federation, said yesterday: “The Scottish Police Federation will be appealing the decision on behalf of Constable Ruth Gilfillan.”

It is understood that Gilfillan’s appeal will be heard by an assistant chief constable within the next 60 days.

If the decision is upheld, she can then take her challenge against the demotion to the police appeals tribunal.

Police Scotland said last night: “This matter remains a live internal conduct process and as such, it would be inappropriate to comment further.”

The allegations against Gilfillan were investigated by the Police Scotland Professional Standards Unit (PSU). They are responsible for probing allegations of misconduct by police officers and support staff.

The PSU also investigate complaints made by the public about officers and handle cases where potential criminal behaviour has already been established.

Their role is different from that of the controversial former Counter Corruption Unit, now called the Anti-Corruption Unit.

They investigate allegations against officers and police staff suspected of being involved in criminal behaviour or organised crime.

After the allegation of sectarianism was made against Gilfillan, all witnesses to the alleged remarks were interviewed.



It could have been worse for her if she'd have commented on the chapel mass style candles lighting up the cake.
 
No sympathy for her whatsoever she should have known better she would be the same cop that would jail and ruin you and I if we made the same comment in the street and I bet the ‘it was only banter’ wouldn’t wash with her
 
Snp and their supporters have turned society in general into a soft cushioned easily offended pussy nation with their allied bitter Catholics at the forefront!

Disgusting harsh punishment from a dictatorship establishment! Sickeningly sad times we live in!
 
Once she admitted her behaviour as a police officer was wrong it was end game for her.

Gilfillan refused to comment but a friend said: “She is devastated by the decision and is struggling to come to terms with it.

“She understands that what she said was wrong and she is extremely apologetic.
To honest for her good, the perennial offended deny everything and usually get away with it.
 
Pretty sure this story is a few month old.
Yeah, date on the story is November - and what happened to boycotting the Record? :)

This is from a couple of days ago

Demoted bigot slur cop in bullying claim over sectarian birthday cake row
Ruth Gilfillan was stripped of three ranks over a sectarian 'joke' and she now says investigating officer Julie Henry was "threatening and oppressive”.

By
Graeme Donohoe

A senior police officer demoted over a sectarian comment has lodged a bullying complaint against a high-flying detective.

Former chief inspector Ruth Gilfillan, who was stripped of three ranks after a bigotry row, claims DCI Julie Henry targeted fellow officers with threats during an investigation into her own conduct.

Gilfillan submitted allegations to Police Scotland top brass while she was being probed over a remark to a colleague about a Celtic birthday cake she said was a joke.

She was told last October that no action would be taken against the ex-Counter Corruption Unit boss after an investigation cleared Henry of any wrongdoing.

Now Gilfillan’s complaint is being examined by the Police Investigations and Review Comissioner. A PIRC spokeswoman said: “The complainer is being kept informed with the progress.”

Gilfillan raised the issue with the force in November 2016. The complaint centres on claims Henry was “threatening and oppressive” to officers while she conducted an investigation into Gilfillan.

Gilfillan, 45, was demoted in November after being found guilty of behaviour unbecoming of a police officer – which led to a salary cut from £55,000 to £38,000.

Chief Superintendent Mark Hargreaves said an investigation into the complaint about DCI Henry had been carried out and a full response sent on October 19.


He added: “If the complainer is unhappy, they are at liberty to refer the complaint to PIRC for review.”

Gilfillan led the force’s human trafficking unit and appeared in Channel 4 documentary Modern British Slavery before her demotion.

Henry received a bravery award when she and a colleague pulled a man from a house fire in Oban, Argyll in 1997.
 
Her treatment is deplorable.

Maybe she can whistleblow if she thinks the police force is corrupt on a religious basis
 
So woman tells truth about Catholic churches someone complains and she gets demoted?

I despise this wee cesspit of a country. If I was her I'd be right out of there, fcuk the lot of them!
 
IF it was a joke about child abuse then it was ill thought and inappropriate, IMO. However, the punishment seems excessive and counter productive to Police Scotland if she was as good as intimated.

I can't understand the need to make a formal complaint if you are all tight knit, and an apology or a "word" would have been better sought.
 
Yeah, date on the story is November - and what happened to boycotting the Record? :)

This is from a couple of days ago
There is a boycott. One poster cut and paste the story so hundreds can read about the bias on here. They get the one hit so lose out on the rest of us reading their site
 
It's yet another example of what those rat bastards get up to.

Can't take a joke so they go running to the bosses. Filthy fucks.

This is fucking vile, I would like to see the fanny who reported her, named and shamed front and centre on every media outlet.

What has becomes of society theses days that a few glib jokes etc can get you demoted. Dirty 19th Century Terrorist Bastards.

Imagine actually reporting that to your superiors, When did society become so fuckling soft, sensitive and lilly livered to any little remark that may annoy or offend or upset.

POLICE SCOTLAND ARE A FUCKING JOKE FOR ALLOWING THIS TO GO THAT FAR, WAY OTT

Rancid organisation and clearly sending a message out here.

I fucking despise living in this backward thinking shitpit. I could go on here but would probably get a ban.

Minority groups in this country have far too much to say..... without actually doing anything.... They just shout about being offended about one thing or another....Then try and politicize it, This shit needs to stop.
 
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Snp and their supporters have turned society in general into a soft cushioned easily offended pussy nation with their allied bitter Catholics at the forefront!

Disgusting harsh punishment from a dictatorship establishment! Sickeningly sad times we live in!


But the thing is they are not offended its mock offence that is the truly vile bit in all this, it is MOCK OFFENCE they are playing the fucking game. I bet your bottom dollar if said offended police officer took a lie detector tests to see if he is REALLY offended by PLAYGROUND nonsense because that is what it was nothing more.


It is so easy for someone to say they are offended. Oh well that's that eh... They are offended i better shut up %^*& THAT!!!

That is orwellian shite right there!! Social conditioning at its finest.
 
She should have been promoted not demoted.....an outburst befitting of a Chief Constable!! God knows Police Scotland need one.....while on this matter.....where’s the transparency of why several Chief Constables have either been sacked....or placed on garden leave during investigations.....why aren’t these facts been published to all like this ongoing case?
 
Something a lot seem to be missing is the complaint made it's way to the PF's office. Someone wanted her prosecuted

This whole things been coordinated to manage her out the door. Wonder who replaced her?
 
Roman Catholic schools are sectarian. That's the whole point of them. Anyone sending their children to one is therefor showing support for sectarianism.
 
Something a lot seem to be missing is the complaint made it's way to the PF's office. Someone wanted her prosecuted

This whole things been coordinated to manage her out the door. Wonder who replaced her?
Sister Teresa from the convent of Police Scotland
 
So upsetting,some bed wetting,puddle drinking RC loser on her high horse is much more important than.......... children being abused,children being punted round Europe by traffickers and children being forced into prostitution.Right you are Police Scotland bravo.
 
There is a boycott. One poster cut and paste the story so hundreds can read about the bias on here. They get the one hit so lose out on the rest of us reading their site


yeah, but he left the link in! Still, he is the boss!
 
It's a completely different police force from the one I knew for a good number of years, years ago the poor wee soul who complained would have ended up patrolling around a housing scheme on his own. Banter between both sets of supporters within the police force was common place and honestly came across more downright hatred for each other than anywhere else in the workplace, but grassing up is a common theme within a certain persuasion.
So are other things.
 
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