Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

Grigo Yossarian

Well-Known Member
The football authorities have used the court case excuse as a get out clause. They have no intention of ever sanctioning this mob.
The filth should already have been charged with bringing the game into disrepute with further charges to follow.
This.

We need to get them in a pincer movement mate & force the duckers into doing their jobs.
 

Grigo Yossarian

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https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JUSTICE+AT+LAST;+Celtic+Boys'+Club+abuser+faces+jail+after+ends+30...-a060945642

Meanwhile, in the light of the scandal, Celtic have issued a new code of conduct which has to be signed by every employee, youth coach and boys' club official.

Boys' club secretary Robert Wilson also said: "Every step has been taken to ensure an incident like this will not happen again."

Thanks @Humbug for the above info and links supplied,this one is intresting and maybe worth while adding to emails sent.
Good point BB ;)
 

Humbug

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@Humbug takes all this credit Bears,had all this info and links stored on various devices,awesome find!
Don't forget this has been a topic on the board for more years than there should have been,over the years there have been loads of posters with great info. We are all doing our bit, all the information is out there it just needs exposure.

Sadly years ago many of the old bloggers were labelled as cranks and bigots by too many unwilling to believe this could actually happen, times have changed.

Glad to do my bit, the victims must have their day and be heard.

Tick Tock
 

willbear

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https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JUSTICE+AT+LAST;+Celtic+Boys'+Club+abuser+faces+jail+after+ends+30...-a060945642

Meanwhile, in the light of the scandal, Celtic have issued a new code of conduct which has to be signed by every employee, youth coach and boys' club official.

Boys' club secretary Robert Wilson also said: "Every step has been taken to ensure an incident like this will not happen again."

Thanks @Humbug for the above info and links supplied,this one is intresting and maybe worth while adding to emails sent.
Bobafett Bear; Notwithstanding that it was long after the horse had bolted;

(1) If that text is accurate," WHY DID CELTIC" issue (assume they composed it) that document? (on cfc logo paper?)
(2) Did they make sure & retain the signed receipt of issue on CFC
Filing System.
(3) Smacks of Wee Fungus; too protect his investment & make it look like there was actual paper work kept in order, for any likely visit by follow on departments maybe?
 

Tommy

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Don't forget this has been a topic on the board for more years than there should have been,over the years there have been loads of posters with great info. We are all doing our bit, all the information is out there it just needs exposure.

Sadly years ago many of the old bloggers were labelled as cranks and bigots by too many unwilling to believe this could actually happen, times have changed.

Glad to do my bit, the victims must have their day and be heard.

Tick Tock

@Humbug...if you haven't done so already,can you fire everything you have to lisa at the observer?
 

Mosset Bear

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I've given up on New Balance. I emailed them several weeks ago informing them that I'd binned my NB running gear and wouldn't be buying any of their stuff as long as they are associated with that vile club.

Got a reply next day, thanking me for "reaching out" to them and stating that my message had been forwarded to the appropriate department to be dealt with.

Last week,I contacted the same woman who replied to me and told her that it was now four weeks and I was still waiting for an answer. I said that I had to assume NB are quite happy to continue their association with the scum and that loads of NB customers being disgusted by it is of no concern.

I applaud all the work you guys on here are doing. I wanted to do something and given the NB/running connection, I had to let them know how I felt.

If they do reply, I'll post their answer on here.
 

onceuponabriggsbear

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https://www.thefreelibrary.com/JUSTICE+AT+LAST;+Celtic+Boys'+Club+abuser+faces+jail+after+ends+30...-a060945642

Meanwhile, in the light of the scandal, Celtic have issued a new code of conduct which has to be signed by every employee, youth coach and boys' club official.

Boys' club secretary Robert Wilson also said: "Every step has been taken to ensure an incident like this will not happen again."

Thanks @Humbug for the above info and links supplied,this one is intresting and maybe worth while adding to emails sent.
Oh fuuking really? I'll bet it defo has happened since Mr Robert Wilson went on the record with the parcel of sh.ite quoted above. Ask Mccafferty, Cairney, or just read the archived trials. Lying scumbags
 

monkey magic

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https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Shameful+airport+pact+haunts+us+after+5+years;+EXCLUSIVE:+Truth...-a061256232

The secret deal which protected a sex pervert for five years was struck in an American airport cafe.

Hours before Celtic Boys' Club were due to fly home, five men sat around a table at bustling Boston airport.

There they sealed the shameful pact that has haunted them since.

Frank Cairney - the man who WAS Celtic Boys' Club - agreed to resign and a dingy chapter in Celtic's history was born.

A young player had claimed he had been touched sexually by Cairney while in bed.

Now the other four men who were part of that airport deal, former chairman Jim McNally and officials Bill Gilfillan, John Gallacher and Willie Hampson, have decided to speak about it for the first time.

They talked to the Daily Record which last week lifted the lid off the sex abuse scandal at the boys club.

Jim McNally, speaking for all four, said: "Apart from sworn statements to Celtic and the police, none of us has ever spoken about what happened.

"It has been painful and has taken a great toll on all of our lives."

Players had been staying in the homes of ex-pat Celtic fans in Kearney, New Jersey, in 1991 for a showpiece tournament. Two were living with exiled Scot, Pat Brannigan.

Jim said: "Pat Brannigan told me that a boy had made a serious allegation against Frank Cairney. I interviewed the boy after Pat Brannigan came for me very early in the morning.

"Pat and his wife Diane were there. I asked a second boy who was also staying at Pat's house to leave the room.


"The first lad was very distraught. He repeated the allegation of a sexual nature against Frank Cairney.

"He said it happened in Pat Brannigan's basement where the boys were sleeping.

"Frank had been staying at a hotel nearby. But it wouldn't have been unusual for him to be in the house because he always went around to where the boys were staying, to make sure they were all right.

"Initially I found the whole thing hard to believe. I had never experienced anything like that before in my life.

"I honestly thought and hoped it was horseplay that had got out of hand a wee bit. Immediately I talked to the other three officials.

"I told them what had happened. We were visiting a theme park that day and I got the senior players together and told them what had happened. They already knew.

"I asked them if they would keep their eye on this lad until we got things sorted out."

He continued: "We decided that we would talk to Frank Cairney and we did. He very forcibly, strenuously denied the allegation. He was very angry. He said nothing happened.

"While we were talking about it, Pat Brannigan arrived and said he had spoken to his lawyer and the police.

"I also spoke to Pat's lawyer about the procedure and what we would do.

"I asked him what would happen if the boy made a formal complaint. And what he told me was the real shocker of the whole thing.

"He said that Frank Cairney would be charged and that the boy, and the other boy who was staying in the house, would be put in protective custody."

Distraught Jim and the officials were terrified to bring in police in case the boys were taken away from them.

He said:"I was absolutely shattered about that. There was no way I could have landed at Glasgow Airport and told two sets of parents that their boys weren't there.

"After that meeting I immediately contacted Celtic, but it was the Glasgow Fair and I had a terrible job trying to get a hold of people.

"I tried Jack McGinn, Jimmy Farrell (Celtic directors), but could not get them. I then phoned Sean McMullen and Bobby Creilly, two other boys' club officials.

"I told them what had happened and I told them of my fear that the boys would be taken into protective custody and that this wasn't for me or even the boy to decide what they should do. I felt his parents should make that decision.


"This was the Thursday and we were due home on the Sunday.

"We also booked three tickets to be held just in case the boy wanted home early.

"I spoke to the lad at regular intervals and he opted to stay at Brannigan's. He seemed to be coping.

"He continued to play in the tournament. I've always admired the boy and how he coped with all of this.

"He was only 16 at the time. He actually started officially playing for Celtic on the Monday after he returned home."

Jim McNally didn't call in the police, but Pat Brannigan may have brought them in. Jim said: "If the police interviewed the boy I wasn't aware of it. I think Pat Brannigan felt we weren't handling it correctly. But the reason we handled it the way we did was because I didn't believe it was up to me to decide what to do.

"Eventually there was a meeting with the boy's parents which Creilly and McMullen had been trying to arrange .

"We left Kennedy airport, New York, on Sunday, but still there was no word. We stopped over at Boston and this is where it all happened.

"There was a message at Boston for me to phone home.

"I was told the meeting had concluded and the outcome was that the boy's parents were quite happy to leave the matter in Celtic's hands, provided Frank Cairney resigned from the boys' club on returning.

"Myself, Willie Hampson, Bill Gilfillan and John Gallacher, the four officials, met in the cafe at Boston airport and we told Frank Cairney what we had been advised.

"He agreed to resign when he went home. We arrived at Glasgow and went straight to the park.

"Jack McGinn organised a meeting at 11am with Frank Cairney and a meeting with me at 2pm.

"At that meeting, he gave me a copy of Frank Cairney's resignation which said he had resigned because he had got promotion in his company and the pressure of work.

"We were still concerned that we weren't quite covered, so we individually consulted lawyers and collectively spoke to a QC for advice.

"He asked if we could produce any more boys who could quote incidents from anywhere at any time. But we knew we couldn't do that."

The deal they had to be part of has left them sad, jaundiced men. All have since left Celtic Boys' Club.

Jim added: "The boy told me what happened. I cannot say what happened.

"But the parents wanted the boy to get on with his career and get on with his life, once they had been given assurances he was coping."

He added: "We were never sworn to secrecy. The boy asked us not to talk about it and we respected his wishes."

Club hotline for victims

Celtic last night set up a counselling service to provide support for families struggling to cope with the trauma of the Boys' Club revelations.

Announcing the hotline, chairman Fergus McCann said: "Celtic Football Club has been receiving many calls from people and families in distress over the alleged incidents.

"In addition to asking people to report allegations to the police, it is obvious many need advice of trained specialists."

The support and advice Hotline opens today and will run for a week between noon and midnight. It is costing Celtic pounds 5000.

McCann also offered his support to current officials of the Boys Club. He added: "It is a great pity their good work should be tarnished by these alleged incidents."

Boys' Club chairman Tony McGuinness said: "The hotline is a very welcome gesture."

Lorraine Rochford of Network Scotland, who have selected the specialists, added: "Celtic Football Club have to be commended for providing this service."

HOW WE EXPOSED SCANDAL

The Daily Record exclusively revealed the Celtic Boys' Club sex abuse scandal a week ago.

In a series of exclusive stories, Scotland's No 1 newspaper unmasked Jim Torbett and Frank Cairney.

We exposed how frightened young players were fondled by the club bosses they trusted.

We revealed how Cairney lied to a local newspaper with claims he didn't know one of his victims.

And we told how pervert Torbett was booted out of the club - only to be allowed to return years later.

After the Record's sensational reports, Torbett was again kicked out by the boys' club.

And detectives have confirmed that they plan to quiz the wealthy businessman.
If possible, this link should be sent to media and police sources in the USA as this meeting to subvert justice took place in that country. Anything relating to Frank Cairney's conviction here in Scotland could also be of great interest.
 

Purpolaris

Well-Known Member
Record13/081996


Just looking at the reporting of the 1991 Kearney New Jersey Incident

Record13/081996

FIVE years ago, police in America were asked to probe claims that there had been an incident involving boys' club general manager Frank Cairney and a young boy during a trip to the USA.

The boy later played for Celtic's first team. Police investigated, but no action was taken.

The second quote is the one that is often reported as the event

Scotland on Sunday18/08/1996

It was agreed, by Brady, the boy and his parents and the then Celtic board, that the police would not be informed.
The young player was assured that the alleged incident would have no effect on his future career at the club.
However, signed statements were taken by Celtic's lawyers from the four adults who had been on the New Jersey trip. All were sworn to silence.

Which one is it?
I know which one I believe.
 

Timskelper

Well-Known Member
Just had this reply from Lisa@theobserver.com

I have received multiple emails, 7 today. I will not be able to move forward unless I have actual police reports, testimony from parents/victims. No one has sent the information I requested, it is with our local police and my staff will see if we had anything in our older issues. Please respect my time, unless you can provide facts I would appreciate

My reply,

Hi Lisa,

Many thanks for your speedy reply. It's greatly appreciated.

Police reports could be an issue, as the club covered up the abuse (and continue to do so to this day). Hopefully this and many other details will come out when the victims get their day in court.

Regarding the testimony from parents/victims you would like, I highly doubt that would be available before the inevitable multiple court cases come to fruition too.

If I can get my hands on any of the relevant information that you've requested, I'll definitely get back to you with it as soon as I possibly can.

Thanks for your time.

Regards,


So, I'd suggest not 'bombarding' this lady with the similar information we have as it may hinder her dealing with this. She was quite specific (see above) in her request, but it will prove difficult at this time to obtain it before the court cases begin.

WATP
 

Britvic55

Well-Known Member
It would seem from what I'm reading that the SNP government have every confidence in the SFA to produce a report into nation wide paedophilia.
They see no need to get involved.
They see no need to alert Police Scotland.
They see no need to involve the various PF offices.
They think justice will be best served by ignoring the successful prosecutions which clearly indicate that CFC is the centre of a paedophile ring?
They think justice will be served by letting the SFA dither over issuing a final report because of legal cases they are not involved in?
 

Tommy

Well-Known Member
It’s facts she needs and police reports she’s telling me

Got told the same but i've given her all the articles i found relating to cairneys alleged abuse in usa but if it wasn't reported to police,there would be no trail.
However,one article sent mentions the parents the boy stayed with,so there's a starting point and then a follow up,could be asking the club for details of the tour,who stayed where etc and coaches etc.
 

Bobafett Bear

Well-Known Member
May i suggest that you keep the E-Mail addy off the public view

Restrict to "known" contributors via PM - save any of our lurking bheasts spamming her inbox to deflect and deny like they do
maybe not a bad idea,i have been sent screenshots of emails and posters on here on twitter,the scum have been saying they will email our new contacts.
 

willbear

Well-Known Member
The football authorities have used the court case excuse as a get out clause. They have no intention of ever sanctioning this mob.
The filth should already have been charged with bringing the game into disrepute with further charges to follow.
"Blues and Royals; The Football Authorities in Scotland should be USING the Court cases too formulate the evidence against CFC on charges of bringing the game
game into disrepute, with further charges to follow on, whenever we decide that
may be, after the conclusion of final(?) Crown Charges & Civil Litigation.

The two most recent cases of Cairney & McCafferty would give them all of the facts
required, that were established within the Crown(s) evidence ; not the SFA's.

Firstly, the facilitation of sexual assault of children on Celtic Football Club official

premises (by Paedophiles) on dates/charges from Crown evidence in Cairneys case

viz.-: That he indecently assaulted a 15 year old Male child @ Barrowfield Training

Ground between Jan. 1985 & Dec. 1986.

And in the McCafferty case (BBC News site-14th May 2019) from Patrick McGuire

on the case; "Two of the men on the charge sheet against McCafferty were abused

@ Celtic Park or their Barrowfield Tr. Ground". One went on to play professionally.

Now without details of JT's first or second case, is it possible that the SFA could
have started this after JT's first case on similar grounds to the recent evidence?

Now, that does not even begin to open up the graveyard of various (just about

everycunt) people within that Club that IS part of the cover-ups, my apologies on

this lads as I am not clairvoyant, though I feel that SINE DIE would cover it.

So all we need is a trip too the Big Court in Edinburgh, a Top QC + a Rich &

Understanding Good Guy for justice to follow OR HM Gov. too get the fucking

finger oot & get it rolling.

Anyone still think the SFA will have more pertinent evidence than the Crown?

What is the REAL reason for the delay, as it aint goin' AWAY THIS TIME.:mad:;):))
 
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