Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

CumbrianBear

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I can only hope players do their research before thinking about joining but i wouldn't be 100% confident they would.
A lot of talk about what amount they may have to pay out, but what is even more interesting to me is what amount of money have they spent already just trying to keep this swept under the carpet. I’d say they have spent millions pay staff extra and media etc to toe the line
 

muttley

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Only a full and open public inquiry by agencies outside Scotland into the decades of paedo rings at the Piggery will see the victims finally receive justice. However, Holyrood and the Scottish football authorities will not allow it. They want it all kept indoors and swept under the carpet. Those at the Piggery who knew and did nothing should all be publicly named and shamed.
 

Carson no1

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£10m between 50?

So that’s just 200 grand each?

Is that worth the years of turmoil and depression the victims have suffered?

One guy killed himself, did he not?

How can you put a price on that?
Life’s have been lost

Footballers have lost tens of millions of pounds had they stayed and become professional footballers but couldn’t bare to carry on

So lively hoods have been ruined

Football is big buissiness

They have lost millions

Family’s have lost

Fathers
Brothers

A lot of lost revenue
I’d be expecting each family to be getting

2 million each

50 victims

100 million minimum
 

Der Berliner

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Celtic FC will face a multimillion pound compensation claim “within months” unless it accepts responsibility for the paedophiles who preyed on young players, a senior lawyer has said.
Anyone able to tell why the acceptance of responsibility w-/should stop any compnsation claims?
 

daven37

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If they accept blame that leaves them open from further punishment from footballing authorities
Would that be the lesser of two evils for them considering the influence they seem to have in corridors of power at Hampden?

Not accepting blame will see them and surely senior directors from back then in court.
 

johnredx

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Dornans a Rhat and will say and do anything to protect his beloved scum, he had the chance in Holyrood today to ask the FM(wee Krankie) about child abuse at CFC, he didn't, he asked about mental health issue, I am not demeaning people who suffer from mental health, they need help and support, but others asked Questions about it, Dornan could have asked about abuse but didn't.
 

RFC97

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So, according to you, Celtic will be getting Benitez as manager and nothing will happen re paedo scandal - either you’re one of lifes pessimists or on the wrong forum mate.
I’ve never stated they will get him. Just concerned they might.

And lets see if anything happens to them, I won’t hold my breath.
 

Mexi

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I have read online that at the time of the no disclosures, to keep Celtic FC name out of the public after the USA trip that the financial man behind this was in fact Liewell. So Liewell knew too? May I point out this is someone who is joining the dots. No hard evidence but dynamite if true. It would make a farce of the SPFL and the SFA also if true.
Those guilty of the cover up must be banned from football Sine Die,.as well as investigated. They have shown themselves to be untrustworthy
 

Mark Walters

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I'd like to think that Celtic will finally do the decent thing and admit that these atrocious crimes were committed by people within their organisation / control, that they will sit down with the victims and admit that they as a club should have done far more to put a stop to it all those years ago, that they are eternally sorry for trying to bury the truth and disassociate their club from these terrible events in order to try and keep the name of Celtic fc clean and ultimately offer financial compensation.

However, they seem hell bent on denying these victims any sense of peace, closure and justice so they are having to go through the courts where they will ultimately get that anyway.

I'd rather the former than the later as the victims and their families deserve as swift a sense of justice on this as possible but should Celtic continue in their ridiculous stubbornness on this issue then I hope the justice system nails them and the stinking rancid club is hit in a way it can never recover from either morally or financially.
 

Masonboyne

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Here is the full version , the typo Gerard Kind should have read Gerald King , I'm sure.

Marc Horne
May 16 2019, 12:01am, The Times
Jim McCafferty sentence: Legal action over child abuse is imminent, Celtic warned


Celtic FC will face a multimillion pound compensation claim “within months” unless it accepts responsibility for the paedophiles who preyed on young players, a senior lawyer has said.
The warning from Patrick McGuire, who has represented some of the victims, comes after Jim McCafferty, 73, a former club kitman and Celtic Boys Club coach, was jailed for six years and nine months after admitting that he had molested boys over 24 years.
The jail sentence is the third to be handed down to former Celtic Boys Club staff after Jim Torbett, 71, its founder, and Frank Cairney, 83, a coach, were imprisoned for sexually assaulting youngsters.
Gerald King, 66, the former chairman of the boys’ club, was convicted of abusing four boys and a girl while he was employed as a primary school teacher, but was not jailed.
Mr McGuire, a partner with Thompsons Solicitors, said that court action would be launched imminently unless the club changed its stance.
Celtic has expressed sympathy for the victims but has insisted that the boys club is a separate organisation and not its responsibility.
Mr McGuire said: “We have formally intimated a large number of claims on behalf of survivors of all the four named paedophiles that operated under the guise of the wider Celtic umbrella. We continue to gather evidence and have got a lot of financial information. We have got the evidence of survivors, talking about the links.
“The case is being gathered and we absolutely will be going to court, and probably doing so in a matter of months, unless Celtic’s tack changes.”
Mr McGuire argued that Celtic should follow the precedent set by Manchester City, which has launched a compensation scheme for youngsters abused by Barry Bennell, a former youth coach and serial paedophile.
“Celtic’s board and chief executive should stop hiding behind their lawyers and start looking at what Manchester City has done,” he said.
It has been reported that a claim could amount to more than £5 million.
Celtic FC did not respond to a request for comment.
5 mil WTF....... how about 50 mil, what kind of lawyer is this? A pape for sure and shitting himself to do the right thing and put this club, financially, where it deserves to be. BROKE AND DESTITUTE, LIKE THE VICTIMS WERE LEFT TO BE
 

RFC97

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I think something has already happened.
Regardless what happens from here on they will forever be known to have covered up a paedophile ring spanning decades.

They've been branded and it won't go away.
There seems to be a complete lack of willingness to hold them account.
 

omegaman

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I don't know mate - that's what am asking.

What happens if celtic change tact and accept responsibility?

The lawyer seems to be threatening them with multiple claims totaling a max of £250m unless they accept they are accountable for this.

So to me that means if celtic do accept the blame it will be easier for them.
Possibly, but £10m for everyone feels on the low side - it’s not an office sweepstakes.

Conversely, Celtic clearly couldn’t afford a figure like £250m, so there probably will have to be some sort of compromise involved to ensure the victims gain compensation that doesn’t put Celtic out of business altogether.

I know that’s exactly what most of us would like to see happen and I think there’s a very good argument to say it would be fitting justice that such a rancid organisation was effectively shut down as a result of the abuse they attempted to cover up, but if the claims were so hefty there’s a chance Celtic would lapse into administration and then there could be a battle to get anything out of them at all.
 

Porrohman

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The football governing bodies in Scotland should be forced to issue sanctions against CFC for failing to protect the kids

6 convictions at CBC and CFC so the SFA need to take action

They were happy to punish us for financial mismanagement

So what are they going to do to Shame FC ?
Uefa should also be looking at this despicable mob and impose an indefinite European ban on them
 

daven37

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Possibly, but £10m for everyone feels on the low side - it’s not an office sweepstakes.

Conversely, Celtic clearly couldn’t afford a figure like £250m, so there probably will have to be some sort of compromise involved to ensure the victims gain compensation that doesn’t put Celtic out of business altogether.

I know that’s exactly what most of us would like to see happen and I think there’s a very good argument to say it would be fitting justice that such a rancid organisation was effectively shut down as a result of the abuse they attempted to cover up, but if the claims were so hefty there’s a chance Celtic would lapse into administration and then there could be a battle to get anything out of them at all.
It is well and truly on the low side but I suspect the lawyer is trying to force celtic to admit guilt and settle out of court.

In doing that they can settle with the victims who remember will still all be celtic fans and they will be pressured into accepting a deal that is not going to hurt celtic too much.

This may well end in a deal being brokered where the victims are offered a couple of hundred thousand and an apology which many may accept if they are already hard up.

I don't know - am putting wild guesses out there.
 

Div1872

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Getting back to the governing bodies and their part in this vile episode

In light of these latest paedophile convictions at Parkpaed When are the SFA and SPFL going to conduct an up to date Fit and Proper test on Shame FC ?

Clearly this “open secret” and now McCafferty pleading guilty to child sex abuse charges the governing bodies should be assessing Shame FC as let’s face it they knew for decades and done nothing to out the guilty

They have done more to protect the paedos who they knew had conducted the abuse

They should be punished for allowing potentially 100’s of boys to be abused

How do we get the F&P question raised ?

The SFA are protecting Shame FC too
 

JW1988

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It would be brilliant from both a justice side for the victims and their families & also for the blasé way Celtic have gone about this imo thinking they’re untouchable and the lack of dignity they’ve had with it all.
 

omegaman

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It is well and truly on the low side but I suspect the lawyer is trying to force celtic to admit guilt and settle out of court.

In doing that they can settle with the victims who remember will still all be celtic fans and they will be pressured into accepting a deal that is not going to hurt celtic too much.

This may well end in a deal being brokered where the victims are offered a couple of hundred thousand and an apology which many may accept if they are already hard up.

I don't know - am putting wild guesses out there.
I thought the lawyer representing the victims said they weren’t looking for out of court settlements; it’s about much more than that.
 

tintin69

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Mr McGuire said: “We have formally intimated a large number of claims on behalf of survivors of all the four named paedophiles that operated under the guise of the wider Celtic umbrella. We continue to gather evidence and have got a lot of financial information. We have got the evidence of survivors, talking about the links.
“The case is being gathered and we absolutely will be going to court, and probably doing so in a matter of months, unless Celtic’s tack changes.”

This bit is a bit alarming. Its the Lawyers that should be establishing the links. This was published today and still its all about McGuire looking for out of court settlements by making threats.
Get the scum in a court room.
 

Blue Steel

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Mr McGuire said: “We have formally intimated a large number of claims on behalf of survivors of all the four named paedophiles that operated under the guise of the wider Celtic umbrella. We continue to gather evidence and have got a lot of financial information. We have got the evidence of survivors, talking about the links.
“The case is being gathered and we absolutely will be going to court, and probably doing so in a matter of months, unless Celtic’s tack changes.”

This bit is a bit alarming. Its the Lawyers that should be establishing the links. This was published today and still its all about McGuire looking for out of court settlements by making threats.
Get the scum in a court room.
That’s what the financial information would be for also , more than one way to establish them .
 

Humbug

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Penn state have paid out upwards of $100 million now.

Not too dissimilar in that there were rumours and signals but those in charge chose to do nothing.

If theres not a similar outcome with Celtic it really does put a signal out to the world, Scotland is a relatively safe place to be a paedophile.
We should attach that phrase on to everything, contact our MP'S, the first minister and leaders of all the party's asking this question constantly until there is a public inquiry Mondraker.
They will not like that one bit
 

Tim Hunter

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Official Ticketer
Yes.

It changed from "The Celtic football and Athletic Company"

to

"Celtic Football club"

you know where im going
If they go down this line, they will have to give up claims to have won the European Cup, and any other titles and trophies.
They would then be investigated by the Scottish football authorities, when not only would there past be eradicated, but their future would be in serious jeopardy.
Which is absolutely fukking wonderful, life without the tarriers is what dreams are made of.
 

muttley

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Getting back to the governing bodies and their part in this vile episode

In light of these latest paedophile convictions at Parkpaed When are the SFA and SPFL going to conduct an up to date Fit and Proper test on Shame FC ?

Clearly this “open secret” and now McCafferty pleading guilty to child sex abuse charges the governing bodies should be assessing Shame FC as let’s face it they knew for decades and done nothing to out the guilty

They have done more to protect the paedos who they knew had conducted the abuse

They should be punished for allowing potentially 100’s of boys to be abused

How do we get the F&P question raised ?

The SFA are protecting Shame FC too

Those who knew at the Piggery and did nothing to end it, from the Boardroom downwards, should all be publicly named and shamed, and the Peasants thrown out of Scottish football.
 

dudzo

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Did we not get a notice of complaint raised against us years later about our accounts and participation in Europe? Where are you SFA and SPFL?
 

RFC97

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Yes, and being called out for the lying wriggling bastards that they are on national news.
Didn't realise you'd move the goalposts to it being something to your satisfaction happening.
They being mentioned on national news will change or do hee haw.

It’s well known what they’ve been up to and they have no shame anyway - making little attempt to apologize.

And being mentioned on national news is hardly justice is it. If my satisfaction is them being properly punished, then so be it.
 

Grigo Yossarian

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I want justice for the victims and more importantly than any points deducted, trophies stripped etc i want the whole world to know what a vile club this is from top to bottom and for them to be tarnished and shamed forever.
Me too mate. Let the world know about this ‘special club’.
 
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