Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

BlueNose94

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Hi folks , first post on forum . Having worked in the east end of Glasgow in the 90’s I was regularly asked to attend “sellick park” for conferences and meetings etc. Through the company I worked for . The boss of the company was an unrepentant bigot and rangers hater. He knew a few of us in the company despised everything about the club like no other but religiously booked the house of horrors as he knew they benefitted from the revenue. Needless to say I did not hang around in that company for long. This has been going on for decades with public and private institutions falling over themselves to use these facilities.
Been following this forum now for over a year and I am amazed and humbled by the efforts put in by the stalwarts and hidden grafters who are tirelessly trying to get justice for the victims. I have some stories to tell myself but will post these at a later date. Please also note that the sharing of data , horror stories , history and culpability has really opened my eyes up to living in Scotland 2019.
P.s. I knew my username is naff but I have a passion for studying the cosmos .
Welcome mate. Like @Timskelper said. Please be aware of what info you post and feel free to contact both of us anytime.
 
Welcome mate. Like @Timskelper said. Please be aware of what info you post and feel free to contact both of us anytime.
Thanks bluenose 94 , any private personal info I have will be p.m,d to you guys.On the subject matter of the Catholic Church in scotland and its close and personal relationship with “ the club like no other “ I try not to get angry or feel too much despair as I hope judgement day is coming . We will see . I find solace in watching re runs on you tube of Christopher Hitchens . He was an academic , writer , atheist journalist who committed his whole life to outing the fallacies of religion. I cant quote him verbatim but I am sure in one of his talks he talks about hitler in the 1930’s forging an alliance with the Roman Catholic nationalist party. Sound familiar !!!!!! . He also states if you take any fascist book or statement and change the word “ Fascist “ to “ Conservative Roman Catholic “ nothing changes. He was a far more knowledgeable and intelligent man than I will ever be so I trust his judgment implicitly. Underpinning all of this is my desire to see a full and unequivocal sorry to all the victims of the terrible abuse suffered and to compensate in an appropriate manner.
 

KYBear_74

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Again its maybe that stigma of the subject matter.

My Twitter relates to my career rather than personal.

So I cant really go retweeting everything about paedophilia. But I do click any links and send emails where I can.

Sorry, I know people probably expect more, but it would be inappropriate for me to be retweeting his messages. Even though I read all posted here.
Same.

Can't stand the platform because it usually just plays to the screamers. People who scream (or tweet the most on Twitter) in real life and make the most noise. No way for real dialog and meaningful discussion.

Hate Facebook too for completely different reasons. And I'm of the PC generation and work in the tech field!
 

Rathcool Kai

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Reply from L.S.E. regarding if celtc have broken rules, reply not relevant to the questions i put to them,have sent another email indicating that i am unhappy at their response, surely they're not being protected by them too? or are they?




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theateam

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Yeah. I'm just about to watch the second episode of that myself and I only found it while searching for Mea Maxima Culpa. The Keepers & Spotlight are also on Netflix If you haven't seen them yet.

MMC is available on Amazon Prime.
Seen spotlight a while ago, and just finished The Keepers, the kafflic Church has a lot to answer for.
 

Tommy

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This mob are an utter disgrace and embarrassment to scotland...our own MSP gavin newlands rabble rousing the choir.....someone please tell me "scots wa hae" is racist...i'm training my sights on this twat again...
 

BlueNose94

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This mob are an utter disgrace and embarrassment to scotland...our own MSP gavin newlands rabble rousing the choir.....someone please tell me "scots wa hae" is racist...i'm training my sights on this twat again...
For us bears who now live down south they are a disgrace. They dress in their tartan and make daily racist remarks against the English. Some English are let’s say small minded and class us all the same as this rabble.

Since this lot got into power I’ve found myself frequently having to educate people down here that we’re not all like this. They are a complete embarrassment. Every bear has to come out in Scotland and vote tactically to get this lot out.

They have let the IRA back onto our streets and openly share the same views as Sinn Fein. They have let down people in our society for the sake of votes.

We must come out and vote. This next election will be one of the most important elections in years imo. The fear I have if they stay in power is that fire will have to be fought with fire. This is a path that the SNP will take us down if they gain power again. I’m convinced of that.
 

savus

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Thanks bluenose 94 , any private personal info I have will be p.m,d to you guys.On the subject matter of the Catholic Church in scotland and its close and personal relationship with “ the club like no other “ I try not to get angry or feel too much despair as I hope judgement day is coming . We will see . I find solace in watching re runs on you tube of Christopher Hitchens . He was an academic , writer , atheist journalist who committed his whole life to outing the fallacies of religion. I cant quote him verbatim but I am sure in one of his talks he talks about hitler in the 1930’s forging an alliance with the Roman Catholic nationalist party. Sound familiar !!!!!! . He also states if you take any fascist book or statement and change the word “ Fascist “ to “ Conservative Roman Catholic “ nothing changes. He was a far more knowledgeable and intelligent man than I will ever be so I trust his judgment implicitly. Underpinning all of this is my desire to see a full and unequivocal sorry to all the victims of the terrible abuse suffered and to compensate in an appropriate manner.
Slightly off main topic but relevant to Hitchens.
He once said that of all Hitlers henchmen who were RC the only one to be excommunicated was Gorbells .
He was to burn in hell because he married a Protestant.
 

Haining84

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Thanks bluenose 94 , any private personal info I have will be p.m,d to you guys.On the subject matter of the Catholic Church in scotland and its close and personal relationship with “ the club like no other “ I try not to get angry or feel too much despair as I hope judgement day is coming . We will see . I find solace in watching re runs on you tube of Christopher Hitchens . He was an academic , writer , atheist journalist who committed his whole life to outing the fallacies of religion. I cant quote him verbatim but I am sure in one of his talks he talks about hitler in the 1930’s forging an alliance with the Roman Catholic nationalist party. Sound familiar !!!!!! . He also states if you take any fascist book or statement and change the word “ Fascist “ to “ Conservative Roman Catholic “ nothing changes. He was a far more knowledgeable and intelligent man than I will ever be so I trust his judgment implicitly. Underpinning all of this is my desire to see a full and unequivocal sorry to all the victims of the terrible abuse suffered and to compensate in an appropriate manner.
Hitchens is brilliant.Ive spent hours on YouTube watching his debates/talks.
 
I hope the first test case in the coming weeks will be pivotal in the momentum required to demand a full public independent enquiry into the abhorrent CSA at separate entity f.c. I have a niggling suspicion that the lawyers representing this vile club may try to pull a rabbit out the hat . When you cut off the head of a snake sometimes it can still bite you. I hope with all my being that Karma prevails.
 

ibroxcats

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Thanks bluenose 94 , any private personal info I have will be p.m,d to you guys.On the subject matter of the Catholic Church in scotland and its close and personal relationship with “ the club like no other “ I try not to get angry or feel too much despair as I hope judgement day is coming . We will see . I find solace in watching re runs on you tube of Christopher Hitchens . He was an academic , writer , atheist journalist who committed his whole life to outing the fallacies of religion. I cant quote him verbatim but I am sure in one of his talks he talks about hitler in the 1930’s forging an alliance with the Roman Catholic nationalist party. Sound familiar !!!!!! . He also states if you take any fascist book or statement and change the word “ Fascist “ to “ Conservative Roman Catholic “ nothing changes. He was a far more knowledgeable and intelligent man than I will ever be so I trust his judgment implicitly. Underpinning all of this is my desire to see a full and unequivocal sorry to all the victims of the terrible abuse suffered and to compensate in an appropriate manner.
That was about the concordat signed between the nazis and the vatican in 1936 I think, which gave the christian democrats control over education in Germany in exchange for not running politically against Hitler.
 

wontoofree

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My missus is watching a documentary about a treatment for cancer a doctor in America and the Drug companies fight to stop him and all the dirty tricks employed them mis info, deflection, denials PR companies you begin to see companies Like Hollicom getting hired and the dirt the fling out
if you cant be bothered start watching from 1,26,36 onwards its on for 1hr 50 mins
Absolutely astonishing film. Several illnesses/ diseases through the ages have been cured by alleged 'quacks' or by accident [smallpox, antibiotics etc], but this is incredible.

Well worth a watch. Thanks for posting.
 

KYBear_74

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For us bears who now live down south they are a disgrace. They dress in their tartan and make daily racist remarks against the English. Some English are let’s say small minded and class us all the same as this rabble.

Since this lot got into power I’ve found myself frequently having to educate people down here that we’re not all like this. They are a complete embarrassment. Every bear has to come out in Scotland and vote tactically to get this lot out.

They have let the IRA back onto our streets and openly share the same views as Sinn Fein. They have let down people in our society for the sake of votes.

We must come out and vote. This next election will be one of the most important elections in years imo. The fear I have if they stay in power is that fire will have to be fought with fire. This is a path that the SNP will take us down if they gain power again. I’m convinced of that.
When are the next elections BN? I'm not too familiar with the electoral process in the UK and probably should start learning if I'm emigrating back!
 

SGbanwa

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I just finished watching a documentary on Amazon Prime called, Dark Secret. It’s about child abuse and the cover up of it in the Catholic Church in Philadelphia over decades. Some of the similarities between what went on there and what’s went on at Celtic is remarkable. They’re reluctance to cooperate, avoiding responsibility, the good name of the church came before the victims, the prosecutors called anti-catholic and the cardinal who you could compare to Lawells position telling his clergy not to read and ignore the grand jury report. Another good documentary for anybody interested in watching it.
I tried finding it there but no joy surely not off already?

Edit: found it
 

No let up

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Hope this quick copy and paste is ok.


Jim McCafferty sentence: Legal action over child abuse is imminent, Celtic warned
Marc Horne
May 16 2019, 12:01am, The Times
Celtic has expressed sympathy for the victims but insisted that the boys club is a separate organisationTIMES PHOTOGRAPHER JAMES GLOSSOP
Celtic FC will face a multimillion pound compensation claim “within months” unless it accepts responsibility for the paedophiles who preyed on young players, a senior lawyer has said.
The warning from Patrick McGuire, who has represented some of the victims, comes after Jim McCafferty, 73, a former club kitman and Celtic Boys Club coach, was jailed for six years and nine months after admitting that he had molested boys over 24 years.
Jim McCaffertyPOLICE SCOTLAND
The jail sentence is the third to be handed down to former Celtic Boys Club staff after Jim Torbett, 71, its founder, and Frank Cairney, 83, a coach, were imprisoned for sexually assaulting youngsters.
Gerard Kind, 66, the former chairman of the boys’ club, was convicted of abusing four boys and a girl

When Rangers we’re going through the financial trouble, all of these punters were tax experts and tore into Rangers. The silence over this paedophile ring st Celtic is disgusting and politically motivated.

Between 6:30 and 7:30 pm , sportsound is on bbc radio Scotland. I urge Rangers fans to deluge the show with texts 80295 . I sent 30 in one night last week. It had to be done. In addition, radio Clyde have refused to discuss it because the controller of the station is married to the owner of Hollicom , a Glasgow based PR company hired by Celtic to pull the wool over peoples eyes. Phone the phone in, pretend to talk about something totally unrelated and if you’re on air bring up The paedophile cover up .
 

bazil

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I heard this word last night watching a doc for the first time and straight away i thought of Holicom, has any one else, any how here it is
astroturfing
/ˈastrəʊtəːfɪŋ/
noun

  1. the deceptive practice of presenting an orchestrated marketing or public relations campaign in the guise of unsolicited comments from members of the public.
  2. Absolutely astonishing film. Several illnesses/ diseases through the ages have been cured by alleged 'quacks' or by accident [smallpox, antibiotics etc], but this is incredible.

    Well worth a watch. Thanks for posting.
    It makes sense when you apply Holicom to Astroturfing
 

Timskelper

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Reply from L.S.E. regarding if celtc have broken rules, reply not relevant to the questions i put to them,have sent another email indicating that i am unhappy at their response, surely they're not being protected by them too? or are they?




‎9‎ ‎Sep at ‎16‎:‎01


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That's garbage mate. Nothing to do with the question you put to them.

Hopefully in your reply you won't get an idiot next time. Well done on chasing them up!
 

Tommy

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Reply from hacking & paterson

Dear Mr



We refer to your email of 9 September 2019.



Unfortunately we are unable to trace your account details and would be grateful if you could confirm if you are a client of Hacking and Paterson Management Services and provide your address or account number.



We look forward to hearing from you.



Kind Regards

Hacking and Paterson Management Services
1 Newton Terrace – Glasgow – G3 7PL
 

IndonesiaBlue

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Reply from hacking & paterson

Dear Mr



We refer to your email of 9 September 2019.



Unfortunately we are unable to trace your account details and would be grateful if you could confirm if you are a client of Hacking and Paterson Management Services and provide your address or account number.



We look forward to hearing from you.



Kind Regards

Hacking and Paterson Management Services
1 Newton Terrace – Glasgow – G3 7PL
Wouldn’t it be a shame if we were to distribute a damning letter into the post boxes of residents in some of their factored blocks. I’ll start on Thursday identifying those places in Edinburgh where the residents should be told where their hard earned factor fees are going and the type of person this Company sees fit to have in their boardroom.
 

Tommy

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And my response to them

Dear Mr annonymous,

Further to my email to you on 9th september and your subsequent reply today,i think your response would indicate,you have missed the point of my email to you.

The point i made was,how does it feel,to have a chairman ( NEIL WATT) in charge of your company,who has knowingly aided and.abetted a known and convicted paedophile FRANK CAIRNEY by transfering cairneys assets (his house) to himself and then offering to let him stay there rent free upon jail release (which personally hope never happens) .

Having a chairman,who is seen to allegedly support and protect a known and convicted paedophile must bring shame and bad publicity to your company,but then bad publicity ,is good publicity in some peoples eyes,but believe me,when more revelations on the paedophilia and sex abuse at glasgow celtic fc are revealed in the press and courts,everyone is going to be named and shamed and all people and companies will be forever tarred by the brush of paedophilia and sexual abuse.
Will your brand survive?...only time will tell but anyone who supports or is seen to support paedophilia does not deserve to.

Your chairman must have no concience and difficulty sleeping at nights,there is even photographic evidence of him ,in a glashow celtic boys club photo,eith teo convicted paedophiles FRANK CAIRNEY & JIM TORBETT,you chairman has not only let himself down,but also his companys employees and most importantly,his boys club team mates...an utter judas,who should hang his head in shame.

P.s i am not a client of yours and do not have an account with you and would never associate myself with paedophile supporters.


Kind regards
 

Dorrans

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Dear Hacking and Paterson,

Are you seriously suggesting that you are content for your senior management to associate with convicted paedophiles unless and until you receive a complaint from a client? Are you happy to turn a blind eye to the morally repugnant unless it has a direct link to your profits.

I await your response with interest As I am considering forwarding to relevant media outlets.

Yours Sincerely
 
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George Goudie

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Thanks bluenose 94 , any private personal info I have will be p.m,d to you guys.On the subject matter of the Catholic Church in scotland and its close and personal relationship with “ the club like no other “ I try not to get angry or feel too much despair as I hope judgement day is coming . We will see . I find solace in watching re runs on you tube of Christopher Hitchens . He was an academic , writer , atheist journalist who committed his whole life to outing the fallacies of religion. I cant quote him verbatim but I am sure in one of his talks he talks about hitler in the 1930’s forging an alliance with the Roman Catholic nationalist party. Sound familiar !!!!!! . He also states if you take any fascist book or statement and change the word “ Fascist “ to “ Conservative Roman Catholic “ nothing changes. He was a far more knowledgeable and intelligent man than I will ever be so I trust his judgment implicitly. Underpinning all of this is my desire to see a full and unequivocal sorry to all the victims of the terrible abuse suffered and to compensate in an appropriate manner.
What a terrible loss to humanity his passing was.

I loved his diatribes and am obsessed with his YT videos.
 
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KYBear_74

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What a terrible lots to humanity his passing was.

I loved his diatribes and am obsessed with his YT videos.
I've been watching them tonight. Love the highlight ones that is in parts.

You can see all the religious zealots just squirming because he takes no prisoners at all! Pulls no punches.

Even purchased his book Portable Atheist on Audible. Dude isn't smart at all is he?
 

ionasdad

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Wouldn’t it be a shame if we were to distribute a damning letter into the post boxes of residents in some of their factored blocks. I’ll start on Thursday identifying those places in Edinburgh where the residents should be told where their hard earned factor fees are going and the type of person this Company sees fit to have in their boardroom.
Yes they were our factor when we lived in regents park thornnliebank
 
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