Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

Lenzie Loyal

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bumped into a few guys i know when out and about last night out. They were at a charity event last night in ( the social) royal exchange square.
The guest speakers were Tam Cowan, Smudger, Frank mcgarvey, and some other ref. Apparently mcgarvey went up and didn’t do any funny stuff and just spoke about his life and went on to tell a big audience that he was abused in the showers by torbett. The guy told me everyone was mortified and the place just went quiet and tam Cowan got up and said some kind of joke to lighten the atmosphere. Just wondering if anyone was there and would like to verify this.
Can anyone verify this?

McGarvey would be the most high-profile player ever to admit being abused at Celtic.
 
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Timskelper

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Like everyone else on this forum I am just sharing conversions with like minded bears . The fact there are intelligent tarriers out there just shows what we are up against when they make their comments to me. I want to know what they are thinking. I want to know What they think of us. Then I can come into forums like this and share. I don’t socialise with them so work is the only place to communicate. I believe knowledge is power and the more of it the better. Of course they read our forums . There are lhurkers everywhere. Of course they know there are people working behind the scenes . I have never been near any of their forums but I could imagine that they have people working behind the scenes to kill us off again. Why is tonites news about our club such a surprise. It’s dog eat dog . I came onto this forum because I was sexually abused twice as a thirteen year old . Anyone on this forum who has also suffered knows what it is like to lose your innocence and have your power taken away from you. If something catches your eye in a suspicious way bluenose 94 then you can ask me to log out and never post again. One thing will never change for me you don’t choose to be a Rangers fan = YOU ARE BORN ONE.
If you truly are who you portray yourself to be, then you have my sympathy and understanding, but your previous posts are casting doubt over you and I don't think I'm alone in thinking that.

Rangers being advised to not say anything - Reads as fact, but doubt it is.

"kill us off again" as in the post above - When did they do that? Was it when we died as the club we know and love and became that new club, Sevco FC? They had their grubby little paws all over getting us put down the divisions, but they didn't kill us off. That will NEVER happen as long as we have the loyal supporters who broke all sorts of records in our way up through the divisions. It's made us stronger. The best fans in the World.

Then, you're not long in the door and you're insulting a fellow bear.

As I said, you may be who you are, or you may not. I'll leave it at that.
 

billyboy1872

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We should absolutely do the right thing if there are any victims who were harmed by people in our employ.

You can see the press doing their best to make this a level issue across all clubs.

I've said for years that, while the level of the abuse at Celtic is clearly off the charts, it's the cover up which is the big story as they go specifically.

It's two separate issues. They should he compensating victims for the abuse as should all clubs.

They should he hammered separately for actively covering the abuse up and face sporting and financial sanctions on that basis. It won't happen though.
If as u say they wont face any sporting sanctions if found guilty of the cover ups then no team should play them |||||
 

Timskelper

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Exactly, that mob are desperately trying to drag us into it, Rangers should be doing feck all just now. Don't know why posters are saying we should be doing the right thing etc, the right thing for what?
You're right. We're liable for nothing at this time. Nothing has been proven.

IF it is proven that we are responsible in some way, THEN we should deal with the aftermath as quickly and as sensitively as we can, fulfilling all of our responsibilities.
 

Timskelper

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I might be completely wrong (and biased) but I've always felt that if one child rapist, never mind 6, was convicted of being guilty of child rape at Rangers, or Rangers directors past and present were being accused of a complicit cover-up and facilitation of child rape, it would be front page news on most media outlets (including the government's own news channel).

Recent headlines from the BBC like "Celtic agree to compensate ex-footballer" haven't changed my opinion. Celtic haven't agreed to anything. They were taken to court by one individual (hopefully soon to be a lot more) kicking and screaming, and lost. They have told family members of dead ex-employees who were raped as children that they never even played for the club. They have claimed there have never been any accusations of child rape at all. They have claimed the boys club was a seperate entity. They have then claimed that there have been enquiries (into a seperate entity), and the allegations were scullirious. They have made large payments to a convicted paedophile who directors have claimed never to have ever had dealings with, contrary to open records at company house.

This is going to be the biggest sporting scandal of all time in my opinion. Since it started to break in major news outlets this year I don't think there's many on here surprised that part of Celtic's strategy might be to try and paint this as a problem of Scottish Football in general (including employing a PR firm to facilitate this). Once again I should add this may be my biased opinion.

One thing I'm sure of though it is vitally important that we have an independent inquiry.

I genuinely don't know if children aren't being raped at Celtic now. I also don't know who to raise this issue with (apart from everyone). The British Government say it's a Scottish Government issue. The Scottish Government has said nothing about it, apart from excluding it from it's historical child abuse enquiries (and has also said nothing about a serving MSP admitting being fully aware child rape was going on, and said nothing about a serving MSP equating child rape to a tax payment scheme ). The Scottish Police are having Child Protection Summits in the same building where children were abused and 7 members of staff of an inextricably linked organisation have been convicted for paedophile offences. If I send a complaint in to the SFA or UEFA my letter may land on the desk of the financial controller at the time a 1 million+ payment was made to one of the convicted paedophiles. Most of the Scottish media don't seem to be interested wheras I personally can't see how this can't be front page news. I genuinely do not know if child rape is still going on at Celtic Park.

I honestly think (biased again) that nothing like that happened at Rangers. If it did we would surely know about it. If it did though, I would hope we would lead the way in compensating as much as possible anyone who had experienced such a crime. I hope most of us on here would think the same which is a big difference between them and everyone else.

I'm really not surprised to see an article like this but I hope it can strengthen the call for a full and independent enquiry led by someone outside Scotland and also if possible the UK.

Tick tock
You're right mate, I also think this will be the biggest sporting scandal of all time as well. Penn State was shocking, but this will blow everything else out of the water. It's quite incredible who's involved in this and I'm sure there will be a lot more well known people named in this too. That's a certainty.

Great post, but one thing stuck out for me if you don't mind me mentioning it. I'd substitute the word raped for abused. I think it gives it more clarity.

Again, I agree. If this was happening at Rangers, it would be wall to wall coverage, all over the media. Radio Celtic would also be discussing it with Shug being as vocal as he could.

Let's just hope this really starts to 'grow arms and legs' in the coming months and that it brings peace to all who have suffered through it.

WATP
 

Timskelper

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How do you know there are quite a few at large . Do you have info you are not sharing with everyone . You are one for watching and I have never posted this comment before on this forum . Mmmmmmmmm
Still trying to catch up and now you're having a pop at LL. Jeez!

I always enjoy LL's posts as I'm sure quite a few fellow Bears do too. Yours on the other hand are all over the place. Never posted that comment before? You're only in the forum 5 minutes.

You're definitely one for watching.

No doubt you'll be at the forefront of yet another strange post as I read through them.
 

O.K. Bear

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Still trying to catch up and now you're having a pop at LL. Jeez!

I always enjoy LL's posts as I'm sure quite a few fellow Bears do too. Yours on the other hand are all over the place. Never posted that comment before? You're only in the forum 5 minutes.

You're definitely one for watching.

No doubt you'll be at the forefront of yet another strange post as I read through them.
I doubt he will be posting again under that username!
 

bazil

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Said this before on this subject . A large chunk of the fans of the club like no other either try to deflect , deny or go on the offensive. A lot of older fans of peado fc are desperate to win 10 in a row as they know it will never happen again in their lifetime. They are literally prepared to turn a blind eye to 50 years of horror at the chamber of secrets for the moment and take their punishment in two years time . As one said to me at work the other day “ we don’t care what happens. At least we will have won 10 in a row.”. Some of them hate the timing of all the amazing work going on by people behind the scenes. The convictions are also an inconvenience as per timing. I have acquaintances who are intelligent informed people and unfortunately support scum f.c. . They have made it quite clear to me that when the club like no other win 10 in row the money made from the sales of 10 in row d.v.d ,s should be given to the victims. Cos that will make everything o.k.
Ask them if they would like to sign a petition calling for the GOVERNMENT to conduct an independent enquiry.
 

Hateleysheid

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Gordy411

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Can anyone verify this?

McGarvey would be the most high-profile player ever to admit being abused at Celtic.
Or it could mean he was a CFC player at the time , or it may be he has a peculiar mindset or it could be a dribble story ... we don’t know
guy that told me last night is a Celtic fan. He said he couldn’t believe what he was hearing. I didn’t want to delve in too deeply and ask more questions but I thought there must be some out there that were at the event to verify it? Don’t do twitter but maybe someone could tam Cowan if he’s on it.
 

bazil

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Exactly my point. Also paints a certain other team even more into the corner.
Thats my feelings on it as well, we have nothing to hide,they have nothing to find other than what they already have and it was a certainty that Hollicom will attempt to exagerrate the smallest of things, on saying that, the work and effort put in by the bears has been outs standing, and i believe it should carry on, the attempt at smearing other Clubs, attacking Liverpool either not a good move,there will be more sticks and stones flung at us, our reply always should be, public enquiry, but for me and a lot of others , the scum just dont get it it genuinely has gone beyond point scoring that was the nineties, this is about a genuine, Rage, anger, sadness humility, empathy broken lives, bravery, courage, disgust,degredation evil,i could go on, for the Lurkers, till my dying breath i will never cease to expose the HOUSE OF SODOMY that is CELTIC and i believe that most of the Guys on here feel the same you just dont fluking get it, you have set another record, the most paedos at one club youre Clubs real historys reads like a Marquis de sade book,

Nothing and no one is going to Detract from exposing the TRUTH
keep going lads they are Obviously clutching at straws and hurting,and what papers would you seek the Truth,The Times, or The sun,
 

Grigo Yossarian

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Thats my feelings on it as well, we have nothing to hide,they have nothing to find other than what they already have and it was a certainty that Hollicom will attempt to exagerrate the smallest of things, on saying that, the work and effort put in by the bears has been outs standing, and i believe it should carry on, the attempt at smearing other Clubs, attacking Liverpool either not a good move,there will be more sticks and stones flung at us, our reply always should be, public enquiry, but for me and a lot of others , the scum just dont get it it genuinely has gone beyond point scoring that was the nineties, this is about a genuine, Rage, anger, sadness humility, empathy broken lives, bravery, courage, disgust,degredation evil,i could go on, for the Lurkers, till my dying breath i will never cease to expose the HOUSE OF SODOMY that is CELTIC and i believe that most of the Guys on here feel the same you just dont fluking get it, you have set another record, the most paedos at one club youre Clubs real historys reads like a Marquis de sade book,

Nothing and no one is going to Detract from exposing the TRUTH
keep going lads they are Obviously clutching at straws and hurting,and what papers would you seek the Truth,The Times, or The sun,
Well said Brazil.

As THEY say ‘and if you know the history’ ?

WE DO. WE REALLY DO :D
 

bazil

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Thats my feelings on it as well, we have nothing to hide,they have nothing to find other than what they already have and it was a certainty that Hollicom will attempt to exagerrate the smallest of things, on saying that, the work and effort put in by the bears has been outs standing, and i believe it should carry on, the attempt at smearing other Clubs, attacking Liverpool either not a good move,there will be more sticks and stones flung at us, our reply always should be, public enquiry, but for me and a lot of others , the scum just dont get it it genuinely has gone beyond point scoring that was the nineties, this is about a genuine, Rage, anger, sadness humility, empathy broken lives, bravery, courage, disgust,degredation evil,i could go on, for the Lurkers, till my dying breath i will never cease to expose the HOUSE OF SODOMY that is CELTIC and i believe that most of the Guys on here feel the same you just dont fluking get it, you have set another record, the most paedos at one club youre Clubs real historys reads like a Marquis de sade book,

Nothing and no one is going to Detract from exposing the TRUTH
keep going lads they are Obviously clutching at straws and hurting,and what papers would you seek the Truth,The Times, or The sun,
 

bazil

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Well said Brazil.

As THEY say ‘and if you know the history’ ?

WE DO. WE REALLY DO
Cheers it is always good to get a wee pat on the back from experienced members, there are lots of people you meet in life who are intelligent but dont have the confidence to use such mediums as this, i am not putting myself in that bracket, but i will continue along with the bears to highlight the injustices and corruption and encourage others, the praise and thanks should belong to those at the buisiness end doing the hardwork for they have given voice to to the Victims and for sickened and disgusted people, who want to help, but are unsure how to do it,you have given us a platform and answers on how to help achieve this,
 

Tommy

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Sent to marcello mega today.

Dear marcello,

Following my previous email to you on 29th august,which i have copied below for you,i am utterly astounded at your article in todays paper.
You go out of your way to mention neely and dunn,along with side mentions of hibs,rangers and dundee utd,but absolutely no mention of your own club,GLASGOW CELTIC,who are the worlds biggest sporting scandal,have had 7 criminal convictions and hundreds of victims,lining up to sue them for compensation in courts...why have you ignored reporting on your team mr mega?.
As my previous to you provided some questions that i wanted answering,have you made any efforts to ask them and report the findings?...or are you refusing to report on the real sex abuse svandal,that has tainted and embarrassed our game,in fact almost as embarrassing as your clear ,one sided agenda.
How about you do your job as an investigative journalist and start reporting the real truth behind glasgow celtics 40 year sexual abuse crimes and the cover ups that have went on to prevent the public from knowing,a cover up,which your reporting would suggest,you support.

I look forward to your reply with the real facts you charlatan.


Regards


Tommy



I am writing to you in relation to your recent article in which you slate Glasgow rangers for their association with Gordon Neely and your lack of investigative journalism into the real sexual abuse scandal ,which has occurred within your club for the last 40- 50 years ,with 6 criminal convictions so far and counting,with hundreds of victims seeking apologies and compensation...report the real truth and facts for once.
Having read recent articles from yourselves regarding the outrageous,historic sex abuse that went on within Glasgow celtic fc for the past 40 -50 years , I note that you are again,trying to pervert the course of true journalism,by deflecting attention away from the crime scene,that is celtic park and the secrets and cover ups that have gone on there over the past decades,is this your own choosing ,due to the club you support?,or is at the request of a recently employed pr company called hollicom? ,or indeed,is it perhaps on the instruction of a certain chairman associated with a well known east end of Glasgow football club ,known and proven for its enabling,facilitation and harbouring of paedophiles within its employ with the club and its associated clubs?....which is it?.
Again,I highlight the fact of the lack of investigative journalism from you into the actual abuse,that has occurred within celtic park over the past 40 – 50 years ,with various criminal convictions as a result and its decades of cover ups and NDA’s ( some of which I am reliably informed are being offered to victims as I type.
This is typical behaviour of this club ,trying to alienate itself from its crimes and then trying to buy victims silence by way of an NDA ,absolutely disgusting behaviour.
You stated in your article relations to child abuse with a coach called Gordon neely,who was briefly employed with rangers,let’s put facts to your article , ,facts,which you would’ve been able to find out for yourself,if you could be bothered to actually be a journalist and earn your money.
Gordon neely was employed by Hibernian fc ,when he committed child abuse crimes,crimes which were then covered up by then hibs chairman Kenny Waugh,to protect the clubs name ( ring any bells?.... jock stein & jim torbett?) ,Gordon neely then went on to be employed by rangers as a coach,who at that time ,were unaware of neelys past,as it had been conveniently covered up by hibs and therefore ,rangers had no knowledge of his past crimes.
As soon as neely made a verbal comment to a youngster,he was swiftly removed from post and reported to the police authorities ( guilty of verbal abuse with a sexual content...BUT NOT CHILD SEX ABUSE ,as reported by you lazy charlatans ).
The actions taken by rangers were and are to be commended,they DID THE RIGHT THING BY REPORTING IT TO POLICE, unlike the directors ,managers and staff of celtic fc,who decided to keep it secret and in house ,to protect their good name,thus cover up after cover up ensued,cover ups which have now been admitted by ex chairman jack mc ginn ( do you have any photographs of mr mc ginns recent injuries?,none seem to be published in any of your papers....if indeed there were any).

So,please feel free to answer the following:

1.why you have tried to tar Glasgow rangers with the same brush as celtic and its historic sexual abuse?
2.why have you not investigated the historic child sex abuse at celtic fc in more depth and published the truth?
3.why haven’t you investigated the cover ups and NDA’s which were allegedly signed to buy silence?
4.why did celtic not report it to the police?
5.why did celtic pervert the course of justice by failing to report a crime against minors?.
6. is there a connection between the uks worst paedophile jimmy Saville and celtic? ( openly photographed at celtic park with father o donnell and jock stein ...yet Saville was never photographed at any other Scottish ground).
7. why did celtic fc make four payments of £250,000 to convicted paedophile jim torbetts trophy centre company over a period of 12 months?...was it to buy his silence?.
8. why did kevin Kelly deny having any business links to torbetts trophy centre company and others,when he is listed as co -owner of at least 3 companies with torbett?.
9.have you questioned or pursued kevin Kelly,jack mc ginn or peter lawwell for their statements on what really went on within that club and why they employed paedophiles and then re-employed them?
10 is there more to this historic child sexual abuse than we know?,is it covering up something more sinister ?,something reaching far higher in society than just celtic fc?.
11.have you questioned the sfa on their role and knowledge of this historic sexual abuse,given that celtic fcs board members have been members of the sfas board?
12. have you questioned the sfa/spfl on what sanctions/punishment they plan to dish out on celtic fc for their crimes against humanity and bring the country and football into grave dis-repute? ( this also applies to UEFA and fifa ,if you can be bothered).
13. have you questioned Gerry mc sherry,who handed a list of 14 paedophiles allegedly working within celtic fc ( 7 of whom have been convicted) or indeed police Scotland,as to what they did with the list and what actions they have taken.
14.why has the majority of mainstream journalists like yourself and football show pundits such as hugh keevins,yourself again,mark guidi (who i'm led to believe is related to one of the convicted paedophiles),michael stewart,willie miller,tom english,pat bonner to name but a few,refused to discuss this matter on open football phone ibs,yet set out to destroy rangers over ebts (legal at the time)?...WHY?
15.HAVE YOU DEMANDED OR BACKED DEMANDS FOR A FULL PUBLIC AND INDEPENDENT INQUIRY INTO THIS CLUBS HISTORIC SEXUAL ABUSE? AND IF NOT...WHY NOT?

So,instead of trying to smear other clubs with celtic fcs sexual abuse,leave them to be a club like no other and get on with doing the jobs you portray to be employed as....investigative journalists and lets see the truth published.

I await your response to the points raised.


Regards
 

Kbhblue

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You're right mate, I also think this will be the biggest sporting scandal of all time as well. Penn State was shocking, but this will blow everything else out of the water. It's quite incredible who's involved in this and I'm sure there will be a lot more well known people named in this too. That's a certainty.

Great post, but one thing stuck out for me if you don't mind me mentioning it. I'd substitute the word raped for abused. I think it gives it more clarity.

Again, I agree. If this was happening at Rangers, it would be wall to wall coverage, all over the media. Radio Celtic would also be discussing it with Shug being as vocal as he could.

Let's just hope this really starts to 'grow arms and legs' in the coming months and that it brings peace to all who have suffered through it.

WATP
Thanks for the feedback and of course I don't mind you mentioning it. I disagree though that the word abuse gives it more clarity... I use the word rape to give it more clarity. "The abuse of young players" is the type of statement I can read in Celtic's non-apology, or in a BBC or Evening Times article.

I'm not talking about the abuse of young footballers. I'm talking about children being raped.
 

Grigo Yossarian

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Cheers it is always good to get a wee pat on the back from experienced members, there are lots of people you meet in life who are intelligent but dont have the confidence to use such mediums as this, i am not putting myself in that bracket, but i will continue along with the bears to highlight the injustices and corruption and encourage others, the praise and thanks should belong to those at the buisiness end doing the hardwork for they have given voice to to the Victims and for sickened and disgusted people, who want to help, but are unsure how to do it,you have given us a platform and answers on how to help achieve this,
We’re all in there as a team Bazil. I said before but there are at least 40-50 of us all helping each other for justice Baz.

Every one of us can make a difference mate. Keep it up ;)
 
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Lainey Love

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Still trying to catch up and now you're having a pop at LL. Jeez!

I always enjoy LL's posts as I'm sure quite a few fellow Bears do too. Yours on the other hand are all over the place. Never posted that comment before? You're only in the forum 5 minutes.

You're definitely one for watching.

No doubt you'll be at the forefront of yet another strange post as I read through them.
LL! I’m getting paranoid now
 

bazil

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Thanks for the feedback and of course I don't mind you mentioning it. I disagree though that the word abuse gives it more clarity... I use the word rape to give it more clarity. "The abuse of young players" is the type of statement I can read in Celtic's non-apology, or in a BBC or Evening Times article.

I'm not talking about the abuse of young footballers. I'm talking about children being raped.
That gets on my wick as well, BBC were and still are the worst,
 

jweebear

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I agree with the poster Ayebrox, what have Rangers to fear. If this did happened then we need ask for a wider full and frank independent inquiry, as to how Hivs passed Rangers a Paedophile, how many children were abused at Rangers, Hivs, Dundee and Celtic. Also were there any cover ups at these clubs, how many Paedophiles were involved and ultimately what can be done for the victims. We shouldn't be running from this, meet it head on. Show up those clubs that are in hiding and denial.
 

jacobite

Active Member
Sent to marcello mega today.

Dear marcello,

Following my previous email to you on 29th august,which i have copied below for you,i am utterly astounded at your article in todays paper.
You go out of your way to mention neely and dunn,along with side mentions of hibs,rangers and dundee utd,but absolutely no mention of your own club,GLASGOW CELTIC,who are the worlds biggest sporting scandal,have had 7 criminal convictions and hundreds of victims,lining up to sue them for compensation in courts...why have you ignored reporting on your team mr mega?.
As my previous to you provided some questions that i wanted answering,have you made any efforts to ask them and report the findings?...or are you refusing to report on the real sex abuse svandal,that has tainted and embarrassed our game,in fact almost as embarrassing as your clear ,one sided agenda.
How about you do your job as an investigative journalist and start reporting the real truth behind glasgow celtics 40 year sexual abuse crimes and the cover ups that have went on to prevent the public from knowing,a cover up,which your reporting would suggest,you support.

I look forward to your reply with the real facts you charlatan.


Regards


Tommy



I am writing to you in relation to your recent article in which you slate Glasgow rangers for their association with Gordon Neely and your lack of investigative journalism into the real sexual abuse scandal ,which has occurred within your club for the last 40- 50 years ,with 6 criminal convictions so far and counting,with hundreds of victims seeking apologies and compensation...report the real truth and facts for once.
Having read recent articles from yourselves regarding the outrageous,historic sex abuse that went on within Glasgow celtic fc for the past 40 -50 years , I note that you are again,trying to pervert the course of true journalism,by deflecting attention away from the crime scene,that is celtic park and the secrets and cover ups that have gone on there over the past decades,is this your own choosing ,due to the club you support?,or is at the request of a recently employed pr company called hollicom? ,or indeed,is it perhaps on the instruction of a certain chairman associated with a well known east end of Glasgow football club ,known and proven for its enabling,facilitation and harbouring of paedophiles within its employ with the club and its associated clubs?....which is it?.
Again,I highlight the fact of the lack of investigative journalism from you into the actual abuse,that has occurred within celtic park over the past 40 – 50 years ,with various criminal convictions as a result and its decades of cover ups and NDA’s ( some of which I am reliably informed are being offered to victims as I type.
This is typical behaviour of this club ,trying to alienate itself from its crimes and then trying to buy victims silence by way of an NDA ,absolutely disgusting behaviour.
You stated in your article relations to child abuse with a coach called Gordon neely,who was briefly employed with rangers,let’s put facts to your article , ,facts,which you would’ve been able to find out for yourself,if you could be bothered to actually be a journalist and earn your money.
Gordon neely was employed by Hibernian fc ,when he committed child abuse crimes,crimes which were then covered up by then hibs chairman Kenny Waugh,to protect the clubs name ( ring any bells?.... jock stein & jim torbett?) ,Gordon neely then went on to be employed by rangers as a coach,who at that time ,were unaware of neelys past,as it had been conveniently covered up by hibs and therefore ,rangers had no knowledge of his past crimes.
As soon as neely made a verbal comment to a youngster,he was swiftly removed from post and reported to the police authorities ( guilty of verbal abuse with a sexual content...BUT NOT CHILD SEX ABUSE ,as reported by you lazy charlatans ).
The actions taken by rangers were and are to be commended,they DID THE RIGHT THING BY REPORTING IT TO POLICE, unlike the directors ,managers and staff of celtic fc,who decided to keep it secret and in house ,to protect their good name,thus cover up after cover up ensued,cover ups which have now been admitted by ex chairman jack mc ginn ( do you have any photographs of mr mc ginns recent injuries?,none seem to be published in any of your papers....if indeed there were any).

So,please feel free to answer the following:

1.why you have tried to tar Glasgow rangers with the same brush as celtic and its historic sexual abuse?
2.why have you not investigated the historic child sex abuse at celtic fc in more depth and published the truth?
3.why haven’t you investigated the cover ups and NDA’s which were allegedly signed to buy silence?
4.why did celtic not report it to the police?
5.why did celtic pervert the course of justice by failing to report a crime against minors?.
6. is there a connection between the uks worst paedophile jimmy Saville and celtic? ( openly photographed at celtic park with father o donnell and jock stein ...yet Saville was never photographed at any other Scottish ground).
7. why did celtic fc make four payments of £250,000 to convicted paedophile jim torbetts trophy centre company over a period of 12 months?...was it to buy his silence?.
8. why did kevin Kelly deny having any business links to torbetts trophy centre company and others,when he is listed as co -owner of at least 3 companies with torbett?.
9.have you questioned or pursued kevin Kelly,jack mc ginn or peter lawwell for their statements on what really went on within that club and why they employed paedophiles and then re-employed them?
10 is there more to this historic child sexual abuse than we know?,is it covering up something more sinister ?,something reaching far higher in society than just celtic fc?.
11.have you questioned the sfa on their role and knowledge of this historic sexual abuse,given that celtic fcs board members have been members of the sfas board?
12. have you questioned the sfa/spfl on what sanctions/punishment they plan to dish out on celtic fc for their crimes against humanity and bring the country and football into grave dis-repute? ( this also applies to UEFA and fifa ,if you can be bothered).
13. have you questioned Gerry mc sherry,who handed a list of 14 paedophiles allegedly working within celtic fc ( 7 of whom have been convicted) or indeed police Scotland,as to what they did with the list and what actions they have taken.
14.why has the majority of mainstream journalists like yourself and football show pundits such as hugh keevins,yourself again,mark guidi (who i'm led to believe is related to one of the convicted paedophiles),michael stewart,willie miller,tom english,pat bonner to name but a few,refused to discuss this matter on open football phone ibs,yet set out to destroy rangers over ebts (legal at the time)?...WHY?
15.HAVE YOU DEMANDED OR BACKED DEMANDS FOR A FULL PUBLIC AND INDEPENDENT INQUIRY INTO THIS CLUBS HISTORIC SEXUAL ABUSE? AND IF NOT...WHY NOT?

So,instead of trying to smear other clubs with celtic fcs sexual abuse,leave them to be a club like no other and get on with doing the jobs you portray to be employed as....investigative journalists and lets see the truth published.

I await your response to the points raised.


Regards
I always have a huge smile on my face when reading these posts from Tommy.
 
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