Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

We also believe it will be a whitewash. If you remember in the Thompson pieces Henry stated something along the lines of “well Celtic have took action to eradicate this”. No they haven’t. They have been found out then used their friends in high places in an attempt to make them look good. One example being having an NSPCC seminar at parkhead? Are you telling me that that’s an appropriate place to hold such a thing? Does parkhead suddenly have better facilities than the SSEC? I don’t think so.
When they decide to print this review ( hopefully in our lifetime ) then I believe there will be journalists ready to pounce on it and rip it apart.
I actually emailed complaining about this seminar at Parkhead and got a reply saying it was the best venue for parking needs etc. I replied giving the SECC and others as examples of venues that HAD NO CHILD ABUSE attached to them . I never got another reply. I wonder why?.
 
I have posted already on this but to everyone not within the working group please be patient and do not push for info ( I'm sure the guys are bursting to share). We need to be patient and allow all the incredible background work to appear at the right time for maximum impact, protecting the fragile victims and maximising the damage to the perpetrators (and their protectors). The more info released the greater the chance of further cover-up.

Please be patient.
 
I have posted already on this but to everyone not within the working group please be patient and do not push for info ( I'm sure the guys are bursting to share). We need to be patient and allow all the incredible background work to appear at the right time for maximum impact, protecting the fragile victims and maximising the damage to the perpetrators (and their protectors). The more info released the greater the chance of further cover-up.

Please be patient.
Continue to be patient and cautious mate and as you say it will all come out in the wash with them having no way to cover it up, I’m sure they will not have a clue how much the guys have put together.
 
I actually emailed complaining about this seminar at Parkhead and got a reply saying it was the best venue for parking needs etc. I replied giving the SECC and others as examples of venues that HAD NO CHILD ABUSE attached to them . I never got another reply. I wonder why?.
Mate, you know what nothing would surprise me. I bet there are some beasts in places of power in these charities. Remember the child sex scandals involving Save the Children, Oxfam and even United Nations staff. These deviants are everywhere.
 
Just in regards to a poster talking about Alan Brazil it has always amazed me that for someone who went through such a horrific ordeal of child abuse, he still supports and follows that same club till this day so passionately and apparently behind the scenes is as much a mentally challenged bigot.
If this had happened to me as much as I love Rangers theirs no way I could act the same way, I would be exposing the club and taking it down as much I could, this isn’t normal behaviour or is it.
If this happened to me or mine, I'd burn Ibrox down.
 
I have posted already on this but to everyone not within the working group please be patient and do not push for info ( I'm sure the guys are bursting to share). We need to be patient and allow all the incredible background work to appear at the right time for maximum impact, protecting the fragile victims and maximising the damage to the perpetrators (and their protectors). The more info released the greater the chance of further cover-up.

Please be patient.
The way it should be ; Patience is a Virtue .....
 
This stomach churning shame we have in Scotland ,the one the SNP government put an exemption on, the one they seem to whitewash. The corruption, the denials and cover-ups. Absolutely sickening, would be very time consuming they say. Your dam right,the habitual molestation of youngsters is abhorrent. Fifty years of depravity at celtic FC, who knows how long at the dioceses of Edinburgh, Glasgow, Motherwell and Aberdeen. When are they going to stop the window dressing and tackle the sins of the fathers.
 
The hypocrisy of the SNP is astounding cast your minds back to 1989 with the introduction of the Poll Tax and the fact that Scotland was being used as a test case a year before introduction to England & Wales they were outspoken along with mainly well known RC celebrities and socialist scum like 'Swinger'Sheridan. Fast forward to 2012 and Westminster HMRC pursuing Rangers as a test case for EBTs when other businesses in the UK used them as well the silence was deafening not a word of condemnation from Salmond nor Jimmy Krankie whose constituency is GOVAN and would surely have been all over it to help a major institution on her own doorstep but no. We were castigated with criticism about monies not paid in tax re schools hospitals etc etc monies of which no actual figure has been confirmed but Salmond post the 2014 Indy Ref wrote off £325M in unpaid Poll Tax debt but no condemnation about that money not being paid for local service maintenance. To be fair they are also staying quiet re CBC but that is to aid the Scum not to hinder them.The reason can only be Rangers/fans are a British/ Unionist organisation and the EastEnders are Republican/Nationalists. Who knows perhaps that was the catalyst of the 2014 No vote. Thank God.
 
The marist school as it was known then was closed down for the obvious reasons. Also before rebranding to st mungos all of the school records went on fire, fancy that. Some former pupils that may be of interest as well. (Note) The school may well have had the name st mungos from the outset, but there has been a lot of rebranding in all of the ex marist brother organisations since the 1990s world wide closure.

 
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As long as the SNP are in power would probably be the simple answer to that. Something we learnt a while back now and we have the correspondence to prove it.
Another major problem is the SFA, not only at the time but also now. We have proof of how the SFA treated the victims. We have it in black and white and we will go public with it. This will show exactly what the SFA done and how they treated these poor victims after they came forward.
Thanks for answering mate.
Something ive noticed is that cetlic fans think its point scoring against their club. But they dont realise that there were fans of different clubs at cetlic as youngsters.
Rangers fans and kids who supported other teams were subject to those animals.
 
This is one point I made a while ago. The master (of this disgusting crime) would have been an apprentice at one point. So who taught him?

Its a lot easier for people to be manipulated now into criminality in my opinion nowadays, through the internet in particular.

But back then it had to be taught in person.
And a good point at that, not sure if anyone has dug into his past before he ended up at 666fc, school, guild, alter boy, did he have a dodgy upbringing a dirty old uncle, his priest who may have had ties to 666fc or even Kelly himself, there are many ways he could have ended up there And it would not surprise me in the slightest if this was their way to set up their conveyor belt of victims, the full board back then should be turned over and connect Torbett to them, I don’t believe this guy rolled up unaided and already skilled in his devious ways, someone taught him.
 
The hypocrisy of the SNP is astounding cast your minds back to 1989 with the introduction of the Poll Tax and the fact that Scotland was being used as a test case a year before introduction to England & Wales they were outspoken along with mainly well known RC celebrities and socialist scum like 'Swinger'Sheridan. Fast forward to 2012 and Westminster HMRC pursuing Rangers as a test case for EBTs when other businesses in the UK used them as well the silence was deafening not a word of condemnation from Salmond nor Jimmy Krankie whose constituency is GOVAN and would surely have been all over it to help a major institution on her own doorstep but no. We were castigated with criticism about monies not paid in tax re schools hospitals etc etc monies of which no actual figure has been confirmed but Salmond post the 2014 Indy Ref wrote off £325M in unpaid Poll Tax debt but no condemnation about that money not being paid for local service maintenance. To be fair they are also staying quiet re CBC but that is to aid the Scum not to hinder them.The reason can only be Rangers/fans are a British/ Unionist organisation and the EastEnders are Republican/Nationalists. Who knows perhaps that was the catalyst of the 2014 No vote. Thank God.
The hypocrisy of the SNP is astounding cast your minds back to 1989 with the introduction of the Poll Tax and the fact that Scotland was being used as a test case a year before introduction to England & Wales they were outspoken along with mainly well known RC celebrities and socialist scum like 'Swinger'Sheridan. Fast forward to 2012 and Westminster HMRC pursuing Rangers as a test case for EBTs when other businesses in the UK used them as well the silence was deafening not a word of condemnation from Salmond nor Jimmy Krankie whose constituency is GOVAN and would surely have been all over it to help a major institution on her own doorstep but no. We were castigated with criticism about monies not paid in tax re schools hospitals etc etc monies of which no actual figure has been confirmed but Salmond post the 2014 Indy Ref wrote off £325M in unpaid Poll Tax debt but no condemnation about that money not being paid for local service maintenance. To be fair they are also staying quiet re CBC but that is to aid the Scum not to hinder them.The reason can only be Rangers/fans are a British/ Unionist organisation and the EastEnders are Republican/Nationalists. Who knows perhaps that was the catalyst of the 2014 No vote. Thank God.
Unfortunately in this sad wee country we now live in,a certain religion is untouchable,and can do no wrong, and the big bad Unionists are to blame for everything.

C'mon we'd be shut down by now,if we'd committed half the horrible things that the other lot done, but they can still mange to cover it up.
 
the story behind john mc cluskey of celtic boys club


Celtic Sex fiend left me weeping in Norway

by Anna Smith

At just 13, he was Celtic's youngest-ever signing and hailed as Scotland's greatest prospect. But John McCluskey's dreams of stardom were tarnished by Jim Torbett. The innocent lad was used for tawdry sex by the manager during a boys' club trip to Norway. And, when Torbett had fulfilled his sick obsession, he left his victim alone, confused and crying.

John, the brother of Parkhead favourite George McCluskey, spoke yesterday of the agony he has felt for 23 years. Near tears, he said: "My guilt and shame now is not for what happened that night. My shame is that I waited 23 years to do anything about it. "Dunblane was the one thing that made me come forward. If some of the boys abused by Thomas Hamilton had spoken out, perhaps the massacre might not have happened."

Striker John was destined to be a Celtic great. At 12, he so impressed Jock Stein that he was promised a place on the ground staff as soon as he left school. A key player at Celtic Boys' Club, John's Lanarkshire home was littered with trophies and medals. But one Best Player trophy fills him with revulsion each time he looks at it. It was given him after the awful night in Norway that changed his life forever. John said: "Every time I look at that trophy, I wonder if I got it because of what Torbett did to me. "I've always felt like throwing it in a river. But, if I had, I'd have had to tell everyone what happened." Tears fill John's eyes as he relives the nightmare. He said: "We were lying in a dormitory talking about football -the usual stuff.

"Torbett was sleeping in the dorm and shouted, `Fryer' -my nickname -`go in that room and sort the strips for tomorrow'. "But, when I went in, the strips were already sorted. "Torbett followed me in and sat me down on the bed. He put his hand inside my pyjamas and fondled me. "I was terrified. I didn't know what to do. I just sat there and let him do it to me. "When I think of it now it makes me sick. "He left, and I cried my eyes out. I didn't want to go back among the boys and I didn't want to be by myself. I was so frightened. "Eventually I went back to bed and pulled the covers over my head. "I didn't know what to think. I thought there must be something wrong with me and I must have enjoyed it, otherwise I wouldn't have let him do it to me. "So I was terrified to complain to anyone."

John had been on other foreign trips with the boys' club. But he came back from Norway a different person. He said: "Everything had changed. But I was still determined to be a great player. "I trained hard and played really well. I don't know how, but I was able to concentrate on my game." But he stayed away from Torbett. He said: "A crowd of boys used to go to his home all the time. I went once, and that was enough for me. "I saw him beat up a lad who played with the boys' club, but was about 17 and seemed to live with him. "I was horrified to see him slapping his face and punching him, yet the boy did nothing to stop him. "There was always talk around Celtic about Torbett and boys, but nothing seemed to be done until Jock Stein found out. "He kicked Torbett out, but it was still kept quiet. "All the directors and lots of others knew why Torbett got the boot, but it was swept under the carpet."

John soon became a young Scottish hero, scoring the winner against England at Wembley in a 1975 schoolboy international. All eyes were on the boy who was to be the new Kenny Dalglish. But, two years later, a kick in training caused a blood clot on his leg that destroyed his career. John made a brief comeback, playing with Celtic's first team in a European tie when he was still 17. But his injury recurred, and he hasn't played since. For nearly 20 years, he has watched former team-mates grab the trophies as his life has become a tragic tale of booze and disappointment. John, who now hasn't touched a drop in four years, reckons his injury helped push him into drinking. But he is sure his biggest reason was to blot out the memory of Torbett's abuse. He said: "I started drinking after Norway. Suddenly it looked like something I wanted to do. "I was drinking heavily from 17. It was the only way to forget what Torbett did.

"I was shattered that my career had finished. But I could have lived with that if it hadn't been for Norway. "I'm so glad I don't have sons. I would have wanted to send them to Celtic Boys Club, but I would always have wondered if some pervert was abusing them. "It took me a long time to come to terms with what happened and understand it wasn't my fault. "But there are still days when I suddenly find myself in tears. "Nobody should get away with what Torbett did. How many more boys have suffered because of him? "I still love Celtic. I go to Parkhead every week and I'll be a Celtic man until I die. "I only hope real Celtic fans will understand why I have come forward. If I can help stop this happening to one more boy, it will have been worthwhile."

TORBETT PLEADED AS HIS VICTIM SOBBED

A few days ago, John got a chilling phone call from Torbett pleading his innocence. It came after John made a sworn statement about the pervert to Celtic's lawyers, in the presence of club supremo Fergus McCann. John said: "I didn't even tell my brother George about Torbett until last week. "He was furious and wanted to do something about it. I told him to leave it, that I was coping fine. "But, when he left the house, I just burst into tears. "While I was crying, the phone rang. It was Torbett. "He said: `What are you doing to me, son?' "I told him it was what he did to me that was the problem. "He said:`You know I never touched you, son. You know I loved you, and your family.' "I was sick, just listening to him. "I told him that I hadn't gone to the police or the newspapers and he said, `I appreciate that, son'."

John told how a visit from the police, who were investigating sex abuse allegations at Celtic Boys' Club dating back four years, finally made him come forward. He said: "The police were asking about someone else. "I thought they wanted to talk about Torbett, but they didn't, so I didn't tell them my story. "I spoke to Tommy Burns about it instead. He got me to make a statement to Fergus McCann who asked me to make a statement to their lawyers. "I have now done that. I will also make a statement to the police."

and the celtic blogger on wiki with their explanation:

Sadly, it was revealed years later that he was targetted & abused by his football coach Jim Torbett under the cover of the Celtic Boys Club banner (an entity that was not actually run or part of Celtic). Jim Torbett was sentenced in 2018 for his crimes. The club & support must work to ensure that never again is such a situation possible again, and all clubs must work to ensure that children are protected at all times.


SO STATEMENTS WERE MADE TO SEVERAL PARTIES....WHERE ARE THEY?
 
Could you imagine the level of them being offended at use making money from a happy ending film where every poor abused guy has been awarded £1m each and they’re club go out the box
It would be a World Wide hit if everybody could witness a true story on a weekly basis showing the journey of excited youngsters starting out to live their dream of playing for their heroes , then the horrors of being used by depraved paedophiles ruining their young lives then eventually after the long hard slog of court battles Mother Justice shines through and all the youngsters , who by this time are fully grown mature adults apart from those who sadly never get to see justice revel with the glory of success as the truth comes out , jail sentences for all who took part in cover-ups of the truth plus the perps and then the bulldozers move in to demolish the monstrosity of a club that ruined their young lives . Not a dry eye among the viewers as justice is finally served . Fingers crossed it happens !
 
C'mon we'd be shut down by now,if we'd committed half the horrible things that the other lot done
Not wanting to be petty mate and this is not directed only at your good self, but we should refrain from saying "if we had done this". I've seen so many on here saying similar and it should never be compared to us.

We never did this, we would never think of doing this and it is exclusive to the RC cult, it's followers and "their" followers.

Don't let them drag us down good people.
 
It would be a World Wide hit if everybody could witness a true story on a weekly basis showing the journey of excited youngsters starting out to live their dream of playing for their heroes , then the horrors of being used by depraved paedophiles ruining their young lives then eventually after the long hard slog of court battles Mother Justice shines through and all the youngsters , who by this time are fully grown mature adults apart from those who sadly never get to see justice revel with the glory of success as the truth comes out , jail sentences for all who took part in cover-ups of the truth plus the perps and then the bulldozers move in to demolish the monstrosity of a club that ruined their young lives . Not a dry eye among the viewers as justice is finally served . Fingers crossed it happens !
Justice for the guys first and foremost then if all you suggested was to happen then he’ll mend them
 
Not wanting to be petty mate and this is not directed only at your good self, but we should refrain from saying "if we had done this". I've seen so many on here saying similar and it should never be compared to us.

We never did this, we would never think of doing this and it is exclusive to the RC cult, it's followers and "their" followers.

Don't let them drag us down good people.

Sorry mate, but that's nonsense. Paedophilia isn't exclusive to any religion.

Let's focus on Celtic and the shameful cover up that continues to this day.
 
Sorry mate, but that's nonsense. Paedophilia isn't exclusive to any religion.

Let's focus on Celtic and the shameful cover up that continues to this day.
For sure mate and perhaps I shouldn't have said exclusively but my real point is that we should not be offering Rangers in any relationship to this as though we could ever have covered anything up. We haven't been involved so please don't say "if we had done this".

Rips my knitting.
 

After leaving office in 2003, he was appointed chair of the Glasgow Marketing Bureau, and promptly awarded a £200,000 contract to an established Glasgow business – The Trophy Centre which, at the time, was owned by a former Celtic Director (formerly owned by James Torbett – the monster at the head of the Celtic Boys Club child abuse scandal)

Fück me. It never stops
 
After leaving office in 2003, he was appointed chair of the Glasgow Marketing Bureau, and promptly awarded a £200,000 contract to an established Glasgow business – The Trophy Centre which, at the time, was owned by a former Celtic Director (formerly owned by James Torbett – the monster at the head of the Celtic Boys Club child abuse scandal)

Fück me. It never stops
What a find.
 
"Which has become an integral part of Celtic'
Words which may haunt them.

I said it at the time whoever advised Liewell to use the phrase “separate entity” made a massive mistake which will hopefully cost them big time both financially and also to there reputation world wide for trying to distance themselves from there responsibilities to help the victims
 
I said it at the time whoever advised Liewell to use the phrase “separate entity” made a massive mistake which will hopefully cost them big time both financially and also to there reputation world wide for trying to distance themselves from there responsibilities to help the victims

Agreed. I was going to say they shot themselves in the foot but it's more like they blew the damn thing off!

It's going to come back to haunt them big time.
 
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