Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

Can I also just add this... The Guardian aren’t finished. There will be more from them. We are also in contact with some big hitters who will not mind me mentioning that there will be more from them also.
I’ll never forget the day where I said to the others “we need to break this dam”
Granted it maybe just a trickle of water coming through but they will never be able to repair it once the water starts flowing.
We also had people doubting us and all we asked was to please be patient. We promise there is more to come. Maybe not tomorrow or the next day but it’s on it’s way.
 
Everyone should be prepared for a massive deflection story to appear.

It will involve us, it will be lies and it will be headline news.

We need to be prepared.
Yes well we do have the Daily Rhebel and The Scottish Sun in this country who will no doubt be trying to dig some shite up as we speak. Shame on them for not having the balls to take this on.
 
Can I also just add this... The Guardian aren’t finished. There will be more from them. We are also in contact with some big hitters who will not mind me mentioning that there will be more from them also.
I’ll never forget the day where I said to the others “we need to break this dam”
Granted it maybe just a trickle of water coming through but they will never be able to repair it once the water starts flowing.
We also had people doubting us and all we asked was to please be patient. We promise there is more to come. Maybe not tomorrow or the next day but it’s on it’s way.
You and the others in the team can be extremely proud of what you have achieved so far, BN94. Hell I'm proud and I've contributed nothing!! If I ever get to meet you in person, or GY, I'll gladly fill with with bevvy for the night.
 
How some people can look themselves in the mirror in the morning ?
This eats away at your average tim.

the more rational mentally challenged tries try to ignore it and hope it goes away.

the more of a puddle drinker they are, the more they fight it and shout down anyone who speaks about it.

a club like no other, indeed.

tainted ten or not, they know their history.
 
You and the others in the team can be extremely proud of what you have achieved so far, BN94. Hell I'm proud and I've contributed nothing!! If I ever get to meet you in person, or GY, I'll gladly fill with with bevvy for the night.

It's an amazing team of people Jacobite. Incredible people.

And they just want justice for these people mate, that's all.

So your money's safe :))
 
There’s more than us both. I’m proud of everyone of them. Amazing effort but the fight goes on.
i juat wanna ask quick questiom mate also your work for the victims has been outstanding but mainly just wanna ask what do you see as tbe end game for this? the club shut down in my opinion is the only right thing to do. any organisation covers up or harbors peados shud instantly be closed. altho SNP and SFA will no doubt back the club like no other
 
i juat wanna ask quick questiom mate also your work for the victims has been outstanding but mainly just wanna ask what do you see as tbe end game for this? the club shut down in my opinion is the only right thing to do. any organisation covers up or harbors peados shud instantly be closed. altho SNP and SFA will no doubt back the club like no other
I honestly couldn’t comment on that. Our job was to bring it to the attention to the media outside Scotland as our country is riddled with corruption and Celtic apologists. In the real world they should be shutdown but who knows?
 
This eats away at your average tim.

the more rational mentally challenged tries try to ignore it and hope it goes away.

the more of a puddle drinker they are, the more they fight it and shout down anyone who speaks about it.

a club like no other, indeed.

tainted ten or not, they know their history.

If they want to put league titles before fucking up innocent children's lives, then I dont
know what to say Bobans.

We already know of three former players who took their own lives.

Was this connected ? I'll let others form their own views :mad:
 
The level of fear that prompted that nonce to break his cover and post on this forum is a reflection on the work being done here.
I expect we will see more desperate Timmys on here soon.

to the petrified lurkers viewing this. Your choice is coming soon continue to fund your vile organisation or bin the green and grey and find some compassion for the lives your club ruined.
I simply couldn’t imagine having to make a choice like that however your vile club has put you in it.

Your clubs shame doesn’t have to be your burden to carry.
 
THE BIGGEST IN WORLD SPORT, just for the record PP.

In any other country in the world they would have been suspended from football pending a full investigation. They would be facing expulsion from the game altogether.

Here we have the SNP, Politicians, the Judiciary and sections of the SMSM pulling out all the stops in an attempt to cover up the disgraceful abuse that went on at Parkhead where a grooming gang were running amok.

The Celtic View Photographer kept his kiddie porn stash in the stadium itself ffs! Let that sink in.

Now, just as it was back in the days of Stein, it's all about protecting the 'good name'

Celtic and those protecting them are an affront to human decency.
 
From the Guardian online Australian edition this morning.


Child abuse victims to sue Celtic FC in landmark case
Civil action claims Scottish club failed to protect them from paedophiles working around Celtic Boys’ Club

Henry McDonald



A view of the Jock Stein statue outside Celtic Park. Photograph: Jeff J Mitchell/Getty Images

Victims of a number of paedophiles are to sue Celtic football club in a ground-breaking civil action amidst claims it failed to protect them from sex abusers working around Celtic Boys’ Club.
Three victim-survivors aim to use a civil trial to “knock down the defence wall” they say Celtic has erected in order to distance itself from the Boys’ Club, the Guardian has learnt.
The Glasgow-based team insist that Celtic Boys’ Club is a separate legal entity – a claim that those abused at the latter say only compounds the decades of hurt they have endured. The new Scottish Premiership champions have repeatedly made this claim in the Scottish media.
The victim-survivors hope their case will also shine light on the role played by a senior Celtic executive when one paedophile returned to the Boys’ Club after he had been allegedly sacked from it in 1974 by Jock Stein, the Glasgow side’s legendary European Cup winning manager.
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A Guardian investigation has also uncovered allegations of threats, intimidation, vandalism and social media attacks on the family of one victim of the Celtic Boys’ Club abusers. There is no suggestion these incidents are linked to anyone connected to Celtic FC or the Boys’ Club.
Several victim-survivors have criticised the Scottish government for failing to set up an independent public inquiry into the abuse scandal that has shaken Celtic and Scottish football.
A Scottish government spokesperson said it has already established a wide ranging review into child abuse across Scotland.
“The Scottish government, having listened to the views of survivors, established one of the widest ranging public inquiries that Scotland has ever seen, into the abuse of children in care, focusing on the systemic institutional failures which saw many of our most vulnerable children, including those in the care of the state, abused by the very individuals who were there to care for them. We want that inquiry to be able to undertake its work in a timescale that can address the issues raised by survivors, many of whom are elderly,” it said.
Patrick McGuire, one of the lawyers for the 21 victim-survivors, describes Celtic’s argument that it was and is a separate legal entity from the Boys’ Club and is therefore not corporately responsible for the paedophiles crimes as “absolute nonsense.”
McGuire, a senior partner in Glasgow law firm Thompsons which is taking the civil action later this year on behalf of the victim-survivors, said:
“There is loads of evidence of scouts at Celtic finding young stars and telling them the route into the parent club is first to join the Boys’ Club.
“We have a copy of ‘Celtic View’ (the club’s official newspaper) which talks about the players of that week going from the senior team best player all the way down to the Boys’ Club. Their in-house newspaper talks about the Boys’ Club being ‘part of the Celtic family’ and Davy Hay, a former manager, described the youth side as the ‘base of the pyramid’ of the entire club.”
The abusers connected with Celtic Boys’ include multi-millionaire businessman James Torbett who helped set up the club in the late 1960s. He was sentenced for six years in November 2018 after the trial judge said he “used the club as a front for child sexual abuse.” Torbett was also jailed in 1998 for abusing young players between 1967 and 1974.
Another prominent management figure in Celtic Boys’ Club was the team’s former kitman Jim McCafferty. Last year the 73-year-old was found guilty of 12 sex abuse charges in relation to ten boys. McCafferty’s crimes stretched from 1972 to 1996. He was sentenced to six years and nine months in prison after admitting to all 12 charges.
At the time of his conviction in May 2019 McCafferty was already serving a prison sentence for the sexual abuse of a boy in Belfast. Four out of his 12 victims played for the Boys’ Club but others included boys from other football youth teams he ran in North Lanarkshire.
Several of these men’s victims went on to become senior professional players at Celtic, other Scottish premier league teams and for Scotland.
One of Torbett’s victims who has spoken out, David Gordon, says Celtic’s position that it was and remains a separate legal entity flies in the face of facts.
“We trained at Barrowfield (their training centre) and we actually played at Parkhead. I remember running out there as a 14-year-old in the hooped jersey before a Celtic v Rangers game in front of an 80,000 plus crowd. I remember we even swopped jerseys with a young Rangers kid on the pitch. Was I playing for a separate legal entity back then? They even used to get us at the Boys’ Club to sell the programmes during big matches.”
Families who have spoken out in favour of the civil action against Celtic have received physical and on-line threats over recent months.
Michelle Gray’s late brother Andrew revealed before he died in Australia that Torbett had sexually abused him when the paedophile was allowed back into the club in the mid 1980s. Michelle Gray and her mother Helene say the threats started when they attended Torbett’s second trial in 2018.
“One big man among Torbett’s supporters outside the court room even said out loud that my mother and me were ‘dirty lying bastards.’ This was in October 2018,” she recalls.
“This was his second conviction and there were still people turning up to support Torbett.”
Michelle Gray says she heard one of them say that Andy was also a ‘dirty lying bastard’ even though her brother was already dead.
Even after Torbett’s second conviction the Gray family say the online torment, social ostracisation and even vandalism directed at Michelle’s car is ongoing.
“When we went public and said we were joining the civil action against Celtic I received a death threat on the phone. The level of abuse on social media over the last few months has also been appalling.”
Celtic did not address specific questions the Guardian sent to it in relation to the forthcoming civil action, instead referring to a statement it first issued in February in relation to the accusations.
The statement said: “Celtic Football Club is appalled by any form of historic abuse and has great sympathy for those who suffered abuse and for their families. The Club is very sorry that these events took place. The abuse of young people is an abhorrent crime. Unfortunately it has affected many areas of society.
“With regard to the allegations regarding historic abuse at Celtic Boys’ Club (which, so far as we have been made aware, relate to the period prior to 1997), although Celtic Football Club is a separate organisation, we take these extremely seriously because of the historic contacts between the two organisations. Police investigations were given support, so as to seek to ensure that those individuals who abused young people were brought to justice.”
Huge article that puts lot of info in the public domain that was really only on here before. Excellent.

Small point; guardian australia online. UK version still avoiding it?
 
In any other country in the world they would have been suspended from football pending a full investigation. They would be facing expulsion from the game altogether.

Here we have the SNP, Politicians, the Judiciary and sections of the SMSM pulling out all the stops in an attempt to cover up the disgraceful abuse that went on at Parkhead where a grooming gang were running amok.

The Celtic View Photographer kept his kiddie porn stash in the stadium itself ffs! Let that sink in.

Now, just as it was back in the days of Stein, it's all about protecting the 'good name'

Celtic and those protecting them are an affront to human decency.

Perfectly said LL.
 
That letter is interesting because Liewell states its their insurers, not the club, who carried out the investigation. This would suggest the concern was damage limitation rather than an investigation into the abuse itself. It doesn't state the parameters of the investigation which means it could easily have been an investigation on ways to escape or limit culpability, or an investigation into means of keeping the story out of the media spotlight. .
 
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That letter is interesting because Liewell says its their insurers, not the club, who carried out the investigation. This would suggest the concern was damage limitation rather than an investigation into the abuse itself
Of course it was. How can you have an internal investigation and not interview victims? And then a few days later Lyness Malley came to light. That was really a thorough investigation. Wouldn’t you say?
 
McGuire added: “ We are now in a position where Celtic’s management will appear in court to argue that these victims are owed nothing by Celtic. Shame on them."

Celtic's management?

Who in their right mind would stand up there and make a complete and utter khunt of themselves?

I'd give my left hairy egg to see The Fat Japanese stuttering and spluttering as McGuire rips him a new one.
 
To be blunt , I only joined FF ... for the laughs ( there are a few cracking one liners etc). I started reading this thread and thought wtf ! The guys doing the work behind the scenes are truly Magnificent Bastards , and as for the shameless ,especially rhetards that come in and show what they really are , no wonder they love the paedodome a place like no other ....for some sick minded f**ckers .
 
Celtic sued by former boys' club player over sexual abuse
By Calum McKay BBC Scotland

A former youth footballer is suing Celtic FC over the sexual abuse he suffered while playing for Celtic Boys' Club.
Thompsons Solicitors has sent official papers on behalf of one client seeking damages from the Parkhead club.
The case will now be heard at the Court of Session in the coming months.
Celtic has said that while it shares "historic contacts" with the boys' club, the two are separate organisations.
Thompsons represents more than 20 survivors who allege they were abused at the boys' club - a feeder club to the senior Celtic team - during the 1970s, 80s, and 90s.

This is the first "test case" the firm will bring to court.
In recent years, a number of former senior figures at the boys' club have been convicted of sexual crimes against young players in their care.
'Very sorry'
Celtic Boys Club founder Jim Torbett was jailed in 2018 for abusing his position to groom and sexually assault several youths over two spells at the boys' club.
Last year, Jim McCafferty, a coach and kit man for Celtic's youth team who also worked for the boys' club, admitted a string of sexual offences against boys at both clubs.
Former boys' club manager Frank Cairney was also jailed in February last year.
Image caption Celtic Boys' Club founder Jim Torbett was jailed in 2018
This is the next step in civil cases for damages taken by Thompsons against Celtic.
The firm says the club is responsible for the abuse suffered by its clients.
Celtic has been approached for comment on the case brought by Thompsons.
In February, the club said it was "very sorry that these events took place" but has repeatedly said the club and the boys club are "entirely separate" organisations with "historic contacts".
Last year, Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell said that the club had been conducting its own investigations into the abuse scandal at the boys' club, with a "wholly independent and experienced lawyer" leading the work.
No findings of that investigation have yet been made public.
Thompsons says that the two clubs shared a name, crest, personnel, premises and players.
No resolution
Patrick McGuire, the solicitor representing survivors, described the new legal proceedings as "hugely significant " for survivors of historical abuse.
He said: "One the best known and celebrated football clubs in the world is now going to be held to account in civil court for decades of the most abhorrent sexual abuse of children.
"These young lads and their families put their complete trust in Celtic and their feeder organisation Celtic Boys' Club.
"That trust was betrayed over four decades by a succession of paedophiles that operated openly within Celtic."
Both sides have been in discussions over civil cases for more than a year but, with no resolution, the first case will now proceed to court in the coming months.
In August, it emerged that Celtic had paid out "significant" compensation after admitting liability in a separate case.
The recipient was a former youth player at the club who was sexually abused by Jim McCafferty.
 
A wee insight into the average mentally challenged mind,some time back when I was on talking terms with my son in law I said to him all the sexual abuse of children is going come back and haunt your club for years to come your legendary manager is going to be exposed for the liar he was,after all big jock knew what was going on,his reply was ,aye big jock knew,he knew how to win the cup wae the big lugs,disgusting arsehole whom I've not spoken to since.
 
Just listened to the clip posted above

Who was the female asking the loaded questions from. BBC Scotland?

Her questions were a disgrace.

Trying to support the ‘separate entity’ lie.

Disgusting to think the victims were young boys and covered up for decades yet her tone and approach was to try and protect the Paedo harbourers and beasts

Phucking disgrace

Who is she?
 
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