Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

Pope revises Church law, expands rules on sexual abuse

VATICAN CITY (Reuters) -Pope Francis on Tuesday issued the most sweeping revision to Catholic Church law in four decades, toughening regulations for clerics who abuse minors and vulnerable adults, commit fraud or ordain women.

The revision, which has been in the works since 2009, involves all of section six of the Church's Code of Canon Law, a seven-book code of about 1,750 articles. It is the most extensive revision since the current code was approved by Pope John Paul in 1983.

The pope reminded bishops that they were responsible for following the letter of the law and that one aim of the revisions was to "reduce the number of cases in which the imposition of a penalty was left to the discretion of authorities".


The new section, involving about 80 articles concerning crime and punishment, incorporates some changes made to Church law since 1983 by the popes and introduces new categories.

Monsignor Filippo Iannone, head of the Vatican department that oversaw the project, said there had been "a climate of excessive slack in the interpretation of penal law," where mercy was sometimes put before justice.

Sexual abuse of minors was put under a new section titled "Offences Against Human Life, Dignity and Liberty," instead of the previously vague "Crimes Against Special Obligations".

That section was expanded to include new crimes such as "grooming" minors or vulnerable adults for sexual abuse and possessing child pornography.

(Reporting by Philip Pullella;Editing by Andrew Cawthorne and Bernadette Baum )
 

Interesting some of the comments below Spotlight’s post :

1.People are correct, it was failures, but failures with respect to knowing there was abuse & hiding it, by both McGinn & Kelly. They knew & hid child abuse, with many more suffering due to THEIR BEHAVIOUR TOO.

2.Celtic ‘whitabooterists’, only one club employed or re employed known paedophiles. ONE CLUB.
 
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I accidently found this podcast about Lawrence Haggart.
I havent listened to it all yet.

LAWRENCE HAGGART​

In Scotland, professional football clubs offered schoolboy forms to promising young players between the ages of nine and 16. Chosen boys received special training with a chance to play for their respective clubs later on down the track. In 1995, 15-year-old Lawrence Haggart’s dream came true when he signed schoolboy forms for Celtic, an elite Scottish football club.

When Lawrence is later found brutally beaten and set alight in his home, police cast a suspicious eye towards his brother, 12-year-old Dennis, assuming the motive was jealousy. But is everything as it seems?

 
The disgraceful behaviour of individuals at Celtic FC is unbelievable, to this day in denial and not a hint of remorse or contrition for the victims.
This unforgivable stance says a lot for the integrity of anyone associated directly or collaborating with the operating of this organisation. What sort of conscience do they have,the enormity of abuse is off scale but still unashamedly no ownership of the problem . What a condemnation of Scottish football and society this is that it allows this to happen.
 
I truly get angry when I read the historic events of CSA related to this club which has no conscience nor sympathy or any words of apology to those who suffered sexual abuse from the depraved animals who were employed at this club of human suffering and shame yet the supporters of this disgraceful organisation have the audacity to be offended by a club of unquestionable decency who had a number of fans that had the audacity to celebrate a wonderful successful season of football and some over exuberant fans getting bit too rowdy . Oh! the uproar that followed from the press and fans of CFC and the Justice minister at the time along with other members of the SNP , all horrified about the danger to the public those hoodlum type Ranger's fans were . Most of the accusations were totally unfounded of course but where are all those paragons of virtue who demand police action etc., for our fans when there is a club whom the majority of the offended public support in the east end of Glasgow who have covered up child abuse for over 5 decades and yet these hypocrites don't want know about it , which they most certainly do and refuse to talk about and remain in denial about their disgrace of a so called football club . Let's hope the new justice Minister can stand up and be counted and show his previous counterpart the meaning of justice for victims by demanding a thorough inquiry into CSA at CFC Boy's Club and long awaited satisfaction and peace of mind for the victims .
 
I truly get angry when I read the historic events of CSA related to this club which has no conscience nor sympathy or any words of apology to those who suffered sexual abuse from the depraved animals who were employed at this club of human suffering and shame yet the supporters of this disgraceful organisation have the audacity to be offended by a club of unquestionable decency who had a number of fans that had the audacity to celebrate a wonderful successful season of football and some over exuberant fans getting bit too rowdy . Oh! the uproar that followed from the press and fans of CFC and the Justice minister at the time along with other members of the SNP , all horrified about the danger to the public those hoodlum type Ranger's fans were . Most of the accusations were totally unfounded of course but where are all those paragons of virtue who demand police action etc., for our fans when there is a club whom the majority of the offended public support in the east end of Glasgow who have covered up child abuse for over 5 decades and yet these hypocrites don't want know about it , which they most certainly do and refuse to talk about and remain in denial about their disgrace of a so called football club . Let's hope the new justice Minister can stand up and be counted and show his previous counterpart the meaning of justice for victims by demanding a thorough inquiry into CSA at CFC Boy's Club and long awaited satisfaction and peace of mind for the victims .
Well Said .
 
Thought he couldn’t remember anything about them ?
He seems to remember enough to make him shut the door on Adrian Goldberg , they just want someone to wave a magic wand and make it all go away . They have shown no compassion at all for the victims so Hell mend the lot of them who committed the offences and those who chose to keep it all quiet for the " good name "of the shameless club when the Iron Fist of Justice comes slamming down on them . The sad thing is they will never suffer more than the victims have suffered for all those years . :mad:
 
Martin Henry was just another place man carefully picked to continue playing along with the time wasting lies of so called inquiries where instead of trying to find the truth he was only there to help along with the sidetracking to try and avoid the truth from becoming public knowledge which everybody already knows has been an open secret fore the last 50 years . The SFA are as complicit as CFC in trying to hide the truth and all they are achieving is showing the public that there are even more liars involved in the cover up than the public realised . Oh! what a tangled web they weave when first they practice to deceive has been said many times on here but it is a true fact .
 
He seems to remember enough to make him shut the door on Adrian Goldberg , they just want someone to wave a magic wand and make it all go away . They have shown no compassion at all for the victims so Hell mend the lot of them who committed the offences and those who chose to keep it all quiet for the " good name "of the shameless club when the Iron Fist of Justice comes slamming down on them . The sad thing is they will never suffer more than the victims have suffered for all those years . :mad:
They have one magic wand. Time. At some point everyone with a knowledge of their despicable actions will be dead or incapable of providing witness or taking the stand.
 
I accidently found this podcast about Lawrence Haggart.
I havent listened to it all yet.

LAWRENCE HAGGART​

In Scotland, professional football clubs offered schoolboy forms to promising young players between the ages of nine and 16. Chosen boys received special training with a chance to play for their respective clubs later on down the track. In 1995, 15-year-old Lawrence Haggart’s dream came true when he signed schoolboy forms for Celtic, an elite Scottish football club.

When Lawrence is later found brutally beaten and set alight in his home, police cast a suspicious eye towards his brother, 12-year-old Dennis, assuming the motive was jealousy. But is everything as it seems?


not reading it as I know the story and its grim......... but McCafferty looking for the boy before this happened, throws up so many red flags...... this needs looked at again with a modern crime unit
 
They have one magic wand. Time. At some point everyone with a knowledge of their despicable actions will be dead or incapable of providing witness or taking the stand.
You might be right. Individuals employed by that club knew though. The important bit to remember is employed by the club. We are also finding names of enablers over the past few years.
With the trial of one individual coming up and another facing more charges, then we believe it can only get bigger. If it wasn’t for certain apologists within the Scottish government then we strongly believe this would be a lot further forward.
I apologise that I can’t go any further on the other issue of abuse taking place on foreign soil. There is interest coming from more than one country is about all we can say.
We know time isn’t on our side when it comes to certain individuals that could have put a stop to this decades ago. Our only choice is to keep fighting.
 
You might be right. Individuals employed by that club knew though. The important bit to remember is employed by the club. We are also finding names of enablers over the past few years.
With the trial of one individual coming up and another facing more charges, then we believe it can only get bigger. If it wasn’t for certain apologists within the Scottish government then we strongly believe this would be a lot further forward.
I apologise that I can’t go any further on the other issue of abuse taking place on foreign soil. There is interest coming from more than one country is about all we can say.
We know time isn’t on our side when it comes to certain individuals that could have put a stop to this decades ago. Our only choice is to keep fighting.
You are absolutely spot on. And a thanks from many for the hard work that is put into this.
 
Would you, or any of your team consider standing, as an independent, against a prominent official, Yousaff or his replacement, in an election.
Would it even be worthwhile?
Okay, he/she would be a one policy candidate, and would probably lose their deposit, but it might get a message across to a wider audience.
 
BN94 and the team. Keep fighting. Never give up. I wish I could help you but wouldn't know where to start. Your hard work is appreciated. You have all done more collectively than the so called justice system in Scotland in bringing this to the fore.
When a certain trial is underway then there will be more that will be released by Spotlight. Certain trusted individuals within the press have been handed documents by Spotlight also, and other evidence has been handed to certain authorities.
 
Would you, or any of your team consider standing, as an independent, against a prominent official, Yousaff or his replacement, in an election.
Would it even be worthwhile?
Okay, he/she would be a one policy candidate, and would probably lose their deposit, but it might get a message across to a wider audience.
Spotlight aren’t political in any way. It was set up to assist victims and to gather evidence to hand to the appropriate people. To find the truth and the extent of the cover up by that club.
One thing that really shocked us in recent weeks is how some of these individuals within the SNP managed to raise their heads when it came to Rangers Football Club on a certain issue.
If only they put the same effort into the club they have allegiances to then things could be different. They don’t represent the people. They represent and defend the people that have the same beliefs as them.
 
This is a question that needs to be asked at the kiddy on parliament. Who exactly decided this individual should lead an enquiry of this nature, and why was there no check done on his background to make sure he was suitable for this task.
Yes, who made the decision to appoint him? If you really wanted an independent investigation I would have a professional secular maternal woman from outside Scotland.
Even the Scottish Executive (it's not a government) report into historic abuse had many chairs quitting because of SNP interference.
Martin Henry is a stooge, probably played like a vulnerable man too. When he said his report was complete, it was a year later published. A year for SFA to doctor, redact and obstruct.
The truth will out.
 
They have one magic wand. Time. At some point everyone with a knowledge of their despicable actions will be dead or incapable of providing witness or taking the stand.
It certainly looks like the way their twisted minds would work Ps , a plan to save face but also a plan to save paying out compensation but as far as I'm concerned they will always be the club who turned a blind eye to youngsters being sexually abused and did nothing to protect them and will always be a club of shame without morals .
 
This is only the tip of the iceberg, there are 130 of these schools Canada wide. As of yet there is no apologies from the Catholic Church here in Canada.
This mob have been raping children all over the world for centuries, they haven’t learned, they haven’t stopped. Recently a Cardinal in Germany offered his resignation to the king of the paedos over the fact that 1700 clergy had sexually abused 3677 children between 1946-2014. Who knows what the true figures are? Why are this shower of shite still allowed to operate, we can’t control what the rest of the world does but the RCC should be outlawed in the UK. There’s zero appetite for this politically as they are such an insidious cult infiltrating the corridors of power together with a brainwashed following willing to provide a block vote. Evident from the obfuscation and resistance Spotlight experience when trying to get to the truth on behalf of the victims and their families.
Keep chipping away, you’ll get the bastards.
 
This mob have been raping children all over the world for centuries, they haven’t learned, they haven’t stopped. Recently a Cardinal in Germany offered his resignation to the king of the paedos over the fact that 1700 clergy had sexually abused 3677 children between 1946-2014. Who knows what the true figures are? Why are this shower of shite still allowed to operate, we can’t control what the rest of the world does but the RCC should be outlawed in the UK. There’s zero appetite for this politically as they are such an insidious cult infiltrating the corridors of power together with a brainwashed following willing to provide a block vote. Evident from the obfuscation and resistance Spotlight experience when trying to get to the truth on behalf of the victims and their families.
Keep chipping away, you’ll get the bastards.
Imagine how bad this must be in South American towns and Cities
 
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You might be right. Individuals employed by that club knew though. The important bit to remember is employed by the club. We are also finding names of enablers over the past few years.
With the trial of one individual coming up and another facing more charges, then we believe it can only get bigger. If it wasn’t for certain apologists within the Scottish government then we strongly believe this would be a lot further forward.
I apologise that I can’t go any further on the other issue of abuse taking place on foreign soil. There is interest coming from more than one country is about all we can say.
We know time isn’t on our side when it comes to certain individuals that could have put a stop to this decades ago. Our only choice is to keep fighting.
Interest from the media, or law authorities? Hopefully both.
 
The disgraceful behaviour of individuals at Celtic FC is unbelievable, to this day in denial and not a hint of remorse or contrition for the victims.
This unforgivable stance says a lot for the integrity of anyone associated directly or collaborating with the operating of this organisation. What sort of conscience do they have,the enormity of abuse is off scale but still unashamedly no ownership of the problem . What a condemnation of Scottish football and society this is that it allows this to happen.
Their conscience is wiped clean at the confessional.
 
exactly, why Police Scotland havent went back snd looked at this after his convictions is a travesty
Something stinks all round with the guy mentioned. He went onto Hibs and Falkirk (even though I think he was sacked by Celtic) as kitman too did he not? Sure he mentioned when he had his confession a couple of years back about another manager coming to him worried that he might have went "a bit far" when mucking around with youngsters in boot room.
 
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