A bizarre smear on people of faith this post, Pathfinder.Pressure on the football authorities to impose sanctions on this shower of filth must be kept up. There is NO such thing as a god or karma to dispense universal justice.
9 million children under the age of 5 die every year, that’s 17 every minute. Tens of millions of parents and family members desperately praying to whichever god they were indoctrinated to believe in by their parents only to find out there is nobody listening and the universe is totally indifferent to our pain and suffering.
When this latest round of litigation has completed the good and decent people of this country and others should apply unbearable pressure on the SFA and SPFL to take action. I’m not saying it will be easy and straightforward, nothing worthwhile ever is.
The post was neither bizarre or a smear on anyone other than the paedos from the east of the city.A bizarre smear on people of faith this post, Pathfinder.
All true Huck, a sad indictment on Scottish society.Five years since the first post in this thread , a lot of untiring work from the spotlight team and heart wrenching unfolding stories from victims. The reality is no real appetite to go after and fully expose the club like no other from people of influence.
If only the victims were privileged to the same protection Celtic FC and the brand have received.
Investigating journalists, politicians, boardroom members, ex players/managers, media outlets, sponsors/business partners. Not one prepared to put their head above the parapet?
The greatest cover up is still in full operation to this day , sadly acceptable in today's society.
The Celtic scandal, the whole truth is so shocking no wonder Hugh Keevins and radio Clyde refuse to engage in discussion, puts Penn state and Barry Bennell into perspective.
What type of individual professional or otherwise is happy being associated with them ?
“Ah jist waant tae support ma club”.Five years since the first post in this thread , a lot of untiring work from the spotlight team and heart wrenching unfolding stories from victims. The reality is no real appetite to go after and fully expose the club like no other from people of influence.
If only the victims were privileged to the same protection Celtic FC and the brand have received.
Investigating journalists, politicians, boardroom members, ex players/managers, media outlets, sponsors/business partners. Not one prepared to put their head above the parapet?
The greatest cover up is still in full operation to this day , sadly acceptable in today's society.
The Celtic scandal, the whole truth is so shocking no wonder Hugh Keevins and radio Clyde refuse to engage in discussion, puts Penn state and Barry Bennell into perspective.
What type of individual professional or otherwise is happy being associated with them ?
Don’t think the issue of media not taking up the issue of child abuse for a documentary is an issue.One of the problems or it may be the one problem the media have with this is that the subject of Child Sexual Abuse is so horrendous that no one wants to touch it. Celtic and the RC Church are so accustomed to being part of it that they don’t really bother about it too much. The whole of Scotland knows about the Dirty Beasts in parishes all over the country and the fact that it spilled over into their favourite and favoured football team is not coincidence.
Thang God for the likes of Gordon Woods and be careful how you go mate as you know how warped the other side is.
Radio Clyde sponsor Celtic FC and are in full knowledge of their boys club scandal.Five years since the first post in this thread , a lot of untiring work from the spotlight team and heart wrenching unfolding stories from victims. The reality is no real appetite to go after and fully expose the club like no other from people of influence.
If only the victims were privileged to the same protection Celtic FC and the brand have received.
Investigating journalists, politicians, boardroom members, ex players/managers, media outlets, sponsors/business partners. Not one prepared to put their head above the parapet?
The greatest cover up is still in full operation to this day , sadly acceptable in today's society.
The Celtic scandal, the whole truth is so shocking no wonder Hugh Keevins and radio Clyde refuse to engage in discussion, puts Penn state and Barry Bennell into perspective.
What type of individual professional or otherwise is happy being associated with them ?
This 9 million figure is correct PF, I’ve heard it described in terms of the death toll of the 2004 Asian tsunami every 10 days affecting only children under the age of 5. A truly breathtaking amount of suffering if you let that sink in.Pressure on the football authorities to impose sanctions on this shower of filth must be kept up. There is NO such thing as a god or karma to dispense universal justice.
9 million children under the age of 5 die every year, that’s 17 every minute. Tens of millions of parents and family members desperately praying to whichever god they were indoctrinated to believe in by their parents only to find out there is nobody listening and the universe is totally indifferent to our pain and suffering.
When this latest round of litigation has completed the good and decent people of this country and others should apply unbearable pressure on the SFA and SPFL to take action. I’m not saying it will be easy and straightforward, nothing worthwhile ever is.
We’re definitely on our own Dado and all the wishful thinking in the world won’t change that. No supernatural being looking over us, certainly not one worthy of any praise or devotion.This 9 million figure is correct PF, I’ve heard it described in terms of the death toll of the 2004 Asian tsunami every 10 days affecting only children under the age of 5. A truly breathtaking amount of suffering if you let that sink in.
Arguing with a pape on X about the compensation for the abuse survivors & hes said this.
They really aren't well.
Cap doffed, great post mateFive years since the first post in this thread , a lot of untiring work from the spotlight team and heart wrenching unfolding stories from victims. The reality is no real appetite to go after and fully expose the club like no other from people of influence.
If only the victims were privileged to the same protection Celtic FC and the brand have received.
Investigating journalists, politicians, boardroom members, ex players/managers, media outlets, sponsors/business partners. Not one prepared to put their head above the parapet?
The greatest cover up is still in full operation to this day , sadly acceptable in today's society.
The Celtic scandal, the whole truth is so shocking no wonder Hugh Keevins and radio Clyde refuse to engage in discussion, puts Penn state and Barry Bennell into perspective.
What type of individual professional or otherwise is happy being associated with them ?
The figure Celtic won’t reveal is what is the cost in legal fees, That number will be much bigger than the compensation payout.I would imagine the real numbers for celtic will be similar to
£40m all in for CL
£15-18m for ORiley if they're lucky
£6-7m compensation
A small hit in their sponsorship because of this
£6m Idah
6m Bernardo
As for Frimpong he's not exactly at a stepping stone club. They've just won the Bundesliga and are playing in the CL. Why would he be going anywhere?
Add the training ground to that and I'm not sure they're all that much better placed than last year
The hold they have on all aspects of media, politicians, some say judiciary and our footballing bodies in this country has helped them partially bury this scandal. They will continue to deny and deflect with very little criticism from the parties mentioned above.Radio Clyde sponsor Celtic FC and are in full knowledge of their boys club scandal.
They have not walked away and as far as I am aware their sponsorship in general has not suffered.
This for me shows the hold this club have on Scottish society.
The sponsors must be more scared of withdrawing sponsorship and the effect on their companies rather than disassociating themselves from a club tainted with the stain of child abuse.
Normally and I’ll use Schofield as an example and you would argue that his history is a lesser example than child abuse and only involved 1 individual that his career went up in smoke including his lucrative advertising deals.
Companies couldn’t disassociate themselves fast enough..
For me just shows the power that deeply degenerate club has in Scotland.
While I concur with the sentiment you can visualise the headlines.The hold they have on all aspects of media, politicians, some say judiciary and our footballing bodies in this country has helped them partially bury this scandal. They will continue to deny and deflect with very little criticism from the parties mentioned above.
I can't help but think that it will be down to the Rangers support to put this front and centre. There are hundreds of thousands of Rangers fans in the central belt alone (look at the bears in Manchester). A march to Hampden from Central Station would be some demonstration and a sight to see, bringing hope to all the victims.
Might be a challenge logistically but if you can get 200,000 taking over Manchester, just saying.
I was kind of thinking of a march, policed by our own people along with plod.While I concur with the sentiment you can visualise the headlines.
Put it this way it wouldn’t be about supporters bringing out into the open a grievous child abuse scandal involving a Scottish Football Club.
It would be about Rangers bigoted fans marching as a mob urinating on the public streets of Glasgow and ensuing violence and vandalism.
Politicians in their droves would come out and denegrate Rangers and the behaviour of their supporters.
We can’t tolerate this behaviour on the streets of Glasgow.
The fact they started negotiating day after Bennell died was curious to meFive years since the first post in this thread , a lot of untiring work from the spotlight team and heart wrenching unfolding stories from victims. The reality is no real appetite to go after and fully expose the club like no other from people of influence.
If only the victims were privileged to the same protection Celtic FC and the brand have received.
Investigating journalists, politicians, boardroom members, ex players/managers, media outlets, sponsors/business partners. Not one prepared to put their head above the parapet?
The greatest cover up is still in full operation to this day , sadly acceptable in today's society.
The Celtic scandal, the whole truth is so shocking no wonder Hugh Keevins and radio Clyde refuse to engage in discussion, puts Penn state and Barry Bennell into perspective.
What type of individual professional or otherwise is happy being associated with them ?
In my view perhaps under the banner of Spotlight and online petition could be conducted requesting a full public enquiry into child abuse in Scottish Football.I was kind of thinking of a march, policed by our own people along with plod.
Howabout an online petition under the banner of Spotlight requesting a Public Enquiry into abuse of children at Scottish Football Clubs.I was kind of thinking of a march, policed by our own people along with plod.
Could be the way to GOG. Good points made there.In my view perhaps under the banner of Spotlight and online petition could be conducted requesting a full public enquiry into child abuse in Scottish Football.
There are a couple of MP’s I believe who would be supportive and they should be counselled.
My understanding is if 100,000 signatories sign a petition this enables the matter to be considered for discussion in the Commons.
This approach would have the advantage of removing the bigot charge aimed at our supporters which would attach to it and also as more generic could not be labelled as an attack on one club.
Howabout an online petition under the banner of Spotlight requesting a Public Enquiry into abuse of children at Scottish Football Clubs.
This reduces the insinuation that this is organised by bigots with an agenda.
I believe that there are MP’s who would support the concept.
In addition I understand that if a petition has 100,000 signatories this enables the matter to be discussed at the House Of Commons.
This would reduce the influence of politicians in Scotland with an agenda to suppress the matter.
Just a thought.
I had thought about 50,000 marching from Ibrox to Hampden.That would bring it to the attention of world media.The hold they have on all aspects of media, politicians, some say judiciary and our footballing bodies in this country has helped them partially bury this scandal. They will continue to deny and deflect with very little criticism from the parties mentioned above.
I can't help but think that it will be down to the Rangers support to put this front and centre. There are hundreds of thousands of Rangers fans in the central belt alone (look at the bears in Manchester). A march to Hampden from Central Station would be some demonstration and a sight to see, bringing hope to all the victims.
Might be a challenge logistically but if you can get 200,000 taking over Manchester, just saying.
As good an idea as it would be, it would be a disasteI had thought about 50,000 marching from Ibrox to Hampden.That would bring it to the attention of world media.
As good an idea as it would be, it would be a disaste
5 different groups trying to be the most important and songs about the Pope and Bobby Sands.
Celtic were forced to try to settle and will look for any way to turn this around in their favour. Celtic help victims despite it not being their fault, Rangers fans sectarian point scoring songs of hate.
You know how this would work.
Would that not make it look like it's only Rangers Fans pushing for itI had thought about 50,000 marching from Ibrox to Hampden.That would bring it to the attention of world media.
Don’t do it on matchday at Ibrox.Would that not make it look like it's only Rangers Fans pushing for it
Would rather a walk and protest to HollyroodDon’t do it on matchday at Ibrox.
No colours of any description, no scarves, no strips, no songs, no football banners.
Banners being used produced by Spotlight only.
“Football fans against Paedophilia” type of thing.
I guess all that would be impractical.
Absolutely.Would rather a walk and protest to Hollyrood
100%Rangers and Ibrox should be kept as far away as possible from this. Regardless of the rights and wrongs, it will be seen as nothing more than point scoring on a sickening subject.
People wanting Rangers to "do something" about this are low.Rangers and Ibrox should be kept as far away as possible from this. Regardless of the rights and wrongs, it will be seen as nothing more than point scoring on a sickening subject.
We will have to agree to disagree on this. I think the Bears have shown remarkable restraint on all of this. There’s a few songs about this, but not any that have got the publicity of the famine song for instance.See things like this dont help at all.
Theres one song wheres sands in mentioned. Thats it. Contrary to belief that lot have far more recognition for him than us despite many on here saying we keep his name alive.
Pope is similar, how many songs mention him?
Wrong place to go on about somgs but your wrong.
Marches by us arent any use though. Its at court so let the victims do what they choose to.
As for how we would be portrayed, who cares? No matter what we do we are slaughtered from every angle in this country.
The Club should make a stand if no sporting sanctions are levied by the SFA against their pet club after all the football authorities did not hold back against us for the actions of a carpet bagger in not paying VAT and the HMRC using us as a test case re the legal use of EBT's etc.
I would suggest refusing to play them and being deducted the three points not as if we would get the chance to win them on field with the standard of anti Rangers refereeing in place as we have witnessed and the decision to install Collum as Head of Refereeing things won't get any better any time soon..
That would then shaft SKY who are no friends of ours anyway with the pro cellic bias silence so the UK can listen to YNWA and kick off only when finished, and as for Sutton......
The fall out/ negative P.R. generated should lead to highlighting the cover up UK/Europe wide in this backwater shithole and hopefully pressure the Government into a Inquiry and action taken against the enablers especially when the Internet/Social Media can tell the truth rather than the 4th Estate saying nothing.
Our standpoint would be parity and is cash more important than childrens' welfare and safety ? Also advise re SFA whitewash of a report investigated by a Peado sympathiser.
Hopefully would show up the hypocrisy of Scottish football fans who were so pious and sanctimonious re our 'crime' and see if they wish to pile on/get involved..
Im not agreeing with any idea of marches etc.We will have to agree to disagree on this. I think the Bears have shown remarkable restraint on all of this. There’s a few songs about this, but not any that have got the publicity of the famine song for instance.
Anything Rangers or Rangers fans did would be pounced upon. Anything pounced upon would be a deflection. Including the idea of a fare trial in Glasgow
Whilst publicity would be good, the logistics and outcome would be a disaster.
Perfect T.Forget about marches ,this isn't about us,it's about the victims of this club and the horrendous crimes against said victims.
Let them have their day in court and hopefully justice is served properly and the proper level of compo paid to them.
Once,it's done and dusted,then scottish clubs can seek retribution via the governing channels.
Hope you're keeping well mate.Perfect T.
As for the 2nd paragraph then you know exactly what we went through trying to bring it to the attention of other clubs fans.
I remember a few down south that were definitely interested and put it on their forums. I spoke to a few of their admin personally.
As for the Scottish clubs? I’ll refrain from speaking my mind on here about what I think of them and their support.
The Club should make a stand if no sporting sanctions are levied by the SFA against their pet club after all the football authorities did not hold back against us for the actions of a carpet bagger in not paying VAT and the HMRC using us as a test case re the legal use of EBT's etc.
I would suggest refusing to play them and being deducted the three points not as if we would get the chance to win them on field with the standard of anti Rangers refereeing in place as we have witnessed and the decision to install Collum as Head of Refereeing things won't get any better any time soon..
That would then shaft SKY who are no friends of ours anyway with the pro cellic bias silence so the UK can listen to YNWA and kick off only when finished, and as for Sutton......
The fall out/ negative P.R. generated should lead to highlighting the cover up UK/Europe wide in this backwater shithole and hopefully pressure the Government into a Inquiry and action taken against the enablers especially when the Internet/Social Media can tell the truth rather than the 4th Estate saying nothing.
Our standpoint would be parity and is cash more important than childrens' welfare and safety ? Also advise re SFA whitewash of a report investigated by a Peado sympathiser.
Hopefully would show up the hypocrisy of Scottish football fans who were so pious and sanctimonious re our 'crime' and see if they wish to pile on/get involved..
Aren't all employees of any club/company that are dealing with children/vulnerable adults Disclosure Scotland vetted anyway nowadays??Whilst there are numerous posts on here demanding/expecting/hoping for sporting sanctions, a large number of other posters don’t feel there will be any, certainly not in the way that we were punished for financial irregularities.
I think the majority of us know that they are never going to be relegated, or as they should be, closed down, but the one sporting sanction that could be imposed is the removal of their youth licence.
I would welcome their youth licence being withdrawn for a period of 3 years to then have them prove they have independently checked the background of every single employee and their suitability to coach youth footballers, both male and female.
If I am correct, UEFA would then remove their European playing licence for that period and that would deprive them of UEFA income and sponsorship associated with playing on that stage.
As other posters have opined, there probably are still some of their youth coaching staff not fit to be trusted and that club would definitely cover it up, especially as part of their defence is the now robust vetting process.
They have always stated the abuse happened in their youth programme so shut down their youth system and protect the children moving forward.
Not just £500k compensation. Legal costs and interest are not included in that. Panic in the Glitterdome.Convicted sex offender Gary Glitter has been ordered to pay at least £508,000 to a victim he abused when she was 12 years old.
A High Court judge ruled that the disgraced pop star - whose real name is Paul Gadd - subjected the claimant "to sexual abuse of the most serious kind".
The rest of this story is on the BBC web site, perhaps the CBC victims may have another avenue for justice.
You are totally correct with that opinion.Aren't all employees of any club/company that are dealing with children/vulnerable adults Disclosure Scotland vetted anyway nowadays??
Those filthy bastards have 9 convicted paedos, makes you wonder how many others have avoided prosecution/conviction.You are totally correct with that opinion.
All it means though, is that they haven’t been caught.
I said this a year or so back and got the singing songs bad etc response.Would rather a walk and protest to Hollyrood
The reality is for anyone other than those attending or watching to know it going to need National and international media coverage which isn’t going to happen if you could get 50,000 attending which is never going to happen either. I know it’s not going to happen but I think okbear is on to something. Removal of their youth licence for two or three years would be a fitting punishment and perhaps one that the rest of Scottish football might go with.I said this a year or so back and got the singing songs bad etc response.
I wanted our wives or girlfriend to march with our kids along with us..No colours no songs in silence filling the whole Royal Mile.
The whole of Scotland, U.K and indeed the world would know and they would be exposed fully.This is and has never been a Rangers fans issue and can never be. It's a human decency issue.