Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

Five years since the first post in this thread , a lot of untiring work from the spotlight team and heart wrenching unfolding stories from victims. The reality is no real appetite to go after and fully expose the club like no other from people of influence.
If only the victims were privileged to the same protection Celtic FC and the brand have received.
Investigating journalists, politicians, boardroom members, ex players/managers, media outlets, sponsors/business partners. Not one prepared to put their head above the parapet?
The greatest cover up is still in full operation to this day , sadly acceptable in today's society.
The Celtic scandal, the whole truth is so shocking no wonder Hugh Keevins and radio Clyde refuse to engage in discussion, puts Penn state and Barry Bennell into perspective.
What type of individual professional or otherwise is happy being associated with them ?
 
Pressure on the football authorities to impose sanctions on this shower of filth must be kept up. There is NO such thing as a god or karma to dispense universal justice.
9 million children under the age of 5 die every year, that’s 17 every minute. Tens of millions of parents and family members desperately praying to whichever god they were indoctrinated to believe in by their parents only to find out there is nobody listening and the universe is totally indifferent to our pain and suffering.
When this latest round of litigation has completed the good and decent people of this country and others should apply unbearable pressure on the SFA and SPFL to take action. I’m not saying it will be easy and straightforward, nothing worthwhile ever is.
A bizarre smear on people of faith this post, Pathfinder.
 
Five years since the first post in this thread , a lot of untiring work from the spotlight team and heart wrenching unfolding stories from victims. The reality is no real appetite to go after and fully expose the club like no other from people of influence.
If only the victims were privileged to the same protection Celtic FC and the brand have received.
Investigating journalists, politicians, boardroom members, ex players/managers, media outlets, sponsors/business partners. Not one prepared to put their head above the parapet?
The greatest cover up is still in full operation to this day , sadly acceptable in today's society.
The Celtic scandal, the whole truth is so shocking no wonder Hugh Keevins and radio Clyde refuse to engage in discussion, puts Penn state and Barry Bennell into perspective.
What type of individual professional or otherwise is happy being associated with them ?
All true Huck, a sad indictment on Scottish society.
 
Five years since the first post in this thread , a lot of untiring work from the spotlight team and heart wrenching unfolding stories from victims. The reality is no real appetite to go after and fully expose the club like no other from people of influence.
If only the victims were privileged to the same protection Celtic FC and the brand have received.
Investigating journalists, politicians, boardroom members, ex players/managers, media outlets, sponsors/business partners. Not one prepared to put their head above the parapet?
The greatest cover up is still in full operation to this day , sadly acceptable in today's society.
The Celtic scandal, the whole truth is so shocking no wonder Hugh Keevins and radio Clyde refuse to engage in discussion, puts Penn state and Barry Bennell into perspective.
What type of individual professional or otherwise is happy being associated with them ?
“Ah jist waant tae support ma club”.
That’s what I get hit with when I ask that question.
I’ve told this one before but I had a heated debate with a brother in law who thought it was years ago and should be left there.
Rangers fans are only vocal because it’s a Celtic thing.
What about our skeletons?
We aren’t so loud when Neely is mentioned.
We’re obsessed with child abuse.
I was red with rage, my sister thought I was going to have an aneurysm!
I calmed a bit and replied.
Firstly, you’re right. It is because it’s Celtic.
That’s because it’s Celtic who are guilty.
Nobody else, Celtic.
And, it’s not because you had a paedo or many paedos working for you.
It’s because you found out about, did nothing about it, other than covering it up.
You protected the guilty, blamed the victims, then tried a separate entity defence.
Neely was binned as soon as we found out about it and the police informed.
One more, I said, would you be so defensive if it were him, pointing to his ten year old son, my nephew, who was a victim.
 
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One of the problems or it may be the one problem the media have with this is that the subject of Child Sexual Abuse is so horrendous that no one wants to touch it. Celtic and the RC Church are so accustomed to being part of it that they don’t really bother about it too much. The whole of Scotland knows about the Dirty Beasts in parishes all over the country and the fact that it spilled over into their favourite and favoured football team is not coincidence.

Thang God for the likes of Gordon Woods and be careful how you go mate as you know how warped the other side is.
Don’t think the issue of media not taking up the issue of child abuse for a documentary is an issue.
In football we’ve had documentaries on Barry Bennell in England and TV personalities in Saville Gary Glitter and Rolf Harris.

I concur with your thoughts on Gordon Woods.
 
Five years since the first post in this thread , a lot of untiring work from the spotlight team and heart wrenching unfolding stories from victims. The reality is no real appetite to go after and fully expose the club like no other from people of influence.
If only the victims were privileged to the same protection Celtic FC and the brand have received.
Investigating journalists, politicians, boardroom members, ex players/managers, media outlets, sponsors/business partners. Not one prepared to put their head above the parapet?
The greatest cover up is still in full operation to this day , sadly acceptable in today's society.
The Celtic scandal, the whole truth is so shocking no wonder Hugh Keevins and radio Clyde refuse to engage in discussion, puts Penn state and Barry Bennell into perspective.
What type of individual professional or otherwise is happy being associated with them ?
Radio Clyde sponsor Celtic FC and are in full knowledge of their boys club scandal.
They have not walked away and as far as I am aware their sponsorship in general has not suffered.

This for me shows the hold this club have on Scottish society.
The sponsors must be more scared of withdrawing sponsorship and the effect on their companies rather than disassociating themselves from a club tainted with the stain of child abuse.

Normally and I’ll use Schofield as an example and you would argue that his history is a lesser example than child abuse and only involved 1 individual that his career went up in smoke including his lucrative advertising deals.
Companies couldn’t disassociate themselves fast enough..

For me just shows the power that deeply degenerate club has in Scotland.
 
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Pressure on the football authorities to impose sanctions on this shower of filth must be kept up. There is NO such thing as a god or karma to dispense universal justice.
9 million children under the age of 5 die every year, that’s 17 every minute. Tens of millions of parents and family members desperately praying to whichever god they were indoctrinated to believe in by their parents only to find out there is nobody listening and the universe is totally indifferent to our pain and suffering.
When this latest round of litigation has completed the good and decent people of this country and others should apply unbearable pressure on the SFA and SPFL to take action. I’m not saying it will be easy and straightforward, nothing worthwhile ever is.
This 9 million figure is correct PF, I’ve heard it described in terms of the death toll of the 2004 Asian tsunami every 10 days affecting only children under the age of 5. A truly breathtaking amount of suffering if you let that sink in.
 
This 9 million figure is correct PF, I’ve heard it described in terms of the death toll of the 2004 Asian tsunami every 10 days affecting only children under the age of 5. A truly breathtaking amount of suffering if you let that sink in.
We’re definitely on our own Dado and all the wishful thinking in the world won’t change that. No supernatural being looking over us, certainly not one worthy of any praise or devotion.
Push for punishment in this life and don’t rely on the hereafter.
 
Arguing with a pape on X about the compensation for the abuse survivors & hes said this.
They really aren't well.

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I would imagine the real numbers for celtic will be similar to

£40m all in for CL
£15-18m for ORiley if they're lucky

£6-7m compensation
A small hit in their sponsorship because of this
£6m Idah
6m Bernardo

As for Frimpong he's not exactly at a stepping stone club. They've just won the Bundesliga and are playing in the CL. Why would he be going anywhere?

Add the training ground to that and I'm not sure they're all that much better placed than last year
 
Five years since the first post in this thread , a lot of untiring work from the spotlight team and heart wrenching unfolding stories from victims. The reality is no real appetite to go after and fully expose the club like no other from people of influence.
If only the victims were privileged to the same protection Celtic FC and the brand have received.
Investigating journalists, politicians, boardroom members, ex players/managers, media outlets, sponsors/business partners. Not one prepared to put their head above the parapet?
The greatest cover up is still in full operation to this day , sadly acceptable in today's society.
The Celtic scandal, the whole truth is so shocking no wonder Hugh Keevins and radio Clyde refuse to engage in discussion, puts Penn state and Barry Bennell into perspective.
What type of individual professional or otherwise is happy being associated with them ?
Cap doffed, great post mate
 
I would imagine the real numbers for celtic will be similar to

£40m all in for CL
£15-18m for ORiley if they're lucky

£6-7m compensation
A small hit in their sponsorship because of this
£6m Idah
6m Bernardo

As for Frimpong he's not exactly at a stepping stone club. They've just won the Bundesliga and are playing in the CL. Why would he be going anywhere?

Add the training ground to that and I'm not sure they're all that much better placed than last year
The figure Celtic won’t reveal is what is the cost in legal fees, That number will be much bigger than the compensation payout.
They will have to meet their own lawyers fees, and also those of the claimants in these sort of actions.
By my guess if they pay out 9 million in compensation, they’ll probably have double that and a bit more in legal fees.
I’ve been involved in the calculation of legal fees in class actions, and no win no fees.
They are always bigger than the compensation awards.
As ever, the lawyers are the only winners.
 
Radio Clyde sponsor Celtic FC and are in full knowledge of their boys club scandal.
They have not walked away and as far as I am aware their sponsorship in general has not suffered.

This for me shows the hold this club have on Scottish society.
The sponsors must be more scared of withdrawing sponsorship and the effect on their companies rather than disassociating themselves from a club tainted with the stain of child abuse.

Normally and I’ll use Schofield as an example and you would argue that his history is a lesser example than child abuse and only involved 1 individual that his career went up in smoke including his lucrative advertising deals.
Companies couldn’t disassociate themselves fast enough..

For me just shows the power that deeply degenerate club has in Scotland.
The hold they have on all aspects of media, politicians, some say judiciary and our footballing bodies in this country has helped them partially bury this scandal. They will continue to deny and deflect with very little criticism from the parties mentioned above.

I can't help but think that it will be down to the Rangers support to put this front and centre. There are hundreds of thousands of Rangers fans in the central belt alone (look at the bears in Manchester). A march to Hampden from Central Station would be some demonstration and a sight to see, bringing hope to all the victims.

Might be a challenge logistically but if you can get 200,000 taking over Manchester, just saying.
 
The hold they have on all aspects of media, politicians, some say judiciary and our footballing bodies in this country has helped them partially bury this scandal. They will continue to deny and deflect with very little criticism from the parties mentioned above.

I can't help but think that it will be down to the Rangers support to put this front and centre. There are hundreds of thousands of Rangers fans in the central belt alone (look at the bears in Manchester). A march to Hampden from Central Station would be some demonstration and a sight to see, bringing hope to all the victims.

Might be a challenge logistically but if you can get 200,000 taking over Manchester, just saying.
While I concur with the sentiment you can visualise the headlines.
Put it this way it wouldn’t be about supporters bringing out into the open a grievous child abuse scandal involving a Scottish Football Club.
It would be about Rangers bigoted fans marching as a mob urinating on the public streets of Glasgow and ensuing violence and vandalism.
Politicians in their droves would come out and denegrate Rangers and the behaviour of their supporters.
We can’t tolerate this behaviour on the streets of Glasgow.
 
While I concur with the sentiment you can visualise the headlines.
Put it this way it wouldn’t be about supporters bringing out into the open a grievous child abuse scandal involving a Scottish Football Club.
It would be about Rangers bigoted fans marching as a mob urinating on the public streets of Glasgow and ensuing violence and vandalism.
Politicians in their droves would come out and denegrate Rangers and the behaviour of their supporters.
We can’t tolerate this behaviour on the streets of Glasgow.
I was kind of thinking of a march, policed by our own people along with plod.
 
Five years since the first post in this thread , a lot of untiring work from the spotlight team and heart wrenching unfolding stories from victims. The reality is no real appetite to go after and fully expose the club like no other from people of influence.
If only the victims were privileged to the same protection Celtic FC and the brand have received.
Investigating journalists, politicians, boardroom members, ex players/managers, media outlets, sponsors/business partners. Not one prepared to put their head above the parapet?
The greatest cover up is still in full operation to this day , sadly acceptable in today's society.
The Celtic scandal, the whole truth is so shocking no wonder Hugh Keevins and radio Clyde refuse to engage in discussion, puts Penn state and Barry Bennell into perspective.
What type of individual professional or otherwise is happy being associated with them ?
The fact they started negotiating day after Bennell died was curious to me

And although could be coincidence in not so sure
 
I was kind of thinking of a march, policed by our own people along with plod.
In my view perhaps under the banner of Spotlight and online petition could be conducted requesting a full public enquiry into child abuse in Scottish Football.
There are a couple of MP’s I believe who would be supportive and they should be counselled.

My understanding is if 100,000 signatories sign a petition this enables the matter to be considered for discussion in the Commons.

This approach would have the advantage of removing the bigot charge aimed at our supporters which would attach to it and also as more generic could not be labelled as an attack on one club.
I was kind of thinking of a march, policed by our own people along with plod.
Howabout an online petition under the banner of Spotlight requesting a Public Enquiry into abuse of children at Scottish Football Clubs.
This reduces the insinuation that this is organised by bigots with an agenda.

I believe that there are MP’s who would support the concept.
In addition I understand that if a petition has 100,000 signatories this enables the matter to be discussed at the House Of Commons.
This would reduce the influence of politicians in Scotland with an agenda to suppress the matter.

Just a thought.
 
In my view perhaps under the banner of Spotlight and online petition could be conducted requesting a full public enquiry into child abuse in Scottish Football.
There are a couple of MP’s I believe who would be supportive and they should be counselled.

My understanding is if 100,000 signatories sign a petition this enables the matter to be considered for discussion in the Commons.

This approach would have the advantage of removing the bigot charge aimed at our supporters which would attach to it and also as more generic could not be labelled as an attack on one club.

Howabout an online petition under the banner of Spotlight requesting a Public Enquiry into abuse of children at Scottish Football Clubs.
This reduces the insinuation that this is organised by bigots with an agenda.

I believe that there are MP’s who would support the concept.
In addition I understand that if a petition has 100,000 signatories this enables the matter to be discussed at the House Of Commons.
This would reduce the influence of politicians in Scotland with an agenda to suppress the matter.

Just a thought.
Could be the way to GOG. Good points made there.
 
The hold they have on all aspects of media, politicians, some say judiciary and our footballing bodies in this country has helped them partially bury this scandal. They will continue to deny and deflect with very little criticism from the parties mentioned above.

I can't help but think that it will be down to the Rangers support to put this front and centre. There are hundreds of thousands of Rangers fans in the central belt alone (look at the bears in Manchester). A march to Hampden from Central Station would be some demonstration and a sight to see, bringing hope to all the victims.

Might be a challenge logistically but if you can get 200,000 taking over Manchester, just saying.
I had thought about 50,000 marching from Ibrox to Hampden.That would bring it to the attention of world media.
 
I had thought about 50,000 marching from Ibrox to Hampden.That would bring it to the attention of world media.
As good an idea as it would be, it would be a disaste

5 different groups trying to be the most important and songs about the Pope and Bobby Sands.

Celtic were forced to try to settle and will look for any way to turn this around in their favour. Celtic help victims despite it not being their fault, Rangers fans sectarian point scoring songs of hate.

You know how this would work.
 
As good an idea as it would be, it would be a disaste

5 different groups trying to be the most important and songs about the Pope and Bobby Sands.

Celtic were forced to try to settle and will look for any way to turn this around in their favour. Celtic help victims despite it not being their fault, Rangers fans sectarian point scoring songs of hate.

You know how this would work.

See things like this dont help at all.

Theres one song wheres sands in mentioned. Thats it. Contrary to belief that lot have far more recognition for him than us despite many on here saying we keep his name alive.

Pope is similar, how many songs mention him?

Wrong place to go on about somgs but your wrong.

Marches by us arent any use though. Its at court so let the victims do what they choose to.

As for how we would be portrayed, who cares? No matter what we do we are slaughtered from every angle in this country.
 
Don’t do it on matchday at Ibrox.
No colours of any description, no scarves, no strips, no songs, no football banners.
Banners being used produced by Spotlight only.
“Football fans against Paedophilia” type of thing.
I guess all that would be impractical.
Would rather a walk and protest to Hollyrood
 
See things like this dont help at all.

Theres one song wheres sands in mentioned. Thats it. Contrary to belief that lot have far more recognition for him than us despite many on here saying we keep his name alive.

Pope is similar, how many songs mention him?

Wrong place to go on about somgs but your wrong.

Marches by us arent any use though. Its at court so let the victims do what they choose to.

As for how we would be portrayed, who cares? No matter what we do we are slaughtered from every angle in this country.
We will have to agree to disagree on this. I think the Bears have shown remarkable restraint on all of this. There’s a few songs about this, but not any that have got the publicity of the famine song for instance.

Anything Rangers or Rangers fans did would be pounced upon. Anything pounced upon would be a deflection. Including the idea of a fare trial in Glasgow

Whilst publicity would be good, the logistics and outcome would be a disaster.
 
The Club should make a stand if no sporting sanctions are levied by the SFA against their pet club after all the football authorities did not hold back against us for the actions of a carpet bagger in not paying VAT and the HMRC using us as a test case re the legal use of EBT's etc.
I would suggest refusing to play them and being deducted the three points not as if we would get the chance to win them on field with the standard of anti Rangers refereeing in place as we have witnessed and the decision to install Collum as Head of Refereeing things won't get any better any time soon..
That would then shaft SKY who are no friends of ours anyway with the pro cellic bias silence so the UK can listen to YNWA and kick off only when finished, and as for Sutton......
The fall out/ negative P.R. generated should lead to highlighting the cover up UK/Europe wide in this backwater shithole and hopefully pressure the Government into a Inquiry and action taken against the enablers especially when the Internet/Social Media can tell the truth rather than the 4th Estate saying nothing.
Our standpoint would be parity and is cash more important than childrens' welfare and safety ? Also advise re SFA whitewash of a report investigated by a Peado sympathiser.
Hopefully would show up the hypocrisy of Scottish football fans who were so pious and sanctimonious re our 'crime' and see if they wish to pile on/get involved..
 
The Club should make a stand if no sporting sanctions are levied by the SFA against their pet club after all the football authorities did not hold back against us for the actions of a carpet bagger in not paying VAT and the HMRC using us as a test case re the legal use of EBT's etc.
I would suggest refusing to play them and being deducted the three points not as if we would get the chance to win them on field with the standard of anti Rangers refereeing in place as we have witnessed and the decision to install Collum as Head of Refereeing things won't get any better any time soon..
That would then shaft SKY who are no friends of ours anyway with the pro cellic bias silence so the UK can listen to YNWA and kick off only when finished, and as for Sutton......
The fall out/ negative P.R. generated should lead to highlighting the cover up UK/Europe wide in this backwater shithole and hopefully pressure the Government into a Inquiry and action taken against the enablers especially when the Internet/Social Media can tell the truth rather than the 4th Estate saying nothing.
Our standpoint would be parity and is cash more important than childrens' welfare and safety ? Also advise re SFA whitewash of a report investigated by a Peado sympathiser.
Hopefully would show up the hypocrisy of Scottish football fans who were so pious and sanctimonious re our 'crime' and see if they wish to pile on/get involved..

Just imagime if ALL the clubs took a stand and refused to play or entertain them.

That would bring it right to the fore
 
We will have to agree to disagree on this. I think the Bears have shown remarkable restraint on all of this. There’s a few songs about this, but not any that have got the publicity of the famine song for instance.

Anything Rangers or Rangers fans did would be pounced upon. Anything pounced upon would be a deflection. Including the idea of a fare trial in Glasgow

Whilst publicity would be good, the logistics and outcome would be a disaster.
Im not agreeing with any idea of marches etc.
 
Forget about marches ,this isn't about us,it's about the victims of this club and the horrendous crimes against said victims.
Let them have their day in court and hopefully justice is served properly and the proper level of compo paid to them.

Once,it's done and dusted,then scottish clubs can seek retribution via the governing channels.
Perfect T.
As for the 2nd paragraph then you know exactly what we went through trying to bring it to the attention of other clubs fans.
I remember a few down south that were definitely interested and put it on their forums. I spoke to a few of their admin personally.
As for the Scottish clubs? I’ll refrain from speaking my mind on here about what I think of them and their support.
 
Perfect T.
As for the 2nd paragraph then you know exactly what we went through trying to bring it to the attention of other clubs fans.
I remember a few down south that were definitely interested and put it on their forums. I spoke to a few of their admin personally.
As for the Scottish clubs? I’ll refrain from speaking my mind on here about what I think of them and their support.
Hope you're keeping well mate.
 
The Club should make a stand if no sporting sanctions are levied by the SFA against their pet club after all the football authorities did not hold back against us for the actions of a carpet bagger in not paying VAT and the HMRC using us as a test case re the legal use of EBT's etc.
I would suggest refusing to play them and being deducted the three points not as if we would get the chance to win them on field with the standard of anti Rangers refereeing in place as we have witnessed and the decision to install Collum as Head of Refereeing things won't get any better any time soon..
That would then shaft SKY who are no friends of ours anyway with the pro cellic bias silence so the UK can listen to YNWA and kick off only when finished, and as for Sutton......
The fall out/ negative P.R. generated should lead to highlighting the cover up UK/Europe wide in this backwater shithole and hopefully pressure the Government into a Inquiry and action taken against the enablers especially when the Internet/Social Media can tell the truth rather than the 4th Estate saying nothing.
Our standpoint would be parity and is cash more important than childrens' welfare and safety ? Also advise re SFA whitewash of a report investigated by a Peado sympathiser.
Hopefully would show up the hypocrisy of Scottish football fans who were so pious and sanctimonious re our 'crime' and see if they wish to pile on/get involved..

We should definitely be refusing to play the youth teams.

It's more probable than not that there are still sex offenders working at Celtic FC. The last conviction was since the farce of the SFA enquiry.

What is 100% is that if another member of the Celtic staff is caught abusing children, the current board (like all Celtic boards for at least half a century), would rather allow the abuser to continue working with children over acting and tarnishing the good name of Celtic.

Absolutely disgusting to think that an organisation like Celtic runs sports teams for under 10s.
 
Whilst there are numerous posts on here demanding/expecting/hoping for sporting sanctions, a large number of other posters don’t feel there will be any, certainly not in the way that we were punished for financial irregularities.

I think the majority of us know that they are never going to be relegated, or as they should be, closed down, but the one sporting sanction that could be imposed is the removal of their youth licence.

I would welcome their youth licence being withdrawn for a period of 3 years to then have them prove they have independently checked the background of every single employee and their suitability to coach youth footballers, both male and female.

If I am correct, UEFA would then remove their European playing licence for that period and that would deprive them of UEFA income and sponsorship associated with playing on that stage.

As other posters have opined, there probably are still some of their youth coaching staff not fit to be trusted and that club would definitely cover it up, especially as part of their defence is the now robust vetting process.

They have always stated the abuse happened in their youth programme so shut down their youth system and protect the children moving forward.
 
Convicted sex offender Gary Glitter has been ordered to pay at least £508,000 to a victim he abused when she was 12 years old.

A High Court judge ruled that the disgraced pop star - whose real name is Paul Gadd - subjected the claimant "to sexual abuse of the most serious kind".
The rest of this story is on the BBC web site, perhaps the CBC victims may have another avenue for justice.
 
Whilst there are numerous posts on here demanding/expecting/hoping for sporting sanctions, a large number of other posters don’t feel there will be any, certainly not in the way that we were punished for financial irregularities.

I think the majority of us know that they are never going to be relegated, or as they should be, closed down, but the one sporting sanction that could be imposed is the removal of their youth licence.

I would welcome their youth licence being withdrawn for a period of 3 years to then have them prove they have independently checked the background of every single employee and their suitability to coach youth footballers, both male and female.

If I am correct, UEFA would then remove their European playing licence for that period and that would deprive them of UEFA income and sponsorship associated with playing on that stage.

As other posters have opined, there probably are still some of their youth coaching staff not fit to be trusted and that club would definitely cover it up, especially as part of their defence is the now robust vetting process.

They have always stated the abuse happened in their youth programme so shut down their youth system and protect the children moving forward.
Aren't all employees of any club/company that are dealing with children/vulnerable adults Disclosure Scotland vetted anyway nowadays??
 
Convicted sex offender Gary Glitter has been ordered to pay at least £508,000 to a victim he abused when she was 12 years old.

A High Court judge ruled that the disgraced pop star - whose real name is Paul Gadd - subjected the claimant "to sexual abuse of the most serious kind".
The rest of this story is on the BBC web site, perhaps the CBC victims may have another avenue for justice.
Not just £500k compensation. Legal costs and interest are not included in that. Panic in the Glitterdome.
 
The civil and footballing authorities in Scotland seem to treat child abuse and Peadophilia as a low level harmless crime,
Everybody in the country now know what has happened at the shitpit, Police Scotland,Holyrood,SFA and the SPL know about the crimes and subsequent decades of denial and cover up what are they waiting for.
 
Would rather a walk and protest to Hollyrood
I said this a year or so back and got the singing songs bad etc response.
I wanted our wives or girlfriend to march with our kids along with us..No colours no songs in silence filling the whole Royal Mile.
The whole of Scotland, U.K and indeed the world would know and they would be exposed fully.This is and has never been a Rangers fans issue and can never be. It's a human decency issue.
 
I said this a year or so back and got the singing songs bad etc response.
I wanted our wives or girlfriend to march with our kids along with us..No colours no songs in silence filling the whole Royal Mile.
The whole of Scotland, U.K and indeed the world would know and they would be exposed fully.This is and has never been a Rangers fans issue and can never be. It's a human decency issue.
The reality is for anyone other than those attending or watching to know it going to need National and international media coverage which isn’t going to happen if you could get 50,000 attending which is never going to happen either. I know it’s not going to happen but I think okbear is on to something. Removal of their youth licence for two or three years would be a fitting punishment and perhaps one that the rest of Scottish football might go with.
 
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