This is utterly bizarre
Saville must have done his homework and felt very safe coming up here to join people with the same interests as himself who are untouchable.This is utterly bizarre
Are we stuck in some kind of absurd alternative reality
What the hell
There is no cure
They are at high risk of re-offending
Sentencing for such crimes is ridiculiously lenient
This country has gone to the dogs
First of all we wish this abuse had never happened. That would be the end of it.
It did happen, and the perpetrators of the crimes have to be punished. Some of them have, although in some cases leniently.
The victims have to be compensated. Both in terms of support and restitution for the misery they have suffered during their lives.
The corporate responsibility is Celtic’s, and they have to be punished for their failure to offer a duty of care. A duty of care to children and young people in their charge.
Did Celtic benefit from the Boy’s club? Did they revel in the Boy’s Club’s success? Did they benefit from a flow of young players that didn’t cost them a penny? Did they receive transfer fees for players who came through their Boy’s Club system?
Yes, Celtic benefited from the Boy’s Club and sexually abused them at the same time. An utterly abhorrent situation.
Should Celtic therefore receive a sporting punishment? Remember another club was prosecuted, for issuing side letters, and failing to investigate the suitability of an employee tax scheme. Their proposed punishment was the stripping of titles. A sporting punishment.
Should Celtic receive a sporting punishment ?
S cottish N once P artyQuality BN94.
Scotland is now a haven for paedophiles.
Does anyone know if Gordon has submitted a Data Subject of Access Request (DSAR) to the Scottish government/parliament? The emails referencing him might make interesting reading.
Even that headline should be enough.
Then
The fact they had a strategy of an international wide (including Ireland) network of Boys Clubs and that this network was created, led by Celtic FC and incorporated and integrated into its own football structure (especially in the area of coaching where the abuse mainly happened) demonstrates they are either the same entity or entities entirely dependant on their integration with Celtic FC. It is the clear management, coaching and football connection to Celtic FC that makes Celtic culpable for how these clubs were run and the welfare of the children. Even if there was a separate legal entity they actually knew the abuse was happening and concealed it and they let it continue because they benefitted from covering up the abuse both in terms of reputation and a flow of top talent. They benefitted financially from this cover up.
Was listening to a Podcast during the week , Where is George Gibney , 10 part produced by the BBC surrounding child abuse in Irish swimming , 3-4 of the coaches uncovered , the parallels with the Celtic case is unreal .
Shutting them down would be the correct thing to do.Don't understand the strip the titles bit. Seems to me like that's just an open goal for scumbags to deflect and twist our motives in trying to expose this.
The last paragraph on 2/2 is leading....do the kearny /hudson county really want to know what happened 30yrs previously?.
You're absolutely correct. It's about justice and compensation for God knows how many victims. But once these aims have been achieved and the facts regarding Celtic's complicity are laid bare before the world then the SFA will be compelled to act. Because " bringing the game into disrepute" doesn't come close to describing their crimes. And the only sanctions open to the SFA are footballing ones. So when the time is right - and only then - it will.need to be dealt with.It's nothing to do with trophies!
They still haven't said anything about their recent (2019?) investigation into historic child abuse at their club. Why there wasnt immediate government and police interest when Lawell announced that is disgusting and simply disgraceful. The media silence over this as well is horrific.
If Celtic fc and Celtic boys club are 'seperate entities' why is the general manager of Celtic boys club 1974 - 1991 sending his resignation letter to the chief executive of Celtic fc and why is the chief executive of Celtic fc commenting on the resignation of an official of an organisation that is a 'seperate entity' from Celtic fc.........
They still haven't said anything about their recent (2019?) investigation into historic child abuse at their club. Why there wasnt immediate government and police interest when Lawell announced that is disgusting and simply disgraceful. The media silence over this as well is horrific.
Only in Scotland, and only at that club, would it be possible to do your own internal enquiry into CSA as the Police and Government sit idly bye.They still haven't said anything about their recent (2019?) investigation into historic child abuse at their club. Why there wasnt immediate government and police interest when Lawell announced that is disgusting and simply disgraceful. The media silence over this as well is horrific.
Correct , Scotland has become more corrupt than a Nigerian electionThe control and collusion they have with the media, SFA/SPFL and government to limit the public exposure isn't done with the CEO having any concern over his/her credibility or even legality.
When this is exposed it will not just be damning of that bastardised football team.
Even today the welfare of now adults that had to endure one of the most heinous crimes as children is put secondary to the standing and reputation of a f-ing football club. I'm a football fan but for f-sake that is sickening. Our country isn't normal.
They say if you want the truth then follow the money, and I think that will play a part in their downfall.
Who was paying the abusers for their work at CBC? Because they were not doing it for free. Was it cash in hand as well? Going by the way Celtic operated at the time, you would expect so. Also, who funded the trips, equipment, strips, etc? Did Celtic charge the Boys Club for any use of facilities?
Andy Ritchie is on record as stating that Celtic, via Tommy Burns, offered him £100 a week to come and revamp the Boys Club. That does not sound like a “separate entity”, not when the club are paying a coach to work with the Boys Club.
If the police have done proper questioning over the years, then all these things should already be on record. Be interesting if Thompsons have done their homework in that regard.
It's looking more likely that Gerry McSherry was correct with the number of fourteen individuals who committed these crimes. Horrific.
The 'biscuit tin' and no audit trails allows them to try and effect plausible deniability...I think you’ve touched on a tactic they’ll use D.
We’re these guys being paid cash in hand & thereby there are no payroll records ?
The 'biscuit tin' and no audit trails allows them to try and effect plausible deniability...
Very sinister this Bheast was connected with so many different boys clubs before he joined CFC and worked with their boys club
McCafferty also worked at Hibs and Falkirk and left under suspicious circumstances
The death of CBC player Lawrence Haggart who McCafferty called the family home on the day of the young boys murder needs reopened given the convicted individual maintains his innocence to this day
You just know the cover ups and silence from SNP, PS, SFA and SPL Crown Office and vast majority of the complicit mhedia is coordinated by one institution - the Roman Catholic Church and their tentacles is written all over this scandal
Thompsons are saying child abuse on industrial scale and yet these vile bastards are still trying to cover up and suppress the truth
What a sick country Scotland is becoming.
A padeos Paradise and we all know what the vermin like to call Parkpaed don’t we !!