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That's awesome. Absolutely brilliant.
The word certainly seems to be getting through to those who'll listen in the UK, Europe and elsewhere.
Tick-Tock-Timmy
Gavin's gonny love you Tommy, I enjoyed reading that.sent to gavin newlands today
Dear Gavin,
Or should it be the laird of coopats,rather than coocaddens, after your embarrassing nationalist efforts in Westminster,when you took upon yourself,the role of choirmaster for your bunch of charlatans in your wee thingumyjig party?.
However,nice to see you have finally made it to Westminster and as such,I need to ask the question,which I have asked you many times over the past months....DID YOU RAISE MY REQUEST FOR A FULL AND INDEPEMNDENT PUBLIC INQUIRY INTO THE HISTORIC SEX ABUSE CRIMES AT GLASGOW CELTIC FC?.....and if not,why not ? ,as you are my elected Westminster MP and you proclaim in your recent political flyer, that you are my “VOICE IN WESTMINSTER” and I have repeatedly asked you do so on my behalf....or do your skills only stretch to trying to make a complete fool of yourself and your country when in Westminster, sorry, edit that, you didn’t try...you did make a fool of yourself and your country.
So,assuming that you failed yet again, to raise my request for a full and independent inquiry into the sex abuse scandal at your club ,Glasgow celtic fc ,can you now provide me with the email address of the person in government, who deals with complaints from the public regarding their MP’s and their lack of competence and ignorance of requests for action and failure to do the job they are elected and paid to do?.
I also note, that your party now have connections to a consultant NEIL WATT of hacking & Patterson ,who openly moves assets belonging to a known convicted paedophile FRANK CAIRNEY to himself and then proclaims that he is willing to then let this sexual deviant live there rent free , if and when he gets out of jail....this guy , is a man who your party turn to for advice?,speaks volumes about your party and it’s cover ups and ignorance in dealing with this historic sexual abuse scandal ,hopefully more of the SNP’s little secrets will be revealed in time,when all the skeletons in your cupboards come tumbling out ,once a public inquiry is made into your party and it’s connections to paedophilia and Glasgow celtic fc,of which I and others are certain of,just a matter of time .
I look forward to your reply
Some will be aware reference a previous post that we contacted forums in the UK and further afield. I think we’re starting to see the evidence now that football supporters are taking notice.That's awesome. Absolutely brilliant.
The word certainly seems to be getting through to those who'll listen in the UK, Europe and elsewhere.
Tick-Tock-Timmy
I'm liking that, theres got to be nowhere to hide for Celtic when justice is served .That's awesome. Absolutely brilliant.
The word certainly seems to be getting through to those who'll listen in the UK, Europe and elsewhere.
Tick-Tock-Timmy
Brilliant BN94Some will be aware reference a previous post that we contacted forums in the UK and further afield. I think we’re starting to see the evidence now that football supporters are taking notice.
Yeah, I knew about Neely but not Dunn. Thanks.In short..
Neely worked for Hibs and Rangers were after him
Chairman of Hibs found out about his behaviour towards young boys at the club and decided to release him but didn't reveal the real reason to " Protect the Good Name of Hibs"
Said Chairman and probably others at Hibs then watched him walk into a job at Ibrox and said nothing about him being a bheast
Neely then made an inappropriate comment to a minor who told his dad a serving policeman who went to Ibrox with the complaint and Neely was brought in and was sacked...
Fully agree with bluenose94 that the next local Scottish and or general elections will be the most important in our lifetimes. The apathy shown by a number of people in Scotland ( and I include myself ) has led to the nationalist/catholic vote working to theirFor us bears who now live down south they are a disgrace. They dress in their tartan and make daily racist remarks against the English. Some English are let’s say small minded and class us all the same as this rabble.
Since this lot got into power I’ve found myself frequently having to educate people down here that we’re not all like this. They are a complete embarrassment. Every bear has to come out in Scotland and vote tactically to get this lot out.
They have let the IRA back onto our streets and openly share the same views as Sinn Fein. They have let down people in our society for the sake of votes.
We must come out and vote. This next election will be one of the most important elections in years imo. The fear I have if they stay in power is that fire will have to be fought with fire. This is a path that the SNP will take us down if they gain power again. I’m convinced of that.
Hi , eh47 thanks for your feedback and I totally agree this has to be kept on thread regarding the club like no other , CSA and Compensation for victims. I did not however accidentally introduce Hitchens as you suggested. He was sent death threats right up to the day before he died of cancer. My raison d’etre is to acknowledge the tremendous efforts put in by everyone on this forum to put these monsters firmly in there place . Hitchens exposed the cabal of the Vatican through diligent graft , years of investigated research , dogged determination and courage . I was merely trying to show that using this man’s techniques may not be a bad idea in the pursuit of truth. The similarities between the cabal of the Vatican and the cabal within the club like no other are unsettling , uncanny and horrifying. The Mantra has always been DEFLECT and DENY. I Too was subjected to sexual abuse aged 13 . It has taken me many years to even be able to discuss it openly with anyone. I have never fully recovered from the scars but I have had some wonderful counselling and have been able to move on in my life.This thread is getting somewhat derailed by deviating into talk of Hitchens, nazis, etc.
Hopefully it's accidental .
MUT, I commend you for the work you have obviously done and empathize with your experiences as a wee bairn. While not sexually abused, as far as I can recall, I had pretty severe mental and physical abuse all the way up until I was bigger than him. This thread and some current family dynamics has brought this all back up again for me. I say this not for any pity or anything other to convey information I am finding.Fully agree with bluenose94 that the next local Scottish and or general elections will be the most important in our lifetimes. The apathy shown by a number of people in Scotland ( and I include myself ) has led to the nationalist/catholic vote working to their
Hi , eh47 thanks for your feedback and I totally agree this has to be kept on thread regarding the club like no other , CSA and Compensation for victims. I did not however accidentally introduce Hitchens as you suggested. He was sent death threats right up to the day before he died of cancer. My raison d’etre is to acknowledge the tremendous efforts put in by everyone on this forum to put these monsters firmly in there place . Hitchens exposed the cabal of the Vatican through diligent graft , years of investigated research , dogged determination and courage . I was merely trying to show that using this man’s techniques may not be a bad idea in the pursuit of truth. The similarities between the cabal of the Vatican and the cabal within the club like no other are unsettling , uncanny and horrifying. The Mantra has always been DEFLECT and DENY. I Too was subjected to sexual abuse aged 13 . It has taken me many years to even be able to discuss it openly with anyone. I have never fully recovered from the scars but I have had some wonderful counselling and have been able to move on in my life.
I genuinely hope the victims of these abhorrent crimes get the closure I craved for and finally received.
Both absolutely correct. Yet another example of the club's lack of leadership.
Give the club the CEO it needs, Mr. King. We need professional management.
Whatever happened ro the poster who was on this thread quite some time ago asking to be updated and/or reminded of all the facts, scenarios, inside info, gossip, anecdotes, etc, etc. so that he could collate it it all for some dossier or other?
I agree it would be difficult, Tags, but we are being purposefully grouped with the pederast protectors and our passive stance is condoning it. We continually refuse to accept the realities.Not sure I agree with the comments regarding this case(not the part about getting a CEO), no company would commit to compensation for something that they knew nothing about, there was no complaint made at the time, the alleged accused is dead and never faced any convictions or charges whilst alive.
They’d be opening themselves up to all sorts of liabilities and potentially bogus claims.
Its way different from what happened/is happening at Celtics boys club due to convictions and re-employment of a guy they sacked for abuse.
I think he got a job at HolicommWhatever happened ro the poster who was on this thread quite some time ago asking to be updated and/or reminded of all the facts, scenarios, inside info, gossip, anecdotes, etc, etc. so that he could collate it it all for some dossier or other?
MUT, I commend you for the work you have obviously done and empathize with your experiences as a wee bairn. While not sexually abused, as far as I can recall, I had pretty severe mental and physical abuse all the way up until I was bigger than him. This thread and some current family dynamics has brought this all back up again for me. I say this not for any pity or anything other to convey information I am finding.
From what I have learned, people that have been abused basically suffer from PTSD. I have found this great podcast that discusses it: "Life after PTSD". They describe it as an injury and not a disease. Which opens up the prospect of healing; a very much desired result!
They talk about RTM treatment. Here is a link to some information you and others may find valuable:
American Thinker Article
Outstanding T.sent to gavin newlands today
Dear Gavin,
Or should it be the laird of coopats,rather than coocaddens, after your embarrassing nationalist efforts in Westminster,when you took upon yourself,the role of choirmaster for your bunch of charlatans in your wee thingumyjig party?.
However,nice to see you have finally made it to Westminster and as such,I need to ask the question,which I have asked you many times over the past months....DID YOU RAISE MY REQUEST FOR A FULL AND INDEPEMNDENT PUBLIC INQUIRY INTO THE HISTORIC SEX ABUSE CRIMES AT GLASGOW CELTIC FC?.....and if not,why not ? ,as you are my elected Westminster MP and you proclaim in your recent political flyer, that you are my “VOICE IN WESTMINSTER” and I have repeatedly asked you do so on my behalf....or do your skills only stretch to trying to make a complete fool of yourself and your country when in Westminster, sorry, edit that, you didn’t try...you did make a fool of yourself and your country.
So,assuming that you failed yet again, to raise my request for a full and independent inquiry into the sex abuse scandal at your club ,Glasgow celtic fc ,can you now provide me with the email address of the person in government, who deals with complaints from the public regarding their MP’s and their lack of competence and ignorance of requests for action and failure to do the job they are elected and paid to do?.
I also note, that your party now have connections to a consultant NEIL WATT of hacking & Patterson ,who openly moves assets belonging to a known convicted paedophile FRANK CAIRNEY to himself and then proclaims that he is willing to then let this sexual deviant live there rent free , if and when he gets out of jail....this guy , is a man who your party turn to for advice?,speaks volumes about your party and it’s cover ups and ignorance in dealing with this historic sexual abuse scandal ,hopefully more of the SNP’s little secrets will be revealed in time,when all the skeletons in your cupboards come tumbling out ,once a public inquiry is made into your party and it’s connections to paedophilia and Glasgow celtic fc,of which I and others are certain of,just a matter of time .
I look forward to your reply
Reply to LSE following their useless reply which i posted yesterday
Hi thank you for the reply,
You haven't really answered my query, which was, have Celtic f.c. broken L.S.E. rules by failing to disclose a 2 year internal secret inquiry regarding the systematic sexual abuse of boys which in turn would affect share price and potential for new/existing investors?
i would be most grateful for your answer to the above question.
Yours sincerely
R.K.
Another useless reply today
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Which is exactly what I said in the second paragraph:It’s not a disease or disorder mate and suffer due to my military experiences.
My therapist always tells me it’s pts and the D should be dropped.
Sorry for slight disrail can just understand how this poster will be struggling even letting the thoughts back out the door.
Chubby brown or earl something or other?Whatever happened ro the poster who was on this thread quite some time ago asking to be updated and/or reminded of all the facts, scenarios, inside info, gossip, anecdotes, etc, etc. so that he could collate it it all for some dossier or other?
Whatever happened ro the poster who was on this thread quite some time ago asking to be updated and/or reminded of all the facts, scenarios, inside info, gossip, anecdotes, etc, etc. so that he could collate it it all for some dossier or other?
I think he got a job at Holicomm
He was a nonce.
He worked for Dundee Utd,then Hibs were he was caught abusing and Hibs covered it up and basically passed him onto us.He was with us a couple of years before we were made aware what he was and we promptly sacked him and informed the police.Unfortunatly it looks like he abused a couple of boys whilst with us hence why there’s a couple of claims in.Their possibly might be another due to a scout called Harry Dunn.Again,the club had no knowledge of what he was or what he was doing and none of their victims to my knowledge are accusing Rangers of any wrongdoing or cover up.Due to legalities of the club now being owned by NewCo,I think we’ve directed one of the victims towards the liquidators of OldCo which I find quite poor imo.I get that legalities come in but we should find a way to compensate.We’ve got nothing to hide and haven’t been accused of anything so it would be could to see us lead by example unlike that peado harbouring abortion of a club across the city.
Chubby brown or earl something or other?
Boom!!!!!Email sent to U.E.F.A.
To:patrick.gasser@uefa.ch
11 Sep at 14:23
Dear Patrick,
I can't for the life of me understand why your organisation won't take action against one of your member clubs who regularly compete in your competitions.
There has been an industrial sized paedophile ring operating from within Celtic F.C. for over 4 decades and it has been facilitated and covered up by Celtic F.C.
You have advised colleagues of mine that you have passed the "problem" onto the S.F.A. to deal with. The S.F.A. are incompetent and corrupt to the core influenced by Celtic C.E.O. Peter Lawwell who holds authority over the S.F.A. and also now at your organisation U.E.F.A.
In any other walk of life this would be construed as a conflict of interest, given that Mr Lawwell was financial controller at Celtic F.C. and authorised the payment of £1million pounds to convicted paedophile Jim Torbett's company The Trophy Centre, allegedly as hush money, in order to protect the "good name of the club"?
Surely this club have breached U.E.F.A. rules regarding holding a license to operate? If not then it must be the case that U.E.F.A. are happy to condone child abuse and the operation of paedophile rings at their member club's.
Just recently Mr Lawwell announced that the club had carried out a secret 2 year "investigation", an investigation that never reported to Police Scotland, an investigation that never spoke with any of the victims of which it is believed to number over 100, an investigation that failed to notify the London Stock Exchange.
To this day Celtic F.C. continue to deny,deflect and cover up the abuse , which could still be happening as i type, surely U.E.F.A. has "A DUTY OF CARE" to protect children from these beasts, if not then it has to be assumed that there are paedophile enablers and protectors operating at your organisation.
Celtic F.C. recently admitted liability and paid a 6 figure compensation award to one of the abused who took legal action against them, it is alleged that they tried to get the victim to accept an N.D.A. to which he rightly refused, there are 20 court cases ready to start against this club in the near future,
How can you condone this situation and continue to allow this club to operate and take money from your organisation and from sponsors?, it is prolonging the agony and torment for the survivors of this abuse, abuse that has incidently led to 3 suicides and one possible murder by a Celtic F.C. employee in 1996 by Jim McCafferty.
If you have any conscience and morals Patrick, you will ensure that something is done regarding this International scandal the likes of which has never been seen before, Yes International Patrick as this club has facilitated abuse in the U.S.A. and several European countries.
The S.F.A. will not carry out an Independent or thorough investigation as they have known about this for decades and done Nothing. The political system in Scotland have also failed to protect and support the victims, How Many More Lives Must Be Lost Patrick before this club are dealt with and their paedophile ring broken up, there are still up to another 8 Celtic F.C. employees who were named by Mr Hugh Birt ,a Celtic Boys Club official who backed by Mr Gerry McSherry handed a list of 14 named abusers to the police, who incidently also appear complicit in covering this sordid affair.
Please Patrick, don't be on the end game list of names who KNEW and done Nothing, there are countless tortured victims who need closure and recompense to try to rebuild their shattered lives, please Partick ,Do The Right Thing.
Regards
Aye it was "Earl" something. He went on to say that he couldn't continue for some personal stuff. Sounds like he was a blagger as he never re-appeared after the new launch of the forum.Chubby brown or earl something or other?
Earl mcmoonbrand I believeWhatever happened ro the poster who was on this thread quite some time ago asking to be updated and/or reminded of all the facts, scenarios, inside info, gossip, anecdotes, etc, etc. so that he could collate it it all for some dossier or other?
Chubby Brown was the guy who done the Web of Corruption at the time of our troubles .Chubby brown or earl something or other?
I remember wondering after a couple of months and made a point of remembering the name but it must be 2-3years ago now.Aye it was "Earl" something. He went on to say that he couldn't continue for some personal stuff. Sounds like he was a blagger as he never re-appeared after the new launch of the forum.
You’re right mate. CB had put a lot of work into the web.Chubby Brown was the guy who done the Web of Corruption at the time of our troubles .
I don't think He was a mentally challenged as He was able to name the Master who took over my old lodge after Me .
But his so called mate who claimed to be with him try to accuse me of being a Rhat
What documentary is he referring too?I looked into kids who had been abused, and how it affects them. I watched a powerful documentary about a young football team up in Scotland – the Celtic Boys Club (Celtic Boys Club founder Jim Torbett has been jailed for six years after being convicted of sexually abusing three boys over an eight-year period). I watched a lot of documentaries about people who had been victims in that situation, as well as looking into alcoholism and the reasons behind it.
I still have all the hard copy of it . Six year down the line there are many more. that could be added .You’re right mate. CB had put a lot of work into the web.
It would need a whitewashed wall to fit it all in now.I still have all the hard copy of it . Six year down the line there are many more. that could be added .
Excuse my ignorance my friend but what is the Chelsea echo, is it a radio show or podcast thing
What documentary is he referring too?
Oh I was hoping it might be one that has not released yet.It may be the one Mark Daly did a year or two ago mate ? It included not just them but was mainly them from memory ?
Oh I was hoping it might be one that has not released yet.
Hope so mate really do hope this buries themThat’s still a few months away IBN. Should be dynamite.
they can throw as much mud around as they want,the truth of the matter is we as a support,we as a team, we as ordinary ,decent human beings will welcome any truly independent inquiry and we will fully accept its findings, now we turn to those throwing the mud around,can you do likewise, take your time now bhoys will you fully embrace an independent inquiry,, thought notI see Harry Dunn gets mentioned now and then. Dunn was a well known scout for many clubs, he has as much of a connection with Manchester United, Liverpool, Everton as he does with us.
It looks like they are throwing mud and hoping it sticks. Ive saw the reporting of him being linked to abuse at Ibrox- no quotes, no one named, not even a journalist giving his name. File it under bullsh1t!
If there actually was someone abused at Ibrox then go to the police.
Hope so mate really do hope this buries them
That is a breath taking callous response from the government.These cunts have no shame
Please read
Sexual abuse in Scottish football: FOI release
Information request and response under the Freedom of Information (Scotland) Act 2002.www.gov.scot
That is a breath taking callous response from the government.