Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

i am noticing more and more the bheast FC fans trying to make out that the Neely and Dunn thing is just as bad etc as their nonce ring. makes me sick..

Celtic F.C. and the former Celtic Boys Club are both inextricably linked , through the actions or inactions of Jock Stein, Jack McGinn, Kevin Kelly, Chris Whyte, Michael Kelly, James Farrell etc.,
The awards/presentations, promotion from boys club to Celtic squad, trips abroad for boys club, who paid for that? Director appointments with Trophy centre ,payments to trophy centre, Jim McCafferty kit man for Celtic and coach with boys club, articles in Celtic View, the clubs defence of the beasts i.e. scurrilous accusations 1986, there is far more damning evidence there to hang them.

As for their claims about Dunn & Neely, this is the important thing, that they're too blind to see, if they had done the right thing in the early seventies Dunn & Neely would in all probability never had the chance to perpetrate abuse as the laws and exposure should have offered greater protection to children, so by Celtics failure to act they in turn helped create these other monsters further down the line.

The S.F.A. are also as complicit as Celtic for their failure to punish the club and put a stop to the torture endured by the children.

Also until otherwise clarified , I am of the belief that when the alleged victim at Rangers reported Neely, he was summoned to a meeting with Souness, Smith, & Johnstone at which they dismissed him and reported him to the police , one of which was the boys father.
Hibernian also failed to notify Rangers as to Neely's behaviour prior to him joining .

If these claims are indeed fact, then Rangers acted in the correct way and should not be culpable of any wrong doing, if this is not the case then I would hope they act retrospectively and deal with it in the correct way .

Also Celtic acted in an unprecedented way by taking back into the club a known paedophile to enable him to continue his abuse, also digest the fact that they have had 4 employees criminally convicted with another under investigation, Gerald King was convicted of abusing 4 boys and 1 girl but unbelievably served no jail time, how can this possibly be justice?
 
the lenient sentences handed out to these beasts in Scotland does not sit right with me. Anyone else thinking something is not right? We know from past findings these paedophile rings are likely to include powerful figures.

Can anyone honestly justify why here in Scotland such pathetic sentences are handed out for ruining peoples life and the crime lasting decades?
Speaking to a well read friend some time ago (not one of them) about the light sentences and how preposterously lenient they were, and he was of the opinion that judges in Scotland are compelled to hand out punishments that would have been available to them at the time the offences were committed. I asked on here a few weeks back if this was true as I've never been able to find anything confirming/contradicting this, hoping a lawyer or someone with better knowledge of Scottish law would could give us a definitive answer, but no-one has of yet.

This would at least make some sense of sorts (not that it's right in my mind, at least that's my initial reaction, although it's a debate we'd need to have if true), and would suggest it's a change in law that is perhaps required rather than the system/judges being corrupt as such. There's just no way that the current sentences are that light, they just can't be. Which is why for the moment I'm chosing to believe theres some truth to this. Otherwise, like many are saying, there's something very wrong.

Edit: Sorry nybear. replied to your post in error. Correcting now.
 
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Res ipsa loquitur. The facts speak for themselves.

I'm for jailing and exposing all paedophiles. Whoever they are, whoever they worked for. At all times.

The difference with Celtic is the scale of the abuse, the length of the time period over which multiple perpetrators operated within the club, the scandalous denial of responsibility of the club and the financial relationship between the club and the main perpetrator of abuse. Kevin Kelly, the former chairman of Celtic became a director of The Trophy Centre Limited as did the wife of another - Anne Dunn being the maiden name of Jack McGinn's wife. This at a time when the Trophy Centre was receiving £250,000 in business from the football club each year.
Very succinct Mark.
If this was happening at our club I’d want a full, open and honest independent enquiry to fully establish the facts.
Paedophilia is unacceptable, and any normal, rational person would want paedophiles exposed and punished.
There must be a helluva lot of abnormal, irrational supporters of that club we need to share our city with, as they have no appetite for exposing the paedophiles and those who have harboured the criminals. They have no appetite to allow justice to take place, and for the victims of the monsters to have some sort of closure.
Quite simply, a helluva lot of Celtic supporters are utterly despicable.
 
Wouldn't make a difference to viewing figures. It's available on catch up and what not for those who miss it. It begins after our game and a whole 24 hours before theirs.

Celtic tried to block it altogether
It’s a two parter, I thought the 2nd part was tomorrow? If you don’t think Rangers playing at 5pm won’t effect the viewing figures then that’s just being stupid.
 
the lenient sentences handed out to these beasts in Scotland does not sit right with me. Anyone else thinking something is not right? We know from past findings these paedophile rings are likely to include powerful figures.

Can anyone honestly justify why here in Scotland such pathetic sentences are handed out for ruining peoples life and the crime lasting decades?
These animals are sly, cunning and opportunistic. The pathetic low sentences up here is the best advert you could ever have for paedophile migration. Current offenders and future offenders will be flocking to a place near you.

It's turned 21st century Scotland into a paedophile haven.

The terrible light sentences are nothing new Torbett got 4 years for his first conviction over 20 years ago then 6 years for his second conviction recently. Nothing has changed.

In England Bennell got 31 years first time up with it mentioned he abused boys on an industrial scale. Torbett has been operating since the mid 60s, he will have abused as many if not more.

These animals never stop, even when they do what in Torbetts case was in reality 2 years after he conned the probation board to get out and resume his disgusting life style.
 

In light of recent speculation and to seek to avoid any confusion, the Club wishes to confirm its position regarding the historic abuse that took place at Celtic Football Club and Celtic Boys’ Club. Celtic Football Club is appalled by any form of historic abuse and has great sympathy for those who suffered abuse and for their families. The Club is very sorry that these events took place. The abuse of young people is an abhorrent crime. Unfortunately it has affected many areas of society.

With regard to the allegations regarding historic abuse at Celtic Boys’ Club (which, so far as we have been made aware, relate to the period prior to 1997), although Celtic Football Club is a separate organisation, we take these extremely seriously because of the historic contacts between the two organisations. Police investigations were given support, so as to seek to ensure that those individuals who abused young people were brought to justice.

The Club has been at the leading edge in Scottish football of putting welfare and safeguarding protections in place for our young people and continues to work with Scottish football to make it a safe place for young people.

These are very sensitive matters. There are ongoing legal proceedings which prevent us from discussing any case in any detail. It would not be appropriate for the Club to comment in the media about any individuals or events.

In summary, these are historic issues, which the Club is dealing with in a responsible manner and in conjunction with its advisers. The Club reiterates its sincere sympathy, regret and sorrow for those affected. As we have said repeatedly, the Club will stand by its responsibilities, respecting the due process of law.
 
So from their first sentence they are now admitting abuse at their boys club. Their club statement translates into one simple word....Guilty!!

In light of recent speculation and to seek to avoid any confusion, the Club wishes to confirm its position regarding the historic abuse that took place at Celtic Football Club and Celtic Boys’ Club.
 
So from their first sentence they are now admitting abuse at their boys club. Their club statement translates into one simple word....Guilty!!

In light of recent speculation and to seek to avoid any confusion, the Club wishes to confirm its position regarding the historic abuse that took place at Celtic Football Club and Celtic Boys’ Club.

The tone starts of that way then heads back to refusing to take responsibility, total scum

"although Celtic Football Club is a separate organisation, we take these extremely seriously because of the historic contacts between the two organisations."
 

In light of recent speculation and to seek to avoid any confusion, the Club wishes to confirm its position regarding the historic abuse that took place at Celtic Football Club and Celtic Boys’ Club. Celtic Football Club is appalled by any form of historic abuse and has great sympathy for those who suffered abuse and for their families. The Club is very sorry that these events took place. The abuse of young people is an abhorrent crime. Unfortunately it has affected many areas of society.

With regard to the allegations regarding historic abuse at Celtic Boys’ Club (which, so far as we have been made aware, relate to the period prior to 1997), although Celtic Football Club is a separate organisation, we take these extremely seriously because of the historic contacts between the two organisations. Police investigations were given support, so as to seek to ensure that those individuals who abused young people were brought to justice.

The Club has been at the leading edge in Scottish football of putting welfare and safeguarding protections in place for our young people and continues to work with Scottish football to make it a safe place for young people.

These are very sensitive matters. There are ongoing legal proceedings which prevent us from discussing any case in any detail. It would not be appropriate for the Club to comment in the media about any individuals or events.

In summary, these are historic issues, which the Club is dealing with in a responsible manner and in conjunction with its advisers. The Club reiterates its sincere sympathy, regret and sorrow for those affected. As we have said repeatedly, the Club will stand by its responsibilities, respecting the due process of law.

Only thing I took from that was..

"Separate entity"
"Look at them annaw"
"See whit happens"
 
The tone starts of that way then heads back to refusing to take responsibility, total scum

"although Celtic Football Club is a separate organisation, we take these extremely seriously because of the historic contacts between the two organisations."

Its sickening they continue to try play the seperate entity card, but to my memory this is the first time I've noticed them acknowledge the boys club part in it.

Its a slippy slope from there.
 

In light of recent speculation and to seek to avoid any confusion, the Club wishes to confirm its position regarding the historic abuse that took place at Celtic Football Club and Celtic Boys’ Club. Celtic Football Club is appalled by any form of historic abuse and has great sympathy for those who suffered abuse and for their families. The Club is very sorry that these events took place. The abuse of young people is an abhorrent crime. Unfortunately it has affected many areas of society.

With regard to the allegations regarding historic abuse at Celtic Boys’ Club (which, so far as we have been made aware, relate to the period prior to 1997), although Celtic Football Club is a separate organisation, we take these extremely seriously because of the historic contacts between the two organisations. Police investigations were given support, so as to seek to ensure that those individuals who abused young people were brought to justice.

The Club has been at the leading edge in Scottish football of putting welfare and safeguarding protections in place for our young people and continues to work with Scottish football to make it a safe place for young people.

These are very sensitive matters. There are ongoing legal proceedings which prevent us from discussing any case in any detail. It would not be appropriate for the Club to comment in the media about any individuals or events.

In summary, these are historic issues, which the Club is dealing with in a responsible manner and in conjunction with its advisers. The Club reiterates its sincere sympathy, regret and sorrow for those affected. As we have said repeatedly, the Club will stand by its responsibilities, respecting the due process of law.

Is this the first time they've said sorry? Not sorry for their actions, sorry it happened... maybe their working towards a full, frank apology. The b@stards.
 
It was only an open secret..... Again please excuse the language. Filthy bastards. Along with their apologists that exist within the under qualified government of Scotland. They will have questions to answer.

We are the good guys here getting victimized, we are leading the way in child protection now

Predictable scummy spin perfected over centuries
 
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Thomson’s putting the boot in, is he not?
Genuine admission of guilt in that statement, and definite fear factor there also.
This is looking very interesting now.
I had a feeling Thomson would Shred his loyalties to the mhanks once he realises how much of a cesspit scum club it really is.

they can argue the apology for club refers to the club photographer that got convicted rather than the Boys Club paedo ring. They have no shame.
 
they can argue the apology for club refers to the club photographer that got convicted rather than the Boys Club paedo ring. They have no shame.
Agreed, but on the flip side if they didn’t want to admit any guilt they didn’t need to make a statement, it could have all been left to the news piece and let folk decide.
you know and I know that someone on high has told them to get the statement out and get the excuses in early.
As Thomson says quite rightly, saying sorry linguistically is very very different to apologising unreservedly for abuse suffered, on their watch, no matter which Umbrella it was under.
No shame fc
 
These animals are sly, cunning and opportunistic. The pathetic low sentences up here is the best advert you could ever have for paedophile migration. Current offenders and future offenders will be flocking to a place near you.

It's turned 21st century Scotland into a paedophile haven.

The terrible light sentences are nothing new Torbett got 4 years for his first conviction over 20 years ago then 6 years for his second conviction recently. Nothing has changed.

In England Bennell got 31 years first time up with it mentioned he abused boys on an industrial scale. Torbett has been operating since the mid 60s, he will have abused as many if not more.

These animals never stop, even when they do what in Torbetts case was in reality 2 years after he conned the probation board to get out and resume his disgusting life style.
There are specific court guidelines for these offences, perhaps they need to be written in Gaylick (intended) for the influenced Scottish judges to be able to read them.
It's criminal in itself that our history of punishment of these convicted paedofiles is a terrible joke, and yes he knew as well.
 
There are specific court guidelines for these offences, perhaps they need to be written in Gaylick (intended) for the influenced Scottish judges to be able to read them.
It's criminal in itself that our history of punishment of these convicted paedofiles is a terrible joke, and yes he knew as well.
C.unts the lot of them
 
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