Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

For those who haven’t seen this individual before. We have also traced him.

John Cullen. Celtic photographer.


Brilliant piece of detective work right there.

I once described Cairney as, "The one that got away." I was wrong. That title rightly belongs to John Cullen.

After years of searching for a photo of this pervert this is the first one I've ever seen.

I suspect both Cullen and Celtic went to great lengths to have any photographs of him wiped from the entire internet - ironic him being a photographer.

Again, great work!
 
Brilliant piece of detective work right there.

I once described Cairney as, "The one that got away." I was wrong. That title rightly belongs to John Cullen.

After years of searching for a photo of this pervert this is the first one I've ever seen.

I suspect both Cullen and Celtic went to great lengths to have any photographs of him wiped from the entire internet - ironic him being a photographer.

Again, great work!
This was found my a member in the background. I think there is more to be found on this individual.
 
Outstanding work hunting this (unt.

Cullen is a key figure I would imagine who has done his utmost to change identity and more or he would have been found before now.

This is inspirational stuff.

It's a truly incredible find!

I trawled The Mitchell in search of this guy all to no avail. The team working away in the background deserve huge credit for finally putting a face to this skulking paedophile!

Not entirely sure if Cullen's still alive, but if he is, he'll be distraught at his photo being plastered all over Follow Follow.

He went to great lengths to prevent this from happening.

Magnificent work!
 
Outstanding work hunting this (unt.

Cullen is a key figure I would imagine who has done his utmost to change identity and more or he would have been found before now.

This is inspirational stuff.
These photographs would have been highly sought after by the ring.
I believe that the stash uncovered basically covered a calendar year. Cullen was the photographer for at least 20 years.

It’s not hard to imagine that thousands more photos were taken. In the sick world of a paedo ring this would have given Cullen great power.

The fact that Scotland Yards Paedo squad could not identify any victim, when as we have discussed before any half decent Glasgow PI would have gotten dozens of names within days, is really insulting our intelligence.
 
It's a truly incredible find!

I trawled The Mitchell in search of this guy all to no avail. The team working away in the background deserve huge credit for finally putting a face to this skulking paedophile!

Not entirely sure if Cullen's still alive, but if he is, he'll be distraught at his photo being plastered all over Follow Follow.

He went to great lengths to prevent this from happening.

Magnificent work!

Deserves a thread of its own I think.

Get his picture available from the off, more info may come in on him.

@BN94
 
A few questions, because I don't like the idea of an innocent person's name being tarred because they are unfortunate enough to share it with a beast.

Anyone on here subscribe (or know anyone who does) to Nursingstandard.com journal?

There is an article online about nurses striking at The Southern General in support of an ambulance driver by the name of Lyness Malley, who they say was made a scapegoat after his unfair dismissal.

Just want to find out the date that article was written. It appears that Celtc's "very own" Lyness Malley is 81, so it may not be him unless the article was written a good few ago.(It must be at least 5 years old as that's when the SG was replaced by the QEUH)

Does Celtc's "very own" Lyness Malley live in Glasgow?
There appears to be only one Lyness Malley in the phone book, and he lives very close to a school in Glasgow, near what was the Southern General.

I can confirm this is the same Lyness malley, I worked at the SGH for 40 years and had many dealings with him. Malley stays in Glasgow not far from the SGH and as you say a school.
 
Outstanding work hunting this (unt.

Cullen is a key figure I would imagine who has done his utmost to change identity and more or he would have been found before now.

This is inspirational stuff.
I think I mentioned before on this thread that hugh birt was the official photographer for celtic and he claimed he was forced out his job after he went to the hierarchy at celtic park regarding the events at Celtic's boy's club - to be replaced by Cullen who was later found to have hundreds of indecent images stored at celtic park - just how unlucky can one club be!
 
I have no doubt in my mind that if someone with the right expertise was to dig hard enough in the dark web Cullens fingerprints would be discovered far and wide. Unfortunately in order to do that unforgivable boundaries must be crossed - see the Madeline McCann doc - some high level PI or Met police would have to get involved and they won't.
 
These photographs would have been highly sought after by the ring.
I believe that the stash uncovered basically covered a calendar year. Cullen was the photographer for at least 20 years.

It’s not hard to imagine that thousands more photos were taken. In the sick world of a paedo ring this would have given Cullen great power.

The fact that Scotland Yards Paedo squad could not identify any victim, when as we have discussed before any half decent Glasgow PI would have gotten dozens of names within days, is really insulting our intelligence.
Could it be that they have identified some of the kids but they were unwilling to press charges or take it any further. It takes great courage for theses men to come forward and lay bare their experiences. I’m not sure I could and I have nothing but respect and admiration for those who have. They can certainly hold their heads high.
 
Could it be that they have identified some of the kids but they were unwilling to press charges or take it any further. It takes great courage for theses men to come forward and lay bare their experiences. I’m not sure I could and I have nothing but respect and admiration for those who have. They can certainly hold their heads high.

They were kids and im assuming under 16 yrs old,therefore,it would've been up to parents on any further action,if they were identified.
Personally,i don't believe for a minute that the mets finest not only couldn't identify any of the kids,but also failed to make a case that resulted in jail time...doesn't make sense.
 
Sorry, no name but the allegation came soon after Torbett's return. Will look further.


Following his dismissal in 1972 following allegations of sexual abuse, Frank Cairney was asked to replace him. Two years later (and after Stein’s departure) Cairney organised for Torbett’s return to the club to act as a fundraiser but not to have any contact with children. However, new allegations quickly surfaced.



Hope the above is of help.

Hopefully that will come out in court. Depravity beyond belief
 
It's a truly incredible find!

I trawled The Mitchell in search of this guy all to no avail. The team working away in the background deserve huge credit for finally putting a face to this skulking paedophile!

Not entirely sure if Cullen's still alive, but if he is, he'll be distraught at his photo being plastered all over Follow Follow.

He went to great lengths to prevent this from happening.

Magnificent work!
He did, or did a certain club steeped in child abuse ,do it for him?????
 
Not one of those negative, whiny nothing is happening posts.

Just a question if anyone knows. The longer documentary that was scheduled for airing. I guess the pandemic pushed that up. Is there any knowledge of where that is at the moment?
 
I know the story about John Cullen has already been covered in the papers years ago, do we now think the story will be covered again with a picture of him to go with it ?
 
These photographs would have been highly sought after by the ring.
I believe that the stash uncovered basically covered a calendar year. Cullen was the photographer for at least 20 years.

It’s not hard to imagine that thousands more photos were taken. In the sick world of a paedo ring this would have given Cullen great power.

The fact that Scotland Yards Paedo squad could not identify any victim, when as we have discussed before any half decent Glasgow PI would have gotten dozens of names within days, is really insulting our intelligence.

At court in 2002 they said he’d been there almost 30 years Walt, so 1972 or shortly afterwards.

And all of those pictures were from 1982.

You’d have to think there are 1000’s somewhere.
 
They were kids and im assuming under 16 yrs old,therefore,it would've been up to parents on any further action,if they were identified.
Personally,i don't believe for a minute that the mets finest not only couldn't identify any of the kids,but also failed to make a case that resulted in jail time...doesn't make sense.

Yes, pretty sure the case article said 10-13yo mate.
 
They were kids and im assuming under 16 yrs old,therefore,it would've been up to parents on any further action,if they were identified.
Personally,i don't believe for a minute that the mets finest not only couldn't identify any of the kids,but also failed to make a case that resulted in jail time...doesn't make sense.
The sense would be that possibly some of the kids pictured might have come from families of influential people hence no thorough investigation. More cover ups I suppose.
 
At court in 2002 they said he’d been there almost 30 years Walt, so 1972 or shortly afterwards.

And all of those pictures were from 1982.

You’d have to think there are 1000’s somewhere.
Can anyone answer this: Why do the boys in the photos have to be identified for a conviction?

You get caught with child porn on your hard drive you are off to court, criminal record, jail time and on the register. Victims not identified.

Having photos YOU have taken - surely that's worse?
 
Can anyone answer this: Why do the boys in the photos have to be identified for a conviction?

You get caught with child porn on your hard drive you are off to court, criminal record, jail time and on the register. Victims not identified.

Having photos YOU have taken - surely that's worse?
Just in general terms some legislation / crimes have a requirement for the age of the victim to be known at the time of the offence. Sometimes that would come from the evidence of a parent or the child themselves, backed up by a bIrth certificate. In some other cases evidence might have to come from an expert witness, maybe an expert in childrens' health or a paediatrician.
 
The keepers in Baltimore and the spotlight team at Boston uncovered harrowing experiences at the hands of catholic clergy. I am sure many will be aware of the Penn state abuse case, all of which had similarities of cover up and deflecting of events.
What is unfolding of what went on at Celtic for decades is very similar, perpetrators being protected and allowed to continue to abuse unchallenged. Denial from the club to acknowledge victims, failure of football governing body investigation into allegations and the refusal of government to seek justice for the victims. The victims were minors following their football dream, let down terribly by that institution and disregarded by complient media and press. Only a full independent inquiry will be required for the truth to unfold.
 
The keepers in Baltimore and the spotlight team at Boston uncovered harrowing experiences at the hands of catholic clergy. I am sure many will be aware of the Penn state abuse case, all of which had similarities of cover up and deflecting of events.
What is unfolding of what went on at Celtic for decades is very similar, perpetrators being protected and allowed to continue to abuse unchallenged. Denial from the club to acknowledge victims, failure of football governing body investigation into allegations and the refusal of government to seek justice for the victims. The victims were minors following their football dream, let down terribly by that institution and disregarded by complient media and press. Only a full independent inquiry will be required for the truth to unfold.
What is unfolding at Celtic is far more sinister and evil than anything that has unfolded in world sport.
 
Can anyone answer this: Why do the boys in the photos have to be identified for a conviction?

You get caught with child porn on your hard drive you are off to court, criminal record, jail time and on the register. Victims not identified.

Having photos YOU have taken - surely that's worse?

The identities do not need to be known and he was convicted.

The issue with the identities is that the lads could have been interviewed to ascertain the full extent of his crimes. It is very probable that it could have provided evidence of the involvement of others.
 
And we scratch our heads wondering why you’ve done nothing for the victims and families that suffered at the hands of you’re beloved club.
He pops his head up above the parapet now and again when it comes to subjects that really he shouldn’t be getting into when he’s been inundated with requests for answers as to why he’s not conversing with victims of child abuse at the celtic football and athletic company, as they were called back then of course. It’s an absolute scandal as to why he hasn’t sat down with anyone related to this crisis. Yet he has the gall to talk about having to “scratch his head” at statues that have been erected in this city for very many years?
This man is unfit for office. He needs to resign at once.

#RemoveHumzaUseless
 
And we scratch our heads wondering why you’ve done nothing for the victims and families that suffered at the hands of you’re beloved club.

His idea of Justice Secretary - give opinions on things in every other country in the world
but DO %^*& ALL in his own country.

WTF is he paid to do Sturgeon ?
 
Torbett really did even look like a creep. Who trust their kids to that fuy.
Sadly, parents that probably came from %^*& all, who had nothing except dreams of their kid making it at the club they loved.

It sickens me what went on at that club. It sickens me further that the club to this day won't accept responsibility for what went on.

However, due to the courage of some of the victims and the absolutely sterling work of many people, some on here, it feels like the tide is turning and perhaps one day soon, everyone responsible for the crimes and the subsequent decades long cover up will be held to account for their actions.
 
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