Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

Looking at a lot of the articles in this thread you might be convinced these crimes were taking place pre-2000’s.

I think these hideous crimes/cover ups might have also spilled into modern times as well.

It just take a few real journalists to go digging. Although even the most experienced journalists might be shocked with what they will find.

Do we know when Septic ended their relationship with the Trophy Centre? I used to know someone that said they worked/owned the Trophy Centre and they were based at Parkhead. A quick check on companies house at the time showed he wasn’t a shareholder, but it’s interesting he was very open about working for them at heir ground.
 
“On the specific reference to Celtic FC, one of many clubs referenced in the final report, the Review in actual fact states clearly that the club has gone to great lengths to address any past contacts between the club and Celtic Boys Club - and have done so effectively. This is welcomed by the Review and welcomed within the review. (This is a cover up.)
alexg123 said:
It really is shocking when you read about the depths of depravity child abuse can stoop to including babies ffs . What kind of human being can stoop to those levels ? The time has come for the World to condemn these acts of depravity against children of all ages . It is deeply disturbing that the Scottish Government cannot even make ONE statement of sympathy to the victims of CFC and their Boy's Club and give them assurance that justice will finally be served on those responsible for the hideous crimes and those who chose to look the other way and allowed the perpetrators to continue with their perverted acts against young kids . They should hang their heads in shame !
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The outcry should be from everyone to demand an all inclusive fully independent investigation, not the negligent partial investigation that intentionally excludes two of the biggest perpetrators enablers,and protectors of paedophiles in the land.
 
CooperShoots said:
Looking at a lot of the articles in this thread you might be convinced these crimes were taking place pre-2000’s.

I think these hideous crimes/cover ups might have also spilled into modern times as well.

It just take a few real journalists to go digging. Although even the most experienced journalists might be shocked with what they will find.

Do we know when Septic ended their relationship with the Trophy Centre? I used to know someone that said they worked/owned the Trophy Centre and they were based at Parkhead. A quick check on companies house at the time showed he wasn’t a shareholder, but it’s interesting he was very open about working for them at heir ground.
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Around 2004.

They went wound up until years later right enough.

Edit - Yes, last accounts submitted up to January, 04. Dissolved in 2009.
 
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alexg123 said:
It really is shocking when you read about the depths of depravity child abuse can stoop to including babies ffs . What kind of human being can stoop to those levels ? The time has come for the World to condemn these acts of depravity against children of all ages . It is deeply disturbing that the Scottish Government cannot even make ONE statement of sympathy to the victims of CFC and their Boy's Club and give them assurance that justice will finally be served on those responsible for the hideous crimes and those who chose to look the other way and allowed the perpetrators to continue with their perverted acts against young kids . They should hang their heads in shame !
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Aye, but as far as Speirs is concerned, to want to see these people, and the club that knowingly harboured them and provided the resources for them to carry on raping kids, is to be no more than a crank.
Incredible stuff from Speirs.
 
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Grigo Yossarian said:
And Mr McSherry really just carried on the effort from Mr Birt, who was CHASED out of the
club he loved because he highlighted paedophilia being conducted in his clubs name.

The three man committee that dismissed him had AT LEAST two paedophiles.
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I felt sorry for that man Hugh Birt, the type of people he wanted cleansed from his club were allowed to perform the Coup De Grace on him, that was the ultimate humiliation for the C@ltic chairman.
 
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Kilwinning GMan said:
That in itself is fkn outrageous. To actually caveat what groups can be investigated not only shines a light on the very groups that should be investigated, it says as far as I’m concerned (a) this has clearly been done for a very specific reason and they want nothing to come out as this is MASSIVE, (b) if you are a paedo then this would surely encourage you to get involved in these specific circles as they are basically stating it won’t be investigated and (c) and most importantly, CSA is the most abhorrent crime out there FFS and it shouldn’t matter a f@ck where it takes place as the lives and wellbeing of every single child should be protected! EVERY SINGLE CASE that is identified and proven should mean every perpetrator should be behind bars for the rest of their fkn days when found guilty.
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They could give it a catchy name. Something simple but to the point. Getting it right for every child or something.
 
Celtic are seeking to get out of this on a technicality. Looking at the cuttings it's clear that CBC where always seen as being part of celtic by that club.

They will no doubt claim that as CBC was a registered different company that they are not liable.

It's morally reprehensible but it fits how they have dealt with this issue for almost 6 decades now.

Sadly, they must have legal advice that they have a good chance of winning the 'separate entity' argument.
 
SasaPapacLoyal54 said:
Celtic are seeking to get out of this on a technicality. Looking at the cuttings it's clear that CBC where always seen as being part of celtic by that club.

They will no doubt claim that as CBC was a registered different company that they are not liable.

It's morally reprehensible but it fits how they have dealt with this issue for almost 6 decades now.

Sadly, they must have legal advice that they have a good chance of winning the 'separate entity' argument.
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The courts can be a very unforgiving place. Sadly I think they are brazen enough to go down this route. Without something 'legally binding' like a p45 or something they may well get away with this yet on a technicality. Incredible when you look at whe evidence.
 
nemessis said:
“On the specific reference to Celtic FC, one of many clubs referenced in the final report, the Review in actual fact states clearly that the club has gone to great lengths to address any past contacts between the club and Celtic Boys Club - and have done so effectively. This is welcomed by the Review and welcomed within the review. (This is a cover up.)

The outcry should be from everyone to demand an all inclusive fully independent investigation, not the negligent partial investigation that intentionally excludes two of the biggest perpetrators enablers,and protectors of paedophiles in the land.
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The timescales are right so is this the reason the paedo club have decided to run with this separate entity noncence (sic) - were they tipped off by the “independent” reviewer that it would look good in the report if they were to distance themselves?

It’s certainly the way they and their ilk operate. So grateful that it’s being exposed for the lies that it is.
 
SasaPapacLoyal54 said:
Celtic are seeking to get out of this on a technicality. Looking at the cuttings it's clear that CBC where always seen as being part of celtic by that club.

They will no doubt claim that as CBC was a registered different company that they are not liable.

It's morally reprehensible but it fits how they have dealt with this issue for almost 6 decades now.

Sadly, they must have legal advice that they have a good chance of winning the 'separate entity' argument.
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Maybe Lord Carloway, if he sits in judgement on this case, will use the " common sense reasoning " that he used against us, to say, yes in fact CBC are linked to CFC.

NOT.
 
“On the specific reference to Celtic FC, one of many clubs referenced in the final report, the Review in actual fact states clearly that the club has gone to great lengths to address any past contacts between the club and Celtic Boys Club - and have done so effectively. This is welcomed by the Review and welcomed within the review. (This is a cover up.)


That paragraph gets worse every time you read it.
 
Grigo Yossarian said:
And Mr McSherry really just carried on the effort from Mr Birt, who was CHASED out of the
club he loved because he highlighted paedophilia being conducted in his clubs name.

The three man committee that dismissed him had AT LEAST two paedophiles.
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If I’m reading this correctly then this is massive and the first time that fingers are officially being pointed in a certain direction.
 
Orangepeel1872 said:
If I’m reading this correctly then this is massive and the first time that fingers are officially being pointed in a certain direction.
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This was a long time ago OP72, in fact Mr Birt died over 5 years ago, but, as you suggest, you couldn't get a more blatant message as to that club's attitude to their paedophile ring.

Keep the paedophiles in employment & fire the guys trying to protect young children mate.

Scandalous, in any normal person's eyes.
 
So who is the best person on here to message about their seperate entity claim, and the technicalities that Celtic will use from a corporate point of view? (i.e. to avoid paying out)
 
CooperShoots said:
Looking at a lot of the articles in this thread you might be convinced these crimes were taking place pre-2000’s.

I think these hideous crimes/cover ups might have also spilled into modern times as well.

It just take a few real journalists to go digging. Although even the most experienced journalists might be shocked with what they will find.

Do we know when Septic ended their relationship with the Trophy Centre? I used to know someone that said they worked/owned the Trophy Centre and they were based at Parkhead. A quick check on companies house at the time showed he wasn’t a shareholder, but it’s interesting he was very open about working for them at heir ground.
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The contract with TTC & Celtic was allowed to lapse in 2001.....Celtic paid Jim Torbett a handsome sum throughout his first sentence.
 
I agree all these article are damning and clearly show the boys club were part of the same ‘family’.

However, Septic were paying travel costs for boys coming across from Ireland. If there’s narrative in historic accounts which describe/categorise these payments being made then that’s a HUGE piece of evidence.

Follow the money as they say.
 
CooperShoots said:
I agree all these article are damning and clearly show the boys club were part of the same ‘family’.

However, Septic were paying travel costs for boys coming across from Ireland. If there’s narrative in historic accounts which describe/categorise these payments being made then that’s a HUGE piece of evidence.

Follow the money as they say.
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You don't see that detail in a companies accounts unless you are the auditor CS.
 
Coza said:
I disagree. They are so similar if Celtic had an issue with the boys club (a separate entity) using it thy would have moved fast to have it stopped.



100%.

Lothian Rangers had a bit part website set up and we used a rip off photo shop of the Rangers crest. Less than 2/4 days it was up before we were asked/told to have it removed.
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As with every club out there, a club badge or crest cannot be used by another (or seperate) organisation. The crests/badge are registered to each club, and its use is for them only.
 
Grigo Yossarian said:
You don't see that detail in a companies accounts unless you are the auditor CS.
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Annual accounts will all have notes, they might be brief and specific to events that happened that year.

It could be that one of these years they had something about the financial interaction with the BC. But as you say, they amounts going between the BC could have been too small and would have likely been captured under a larger category.

But if you’re a lawyer in court, you should be asking any Septic FD whether the club paid any amounts to the CBC.
 
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DougieJones said:
He’s produced the very occasional article expressing his horror at the idea of child abuse and politely asking Celtic to apologise. None were ever followed up - simply bookmark type pieces which he can handily produce when accused of ignoring the situation. In other words, he’s attempted to cover his arse, nothing more.
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He is probably correct in saying the few he has written is more than the others. Doesn't mean he has done anything to highlight the matter.

He is utter scum. He has actually written articles defending the peados in our game. That is just incredible by any standards. The fact that no other journos pulled him up for it at the time tells you all you need to know about them as well
 
Johnny Yen said:
Spiers is utter scum, the newspaper he works for has had quite a lot of coverage on this scandal, however he remains largely silent on it, I notice as well that he retweets lots of stuff from the Times on various subjects, he never, ever retweets the stuff on the Child Abuse horror.

Wonder why eh?
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In addition, the "useful idiot" had ample opportunity to comment when Alex Thomson did his bit on channel 4, but strabgely conspicious by his absence.
 
CooperShoots said:
Annual accounts will all have notes, they might be brief and specific to events that happened that year.

It could be that one of these years they had something about the financial interaction with the BC. But as you say, they amounts going between the BC could have been too small and would have likely been captured under a larger category.

But if you’re a lawyer in court, you should be asking any Septic FD whether the club paid any amounts to the CBC.
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Agree.
 
I've only skimmed this thread looking for an answer.

Why do Police Scotland not elbow the SFA out the road and take this up instead of waiting for a review?

Apologies if it's been answered.

All the best to the survivors.

Keep your investigations going people, tremendous work on behalf of the survivors.
 
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