Celtic face threat of multimillion pound compensation claim(The Times)

Did Father Spencer not run a youth football team in Preston that played against Crewe youth team run by the convicted coach .Who also played CBC .


An English-based paedophile had connections with Celtic Boys Club it has emerged, strengthening claims of collusion between a network of abusers.


Father Michael Spencer, a priest, teacher and football coach, used his position at Preston Catholic College, Lancashire, to abuse dozens of adolescent boys in the 1970s.


Now evidence has emerged which shows that Spencer, who died in 2000, forged a relationship with Celtic FC’s feeder club and brought young players to Glasgow. Four men who held senior roles with Celtic Boys Club have been convicted of sexual abuse, spanning four decades, in recent years.


Police Scotland is investigating claims that known abusers worked together to molest young footballers.


It came after an independent review — commissioned by the Scottish FA — received “substantive” new evidence of an organised abuse ring operated by paedophile coaches in Scotland and England.


Celtic View, Celtic FC’s official magazine, carried an article praising Spencer in August, 1975. It said he had been invited to Glasgow for a “friendly” match between Celtic Boys Club and his Preston Schoolboys under 15 team.


In 2012 Patrick Raggett, a former lawyer, was awarded £55,000 in damages for the years of abuse Spencer inflicted on him during his schooldays.


Lady Justice Swift at the High Court in London ruled Mr Raggett had been the victim of “insidious” abuse, stating: “Father Spencer took every opportunity to observe naked young boys and film them. He exploited his position to touch and fondle the boys for his own sexual satisfaction.”


Mr Raggett told The Times: “It seems inconceivable to me that Spencer and those responsible for abuse at Celtic Boys Club weren’t in collusion.”


His abuser filmed and photographed him naked on numerous occasions as well as taking shots of him in his football kit and swimming trunks.


Mr Ragget said: “Spencer was a Celtic fanatic and had an obsession with photography and filming. He used to wear a black tracksuit with a Celtic badge and would show cine footage of the Celtic Boys Club playing, which would bore us rigid. I also believe he was sharing naked footage of me with others.”


In 2004 John Cullen, who worked as the official photographer for Celtic View for almost 30 years, admitted taking indecent photographs of boys as young as 10. Cleaners found a black bag containing bundles of black and white images of naked and semi-naked boys in a store room at Celtic Park.


Glasgow sheriff court heard the cache had been hidden there for almost 20 years before the management was alerted, called in the police and sacked Cullen, who was given three years probation.


In 1976 Spencer’s conduct was deemed to be “unsatisfactory”, but he remained at the college until it closed in 1978 before being sent to Orkney.

Celtic FC has said that it is sorry that abuse took place but continues to insist that it was a separate entity to its feeder club.
 
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Perhaps tommy burns at the time was employed by celic fc (sepetate entity 1) AND celtic boys club (seperate entity 2) and when he was saying 'we' he was speaking about it in the capacity of his employment with Celtic boys club (sepetare entity 2) through the official newspaper of Celtic fc (seperate entity 1).

Aye, right you are, FFS.
 
I am only posting this,in case some one finds it use full, it was in the mail the other day, and it is about a Saltcoats priest , who is accused of indecent behaviour in Italy and Smithstone house Killwinning in the 90s, he gives his address as stockport Cheshire, i am sure this area has cropped up a few times, sorry if this has been done already
Priest accused of sexually abusing two young brothers after plying one with drink and playing strip poker claimed to be an exorcist who worked for the FBI, court hears
  • Father Stephen Motroni, 63, claimed he was linked to the US intelligence agency
  • Charged with carrying out indecent acts against children in Scotland and Italy
  • Witness said Motroni would squeeze their bums and massage their shoulders
By LYDIA CATLING FOR MAILONLINE

PUBLISHED: 18:36, 17 September 2020 | UPDATED: 00:59, 18 September 2020
 
When you add in the SNP’s ‘compo for silence‘ offer, plus their overall silence on the matter, one cannot come to any other conclusion that the SNP are actively protecting the perpetrators of CSA.

How that band of misfits ever came to almost absolute power in our country is beyond comprehension. A justice minister with no legal qualifications, and no problems with his missus being previously passed about the SNP as a plaything. A former Tenerife holiday rep as Defence spokesperson. Their ex No.1 and future No.1 involved in sexual misdemeanours. The current No.1’s husband and SNP Chief Exec possibly embroiled in pressurising police over the Salmond case. Education/Exams fiasco, Care Home manslaughter, not to mention numerous clusterfucks over the years. iRA marches in Glasgow City Centre. John fuckin Mason!!

All because most of Scotland hate the Tories. That’s all it is, a hatred of the Bullingdon Boys (understandable to be fair) has let the SNP rise to prominence. That and Labour still being persecuted for Blair’s Iraq mess, and lacking leadership since.

We need a Trudeau/Obama/Macron/Blair Labour type with central leanings and a good backroom team to come along and blow the SNP away.

Thank god for the main guys on here involved keeping the fight going for the victims of CSA.
 
Why does this government think it's ok to spend people's tax money for the benefit of cfc

Because they work hand in glove with the Roman Catholic church in Scotland to minimise the catastrophic domino effect that will cascade like a tsunami through so much of the new Scottish establishment.

It is very clear this a concerted attempt to manage the scenario to ensure maximum time wasting, obfuscation, 'loss' of evidence and memory and, hopefully the mobilisation of the hordes to self police silence in their community.

Stinks.
 
Wouldn't be surprised if they went to Peterborough as well.
Bob Higgins was there at the same time as Carson I believe.

Celtic through the years seemed to have benefited from a couple of clubs in England in particular, with transfers where the fees are undeclared, player loans etc. there always seemed to be a lot of horsetrading between them over the years Theses three clubs have a shared close history and are also troubled with paedophilia, Celtic FC, Southampton and Norwich what are the chances?

An in-depth review of their business together would be eye-opening.
 
That’s an absolute disgrace. Who are they to determine what sort of justice these guys get? You can’t just buy people’s silence.
How did Swinney ever get involved in politics , he's a useless buffoon , he wants waivers to be signed to protect a club that covered up child abuse for over 60 years ? What planet is he on ? It is CFC who should be paying any damages before it gets bulldozed and they should be history .
 
They were contacted recently and the reply was they no longer represent Celtic. The statement said they haven’t done so since May of this year. That was basically it.

Likewise the only comment I've seen is that Mark Hollinsheads illness with covid19 was part of the reason... strange for the CEO to take such a 'hands on' approach with a client...

Unless of course the end of any involvement is also a smoke screen..as Mark has said himself..." “Hollicom’s network of influencers and contacts, across all media channels, is unrivalled in the public relations industry and that experience and knowledge will make a key difference for clients both existing and new. "
 
The most pitiful thing is that in the twenty first century, those in authority are behaving like morons, refusing to address the criminal abuse of minors,ignoring correspondence from victims and families who have been wronged . The corrupt cover up continues at the cesspit and Holyrood. Internal investigations,SFA reports, all stalling tactics . Is there anyone of credibility associated with Celtic FC prepared to comment on the wellbeing of youths in their care during the last fifty years?
 
Reading Gordon's Post just fills me with rage. So the ScotGov want to pay victims to protect the abusers from court! Am I reading this right or am I going f@*#+! Crazy.
So let's say if one of the abusers was taken to court by another person would the person that signed the waivers evidence be void should it be required?
And once the waiver has been signed and the compensation paid is the abuser dealt with in anyway? Or just free to abuse again? Basically it's like saying guys go out and nonce care free we'll pick up the tab.

Well done Gordon for stating your intentions your a brave man.
 
We have a cesspool of enablers in our government (and within our 'Scottish parliament') and also our media whose stance seems to be an incredulous "why won't they just shut up". The cover up mentality, and 'keeping secrets within the family/religious community' is so ingrained that any exposure and truth coming out is seen as not only an attack on the disgusting child abuser but also somehow an attack on the entire basis of their society and their culture. Forget teams, forget politics, forget religion, bring it ALL out now, lets have that truly independent and no doors barred enquiry that this deserves. We don't have victims here we have fucking heroes.
 
The worst part is that they have the audacity of proposing to buy out survivors silence with innocent taxpayers monies, what a bunch of crooks and cronies. That is a total insult and gross misuse of the public purse I find that extremely offensive the guilty should pay not the innocents.
They also don't get it that these victims and survivors and their relatives perhaps wouldn't want their silence monies but want real justice and genuine and sincere apologies and a recognition of the atrocities and humiliation they have had to endure, but the people who offer this buy out could never comprehend that.
 
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