Celtic to be sued in the US over abuse(The Sun)

squaddie-bear

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There is not an insurance company on this planet that would pay a single penny over all this.

Celtic will have to take a company to court to try and get them to pay/cover any compensation and they will get eviscerated by the insurance companies lawyers.
 

Bobafett Bear

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The abuse the Gray family have been through has only made them stronger,folk from England now and other avenue’s are opening behind the scene’s.

And this is not about compensation for them as I always said,they want more than an apology,like others a publicly enquiry should be the bare minimum required.
 

Robbie Wilson

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The abuse the Gray family have been through has only made them stronger,folk from England now and other avenue’s are opening behind the scene’s.

And this is not about compensation for them as I always said,they want more than an apology,like others a publicly enquiry should be the bare minimum required.
Surely such an open enquiry can only happen post all cases & compo concluded??!
 

Bobafett Bear

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Surely such an open enquiry can only happen post all cases & compo concluded??!
Of course,other survivors may not want that,I can’t speak for others who’s may well want compensated and rightly so they should be,I know the Grays are not motivated by financial gain,they want accountability and a public enquiry and lessons learned on this so it never happens again to any children.
 

Robbie Wilson

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Of course,other survivors may not want that,I can’t speak for others who’s may well want compensated and rightly so they should be,I know the Grays are not motivated by financial gain,they want accountability and a public enquiry and lessons learned on this so it never happens again to any children.
Here's hoping they get everything they want and that rancid institution is closed down for ever!
 

Goggs21

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The abuse the Gray family have been through has only made them stronger,folk from England now and other avenue’s are opening behind the scene’s.

And this is not about compensation for them as I always said,they want more than an apology,like others a publicly enquiry should be the bare minimum required.
My heart goes out to the poor souls who have suffered both mentally and physically at the hands of these predators, but any public enquiry into this has to be overseen by people outside of Scotland
This country has had 3 to 4 decades to sort this disgusting catalogue of events out and has done nothing, it would be totally unjust to put the victims through proceedings in a country where bias has been shown to the perpetrators by the very fact of silence
The media, the politicians and the football authorities in this country are complicit by their lack of action, they are in effect condoning what happened
Please don’t give me the gash of they can’t comment on ongoing cases as this should all have been brought to court a long time ago, a very long time ago, as everybody knew what had went on
It has taken the cases in England for it to be even brought up again
Scotland has become a third world country
 

No Money No Problems

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I just have this horrible feeling that nothing will come of all of these beasts being found guilty whilst working for them.

The media and politicians don't want to touch this with a barge pole and I think they are hoping it'll just be more they have to sweep under the carpet.
 

Brant Hurley

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I'm only saying this as they haven't spent much since this raised its ugly head.
If it goes stateside they are in serious trouble of that I have no doubt.
What's your gut feeling about it been raised on the other side of the pond mate??
Others have expressed the same view; for a 'cash-rich' club, their lack of spend is conspicuous. If a US attorney takes this on, it'll cost CFC a small fortune in money & prestige, win or lose.
 

JohnBrownsboot

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I just have this horrible feeling that nothing will come of all of these beasts being found guilty whilst working for them.

The media and politicians don't want to touch this with a barge pole and I think they are hoping it'll just be more they have to sweep under the carpet.
Aye only in Scotland is it punishable not to pay your taxes but being involved in multiple counts of child abuse is just covered up. Says a lot about the state of our country.
 

brand69

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Hugh Stevenson the referee who abused kids in and around Paisley was employed by the SFA. They have, currently, legal action against them. They are hardly in any position to punish St. Pats fc. They might be to busy fighting their own battle.
 

BlueHaze

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A football club started by a Roman Catholic priest caught up in a child abuse scandal it's ignored and covered up,Who'd of thought it wouldn't surprise me if the bold Walfred set the tone for future generations,A club like no other From 1888 bigotry and abuse.
 

Hateleysheid

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Hugh Stevenson the referee who abused kids in and around Paisley was employed by the SFA. They have, currently, legal action against them. They are hardly in any position to punish St. Pats fc. They might be to busy fighting their own battle.
They will probably end up with having to deal with other cases. What happens to a governing body that brings the game into disrepute?
 

tobeornottobe

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Hugh Stevenson the referee who abused kids in and around Paisley was employed by the SFA. They have, currently, legal action against them. They are hardly in any position to punish St. Pats fc. They might be to busy fighting their own battle.
Not only in Paisley he was involved with Eastercraigs in Dennistoun for almost 20 years.
 

brand69

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They will probably end up with having to deal with other cases. What happens to a governing body that brings the game into disrepute?
That’s a very good question my friend. Normally it would go higher. Government for example but SNP controlled Scotland will do nothing.
 

Der Berliner

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16 pages ... have we anyone or any link from the US that sheds some official light / interest (as reported) on this?
 

Wilkinsvolley

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Was it not a payment of £250k per year to The Tophy Centre for 4 years after Torbett went to jail rather than a one-off payment?

That’s an incredible number of those wee plastic football trophies.
Back in the 80s I assume a plastic engraved trophy would cost about £5 buying in bulk. 50k trophies and pendants is a lot of trinkets per year.
 

sammysun

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I don't know how this will be resolved, one part of me say's they will get away with this, and then I say it is too far gone for the powers that be to ignore all this, then I think of the kiddy on talking shop over in Edinburgh, and I could cry, wee nicola won't even speak about the shit hole she has in Govanhill, never mind this bomb, god help these poor victims, in all this.
 

FourMenHadADream

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You're spot-on, Grommitt. CFC may not have told their broker about the kids tour, or not elected to buy USA cover. Let's hope not.
On the other hand, if they did have cover, surely that blows the "separate entity" tack out of the water. Why would a club with a biscuit tin mentality take cover out for something they were not responsible for? They could never have been considered philanthropists.

As has often been said in investigations, follow the money. Where was CBC funded from, where did they get the money to go on tours, buy strips, pay their paedophile staff?
 

Brant Hurley

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The "cover up' post dates the occurrence(s) but would the cover up not be akin to nondisclosure and therefore invalidate the cover?
The duty to disclose arises at renewal, not 'occurences'. Hence, I said: '& won't vitiate cover alone'.
As previously, CFC may have other coverage issues to overcome, viz the Claims Reporting Condition.
 
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Brant Hurley

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On the other hand, if they did have cover, surely that blows the "separate entity" tack out of the water. Why would a club with a biscuit tin mentality take cover out for something they were not responsible for? They could never have been considered philanthropists.

As has often been said in investigations, follow the money. Where was CBC funded from, where did they get the money to go on tours, buy strips, pay their paedophile staff?
Wholly agree, FMHAD. IMHO the 'seperate entity' defence is likely to fail a vicarious libility test.
 
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