Celtics Annual Results - Shareholdings

Regarding people questioning the amount they are getting for transfers. These are year end accounts and only show money received that year.
Regardless of the total amount a frimpong goes for it will be paid over 2/3 years like most transfers.
 
Regarding people questioning the amount they are getting for transfers. These are year end accounts and only show money received that year.
Regardless of the total amount a frimpong goes for it will be paid over 2/3 years like most transfers.

Are you saying part of Tierney's transfers would have also been in the accounts released?
 
Can you clarify @Crouchy, I take this comment as meaning they have circa £16m in cash AFTER accounting for any bank loans. If that's the case then it is a healthy position. Bold highlighting is mine. Their fans are raging about the club hoarding their cash instead of spending it on players LOL.

  • Year-end cash net of bank borrowings of £16.6m (2020: £18.2m)
Is that not just their ST money?
 
The money they took in from transfers includes agents fees, wages in some cases, sell on fees to previous clubs. They are full of shit. £11.5m loss is not bad considering, but the money they’ve spent and the players they have should be a concern for them and they’ve spent a lot on shite and they are still shite!
Are people still buying this nonsense of their fees including wages, it's a very weird FF thing and also total bollocks.
 
Regarding people questioning the amount they are getting for transfers. These are year end accounts and only show money received that year.
Regardless of the total amount a frimpong goes for it will be paid over 2/3 years like most transfers.

That door swings both ways. It would also mean the amount listed in the accounts would include historic transfer fees. Either way none of it adds up. Im sure that wont shock anyone with half a brain though.
 
Regarding people questioning the amount they are getting for transfers. These are year end accounts and only show money received that year.
Regardless of the total amount a frimpong goes for it will be paid over 2/3 years like most transfers.
2020 account of celtic say they had 24.2million gain on player sales.

Why can that be if like many on here say its paid bit / part.

who else did they sell in 2020?
 
Since 2010, they have had cumulative revenue of 816m. How much have they in the bank?

Also, in the years we were out the league, their average revenue was around 60m. Since we have been back, it has averaged around 81m (includes "covid hit" season) so by their own words, this average would have been higher. "We are not half of anything".........

They are all experts on our numbers but maybe they should be looking a bit closer to home.
Would be nice to get a summary of UEFA revenue they hoovered from 2012 onwards using our coefficient points to do it - whilst having us kicked out the league for ‘cheating us fur years’.

Just look at them now.
 
Regarding people questioning the amount they are getting for transfers. These are year end accounts and only show money received that year.
Regardless of the total amount a frimpong goes for it will be paid over 2/3 years like most transfers.

Pretty sure the fee’s received are up until 30th of June.
 
On another note, delighted to see Anton McElhone join them as fitness coach. Bradford City have a forum called bantamtalk, go there and ask anyone what the players fitness was like under Hopkin. ha ha. This is glorious. Lose a fitness coach to RB Leipzig and replace his with a Bradford/Morton reject.
 
CHAIRMAN’S STATEMENT These results for the year ended 30 June 2021 show that revenue fell to £60.8m (2020: £70.2m) and we recorded a loss before tax of £11.5m (2020: £0.1m profit before tax). This was driven by revenue attrition and significantly lower gains on player trading, compared to the prior financial year. In the face of this adverse swing in financial performance, we are satisfied that we took sufficient and appropriate steps to mitigate the losses and control costs in the business. Our year end cash, net of bank borrowings, was £16.6m (2020: £18.2m). This gave us a base to invest in the summer transfer window as discussed further below.

The persisting trading restrictions from Covid-19 translated into lost earnings and, taking account of the seasonality in our trading, this was the key factor in the widening of our losses in the second half of the financial year. Conditions have improved markedly since the year end and we were delighted to welcome our fans back in July 2021. Although our stadium has been operating at near full capacity, recently announced Scottish Government restrictions on large venues will be a further challenge. Whilst we look forward with optimism to a more normal operating environment, we are mindful of the inherent risk of the pandemic continuing to affect public health. The Board was delighted to welcome new manager Ange Postecoglou to the Club in June 2021.

Ange is a modern, progressive coach with exciting, attacking football as his philosophy. He has received a host of prestigious coaching accolades, including being named as Australia’s PFA Manager of the decade in 2015. He has been well received by the media and our supporters. Over the transfer window, post year end, we successfully accomplished a major overhaul of our playing squad. At the season end, we returned a number of loan players that had amplified our squad. Then we invested significant sums in the registrations of Liam Shaw, Osaze Urhoghide, Liel Abada, Carl Starflet, Kyogo Furuhashi, James McCarthy, Joe Hart, Josip Juranovic, Liam Scales, Georgios Giakoumakis plus the loan signings of Filipe Jota and Cameron Carter-Vickers. And we achieved good value from the transfer out of a number of players, notably, Kristoffer Ajer, Odsonne Eduard and Ryan Christie, who have moved on to other opportunities. Our strategy of balancing player development and player trading is fundamental to our self-sustaining business model. In particular, the disposal of the registrations of Odsonne Edouard and Kristopher Ajer demonstrates our core strength of being able to transform young talented players into seasoned professional footballers. In turn, we invest the proceeds of these transactions back into the first team squad to enable us to continue to develop our squad and to challenge for future honours. Dominic McKay, who was appointed CEO on 1st July 2021 chose to step down on 10th September for personal reasons. I thank Dom for his contribution over the summer and everyone at Celtic wishes him well for the future. Michael Nicholson, Director of Legal and Football Affairs, has been appointed to the Board as acting Chief Executive Officer. Michael carries the confidence of the Board, he is experienced in Celtic, highly regarded in football circles and is a most effective leader of our executive team.

The entire season captured in the year ended 30 June 2021 was characterised by the absence of supporters in football stadiums and the huge disruption to our operations. On behalf of the Board and everyone at the Club, I thank the Celtic support for their backing and understanding last season whilst also sharing their frustration and disappointment. I must also express my gratitude to our sponsors and partners, who were also challenged by the unique circumstances. As we progress through the current season, our objective is to work with the authorities to ensure that we can continue to operate in a safe manner and in a way that facilitates our players being able to give their best and our supporters being able to attend matches at full capacity. We look forward to the season ahead with measured confidence in both our footballing prospects and the robustness of our business model. Celtic PLC is directed by a Board of individuals with demonstrable experience both of Celtic and wider business, its operations are managed by an executive team of talented specialists led by our Chief Executive and the executive is supported by a dedicated cast of colleagues who have worked tirelessly for the Club over this most difficult financial year. I thank them all for everything that has been achieved. Celtic is in good hands. Ian P Bankier, Chairman 20 September 2021
Kelly syndrome

He seems to have forgotten the child abuse cases pending as well
 
Regarding people questioning the amount they are getting for transfers. These are year end accounts and only show money received that year.
Regardless of the total amount a frimpong goes for it will be paid over 2/3 years like most transfers.
That's incorrect. The total fee would be recognised as income, with the unpaid amount going into debtors.
 
Regardless of everything else, I find it increasingly difficult to believe that Bayer Leverkusen would pay anywhere near £11m for Frimpong.
I think it looks increasingly likely they did not. Although it also looks like the 3.5m or whatever it was, reported out of Germany, was too far the other way.

I would have said 3.5m looked about right, but it seems like they did a fair bit better than that. As the gain on the registrations of Elhamed and Klimala won’t have made up much of that 9mil figure.
 
On another note, delighted to see Anton McElhone join them as fitness coach. Bradford City have a forum called bantamtalk, go there and ask anyone what the players fitness was like under Hopkin. ha ha. This is glorious. Lose a fitness coach to RB Leipzig and replace his with a Bradford/Morton reject.
So he’s not former Spurs fitness guru or whatever he was reported as then really?B-D








I’m not denying he was at Spurs at some point, just looks more like typical media turd polishing.
 
I read most of this column of Celtic management or mismanagement. Why are we bothered. We should by this time realise that they have very fertile imagination.What ever they say or publish should be treated as tales from paradise.
 
There are suggestions that the previous contract they had included a large bonus if the won the league every year of the deal. Hence the spfl scrambling to declare the league at the first opportunity
And a huge one for 10 I think. If there had been any chance of them being given that title they’d have got it. Remember the Ross County manager mentioned something in a press conference and Doncaster was ready to close the season based on it.
 
They’ve got more than 16m in the bank where we rely on directors loans to keep the lights on.

This seasons league title is vital. We must win the league.
They had around £50M set aside for potential legal 'expenses' last year did they not?
 
Kouassi sold to Genk 1 Jul 2020. Somewhere in the region of €1.5m according to transfermarkt (take that with a pinch of salt too) further eats into that 9m fee that can be apportioned to Frimpong?


There are 5 other players not yet mentioned who appear to have been transferred for cash, reported undisclosed rather than free:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020–21_Celtic_F.C._season

Whilst they are unlikely to be significant fees, it further diminishes, or at least casts doubt on the likely fictitious Frimpong fee.
 
The 16m cash was in June.

since then they have signed a raft of players they have sold a few

probably got 10m left over.

so they will have say 26m to get to end of the season.

wage bill must be about 45m so just under a million a week plus operating costs say another £500,000

so likely burn through all cash by january

Still can’t believe they had 20m merchandise sales

hopefully we are getting g close to those numbers now with bisgrove
 
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The 16m cash was in June.

since then they have signed a raft of players they have sold a few

probably got 10m left over.

so they will have say 26m to get to end of the season.

wage bill must be about 45m so just under a million a month plus operating costs say another £500,000

so likely still have 10m by the end of the season.
Still can’t believe they had 20m merchandise sales

hopefully we are getting g close to those numbers now with bisgrove

I still say that their books need looked over by forensic accountants, considering Durty Dermot's notorious penchant for using his businesses as money laundering enterprises.

 
The issue of payment schedules has come up a few times in this thread. Happy to stand corrected if any of the following is wrong, but my understanding of the accounting treatment is:

  • Gain (or loss) on a player sale is the difference between the current contract valuation and the net amount arising from the guaranteed components of the sale minus any offset such as sell-on clauses owed to previous clubs. It does not matter if those guaranteed payments are spread over time, its counted as one sum. Any non-guaranteed components (a sell on fee from the new club, appearance related fees, etc.) are not recognized at this time.
  • The valuation of the contract at the time of sale is the cost to acquire the contract (includes bonuses and agent fees) plus any conditional payments that have occurred (appearance fees etc), minus any amortizations from previous years, spread over the remaining length of the contract.
  • All gains and losses for the financial year are added up and a final gain/loss calculated.

Because of this complexity, its pretty hard to nail down the actual sale prices of multiple players recorded in this financial year.

Example: Player costs 8m including all fees, signs a four year deal. The amortization schedule starts at 2m per year. Let's say there is an appearance bonus that triggers in the second year of 1m. At the end of the first year, 2m is amortized and 6m remains. At the end of the second year, 2.3m is amortized and 4.7m remains (remember that the 1m appearance fee was triggered so we are spreading 7m over three years instead of 6m over three years). At the end of the third year, 2.3m remains. If the player is sold for 10m at that point, a gain of 7.7m is recognized.
 
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The issue of payment schedules has come up a few times in this thread. Happy to stand corrected if any of the following is wrong, but my understanding of the accounting treatment is:

  • Gain (or loss) on a player sale is the difference between the current contract valuation and the net amount arising from the guaranteed components of the sale minus any offset such as sell-on clauses owed to previous clubs. It does not matter if those guaranteed payments are spread over time, its counted as one sum. Any non-guaranteed components (a sell on fee from the new club, appearance related fees, etc.) are not recognized at this time.
  • The valuation of the contract at the time of sale is the cost to acquire the contract (includes bonuses and agent fees) plus any conditional payments that have occurred (appearance fees etc), minus any amortizations from previous years, spread over the remaining length of the contract.
  • All gains and losses for the financial year are added up and a final gain/loss calculated.

Because of this complexity, its pretty hard to nail down the actual sale prices of multiple players recorded in this financial year.

Example: Player costs 8m including all fees, signs a four year deal. Assume he is sold halfway through his contract. The amortization schedule starts at 2m per year. Let's say there is an appearance bonus that triggers in the second year of 1m. At the end of the first year, 2m is amortized and 6m remains. At the end of the second year, 2.3m is amortized and 4.7m remains (remember that the 1m appearance fee was triggered so we are spreading 7m over three years instead of 6m over three years). At the end of the third year, 2.3m remains. If the player is sold for 10m at that point, a gain of 7.7m is recognized.
Should be made a sticky when accounts are published.
 
It is, an incredible piece of business from them tbh. Papered over a £25m hole in the accounts at the time too…

Was an incredible piece of advertising by sky sports. Would like to have seen their commission for 2 days wall to wall coverage.
 
The issue of payment schedules has come up a few times in this thread. Happy to stand corrected if any of the following is wrong, but my understanding of the accounting treatment is:

  • Gain (or loss) on a player sale is the difference between the current contract valuation and the net amount arising from the guaranteed components of the sale minus any offset such as sell-on clauses owed to previous clubs. It does not matter if those guaranteed payments are spread over time, its counted as one sum. Any non-guaranteed components (a sell on fee from the new club, appearance related fees, etc.) are not recognized at this time.
  • The valuation of the contract at the time of sale is the cost to acquire the contract (includes bonuses and agent fees) plus any conditional payments that have occurred (appearance fees etc), minus any amortizations from previous years, spread over the remaining length of the contract.
  • All gains and losses for the financial year are added up and a final gain/loss calculated.

Because of this complexity, its pretty hard to nail down the actual sale prices of multiple players recorded in this financial year.

Example: Player costs 8m including all fees, signs a four year deal. The amortization schedule starts at 2m per year. Let's say there is an appearance bonus that triggers in the second year of 1m. At the end of the first year, 2m is amortized and 6m remains. At the end of the second year, 2.3m is amortized and 4.7m remains (remember that the 1m appearance fee was triggered so we are spreading 7m over three years instead of 6m over three years). At the end of the third year, 2.3m remains. If the player is sold for 10m at that point, a gain of 7.7m is recognized.
Thanks for explaining a complicated subject
 
Reported in their accounts or in the press mate?
Leverkusen didn't say anything, neither did Celtic, it was all the media.

People aren't saying Celtic are false accounting, they're saying they push fee's higher in the media to appease fans and give the impression they always get a good deal, and then at times, like Tierney, they do.
Ok i thought people were saying celtic were claiming they got £11.5M for JF but people were saying they didn’t get that amount. So if celtic had claimed in their accounts they got 11.5 yet didn’t then thats false accounting.
However, just about every news source i can find in the UK and Europe also claims £11.5M apart from one journo So some have to be getting this figure from the clubs.
 
The issue of payment schedules has come up a few times in this thread. Happy to stand corrected if any of the following is wrong, but my understanding of the accounting treatment is:

  • Gain (or loss) on a player sale is the difference between the current contract valuation and the net amount arising from the guaranteed components of the sale minus any offset such as sell-on clauses owed to previous clubs. It does not matter if those guaranteed payments are spread over time, its counted as one sum. Any non-guaranteed components (a sell on fee from the new club, appearance related fees, etc.) are not recognized at this time.
  • The valuation of the contract at the time of sale is the cost to acquire the contract (includes bonuses and agent fees) plus any conditional payments that have occurred (appearance fees etc), minus any amortizations from previous years, spread over the remaining length of the contract.
  • All gains and losses for the financial year are added up and a final gain/loss calculated.

Because of this complexity, its pretty hard to nail down the actual sale prices of multiple players recorded in this financial year.

Example: Player costs 8m including all fees, signs a four year deal. The amortization schedule starts at 2m per year. Let's say there is an appearance bonus that triggers in the second year of 1m. At the end of the first year, 2m is amortized and 6m remains. At the end of the second year, 2.3m is amortized and 4.7m remains (remember that the 1m appearance fee was triggered so we are spreading 7m over three years instead of 6m over three years). At the end of the third year, 2.3m remains. If the player is sold for 10m at that point, a gain of 7.7m is recognized.
Appreciate you doing what I couldn’t be arsed to.

These threads are infuriating to read if you have any sort of accounting background because 99% of the posts are simply wrong - but it doesn’t stop punters with zero understanding of the accounting treatment wading in with their views. Guess it sums up internet opinions on most topics to be fair.

If there’s one thing people need to understand before discussing - cash and profit are NOT the same.
 
Appreciate you doing what I couldn’t be arsed to.

These threads are infuriating to read if you have any sort of accounting background because 99% of the posts are simply wrong - but it doesn’t stop punters with zero understanding of the accounting treatment wading in with their views. Guess it sums up internet opinions on most topics to be fair.

If there’s one thing people need to understand before discussing - cash and profit are NOT the same.
I agree. Probably should have a thread where accountants only can post and non accountants can only ask questions!!
 
Ok i thought people were saying celtic were claiming they got £11.5M for JF but people were saying they didn’t get that amount. So if celtic had claimed in their accounts they got 11.5 yet didn’t then thats false accounting.
However, just about every news source i can find in the UK and Europe also claims £11.5M apart from one journo So some have to be getting this figure from the clubs.
So they are guilty of talking pish to make themselves look better than they are but not of putting in their accounts, which is as predictable as the day is long.
 
The amounts in the accounts are based on the accruals concept, not cash.
 
The frimpong transfer is one (of their many) that raises questions.

I done some digging a few months ago and his situation is intriguing to say the least.
  • Appointed a new agent before leaving celtic.
  • A company only incorporated on 22/10/20 just months before his transfer to BL 27/01/21.
  • A company with a client list of one. Himself. [https://www.prolificsportsgroup.co.uk/]
  • A company owned entirely by a dutch national living in England with a single £1 share.
  • He being the sole director. (Would love to see the list of employees) [https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12969029]
  • Company registered office is a bog standard residential house in Manchester. (Can be looked up on google street view - hilarious).
  • The owner of this 'sports management agency' with one client has one single other directorship in one other company. One set up just months previously to 'his' on 31/05/20. [https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13428680]
  • That company, JF30 Ltd, is completely owned by none other than his one and only 'client', who holds all of the 100 £1 shares.
  • Jeremie Frimpong and his 'agent' are the only two directors.
So. Man city group sell celtic an asset for £342k on 02/09/2019. Celtic then sell on that asset 16 months later for £9.9m (a 2895% increase), with £3m going to Man city group. Despite said asset not demonstrating anywhere near that kind of value in a relatively poor league. The asset himself very likely paying himself agency fees etc. via a suspicious shell sports agency that looks to have been created especially for this very event. (I'm sure he came up with this all by himself :rolleyes:).

Now, far be it for me and my unqualified eye to suggest any wrong doing or illegality here. However, I think it's an interesting insight into the sort of business dealings going on over there and the type of deals being struck that have prevented them from sustaining some pretty serious financial losses over the past few years.
 
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Frimpong was officially an undisclosed fee. The media made up whatever the valuation was to keep the tims happy. Those figures show they did not get the 9m up front that was quoted before the possible add ons.

I must add. It will be interesting to see the sales figure this time next year with the supposed figures for the star players that left in the recent window.

You cannot determine what they did / didn’t get for Fri pong based on the figure quoted in their statement.
 
The frimpong transfer is one (of their many) that raises questions.

I done some digging a few months ago and his situation is intriguing to say the least.
  • Appointed a new agent before leaving celtic.
  • A company only incorporated on 22/10/20 just months before his transfer to BL 27/01/21.
  • A company with a client list of one. Himself. [https://www.prolificsportsgroup.co.uk/]
  • A company owned entirely by a dutch national living in England with a single £1 share.
  • He being the sole director. (Would love to see the list of employees) [https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12969029]
  • Company registered office is a bog standard residential house in Manchester. (Can be looked up on google street view - hilarious).
  • The owner of this 'sports management agency' with one client has one single other directorship in one other company. One set up just months previously to 'his' on 31/05/21. [https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13428680]
  • That company, JF30 Ltd, is completely owned by none other than his one and only 'client', who holds all of the 100 £1 shares.
  • Jeremie Frimpong and his 'agent' are the only two directors.
So. Man city group sell celtic an asset for £342k on 02/09/2019. Celtic then sell on that asset 16 months later for £9.9m (a 2895% increase), with £3m going to Man city group. Despite said asset not demonstrating anywhere near that kind of value in a relatively poor league. The asset himself very likely paying himself agency fees etc. via a suspicious shell sports agency that looks to have been created especially for this very event. (I'm sure he came up with this all by himself :rolleyes:).

Now, far be it for me and my unqualified eye to suggest any wrong doing or illegality here. However, I think it's an interesting insight into the sort of business dealings going on over there and the type of deals being struck that have prevented them from sustaining some pretty serious financial losses over the past few years.

Yeah, had a look on Companies House.

Is that normal?

An agent fee gets invested back into a company that the player himself is a Director of?
 
The issue of payment schedules has come up a few times in this thread. Happy to stand corrected if any of the following is wrong, but my understanding of the accounting treatment is:

  • Gain (or loss) on a player sale is the difference between the current contract valuation and the net amount arising from the guaranteed components of the sale minus any offset such as sell-on clauses owed to previous clubs. It does not matter if those guaranteed payments are spread over time, its counted as one sum. Any non-guaranteed components (a sell on fee from the new club, appearance related fees, etc.) are not recognized at this time.
  • The valuation of the contract at the time of sale is the cost to acquire the contract (includes bonuses and agent fees) plus any conditional payments that have occurred (appearance fees etc), minus any amortizations from previous years, spread over the remaining length of the contract.
  • All gains and losses for the financial year are added up and a final gain/loss calculated.

Because of this complexity, its pretty hard to nail down the actual sale prices of multiple players recorded in this financial year.

Example: Player costs 8m including all fees, signs a four year deal. The amortization schedule starts at 2m per year. Let's say there is an appearance bonus that triggers in the second year of 1m. At the end of the first year, 2m is amortized and 6m remains. At the end of the second year, 2.3m is amortized and 4.7m remains (remember that the 1m appearance fee was triggered so we are spreading 7m over three years instead of 6m over three years). At the end of the third year, 2.3m remains. If the player is sold for 10m at that point, a gain of 7.7m is recognized.
Glad someone else went into the detail, it's very complex with multiple players and amortisation, different ways of paying for a player and different ways of receiving money for a player, contract extensions, early sales, book values, Bosmans etc.
The figure in the Accounts is indecipherable, Its not sales, its not cash received. It's a PROFIT on disposal of assets £9.435M You cannot know the ins and outs of it, it's a cumulative figure. There could be 10 players involved with 9 small losses and one big profit, showing an overall profit. It's cumulative for all player transactions.
Here's a short video explaining amortisation for those interested.
Any questions ask @New York Bear
 
The frimpong transfer is one (of their many) that raises questions.

I done some digging a few months ago and his situation is intriguing to say the least.
  • Appointed a new agent before leaving celtic.
  • A company only incorporated on 22/10/20 just months before his transfer to BL 27/01/21.
  • A company with a client list of one. Himself. [https://www.prolificsportsgroup.co.uk/]
  • A company owned entirely by a dutch national living in England with a single £1 share.
  • He being the sole director. (Would love to see the list of employees) [https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/12969029]
  • Company registered office is a bog standard residential house in Manchester. (Can be looked up on google street view - hilarious).
  • The owner of this 'sports management agency' with one client has one single other directorship in one other company. One set up just months previously to 'his' on 31/05/21. [https://find-and-update.company-information.service.gov.uk/company/13428680]
  • That company, JF30 Ltd, is completely owned by none other than his one and only 'client', who holds all of the 100 £1 shares.
  • Jeremie Frimpong and his 'agent' are the only two directors.
So. Man city group sell celtic an asset for £342k on 02/09/2019. Celtic then sell on that asset 16 months later for £9.9m (a 2895% increase), with £3m going to Man city group. Despite said asset not demonstrating anywhere near that kind of value in a relatively poor league. The asset himself very likely paying himself agency fees etc. via a suspicious shell sports agency that looks to have been created especially for this very event. (I'm sure he came up with this all by himself :rolleyes:).

Now, far be it for me and my unqualified eye to suggest any wrong doing or illegality here. However, I think it's an interesting insight into the sort of business dealings going on over there and the type of deals being struck that have prevented them from sustaining some pretty serious financial losses over the past few years.

Excellent post. Creative accountancy doesn't cover their shady dealings at the Piggery.
 
The 16m cash was in June.

since then they have signed a raft of players they have sold a few

probably got 10m left over.

so they will have say 26m to get to end of the season.

wage bill must be about 45m so just under a million a week plus operating costs say another £500,000

so likely burn through all cash by january

Still can’t believe they had 20m merchandise sales

hopefully we are getting g close to those numbers now with bisgrove
Yeah, when I saw that figure I wondered, they couldn't have included the £50 vouchers in that, could they? If they did, that would surely create a negative somewhere else in the accounts, unless the voucher scheme was funded outside of the PLC. :rolleyes:

FBS
 
Ok i thought people were saying celtic were claiming they got £11.5M for JF but people were saying they didn’t get that amount. So if celtic had claimed in their accounts they got 11.5 yet didn’t then thats false accounting.
However, just about every news source i can find in the UK and Europe also claims £11.5M apart from one journo So some have to be getting this figure from the clubs.
Or you leak a number, true or otherwise and it gets reported by a source and then other outlets simply report on what's been reported.

Last week on clyde, the pundits spoke all night about how Jack Henry went for 8.5 million quid, even though he left for 3.5 million. He had a release clause in his contract. But 8.5m just sounds better.
 
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